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Poll: Which modern Achaean House is the best and why?

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  • LiyaneLiyane Member Posts: 103 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Watchman said:
    Cyrene could march on other cities in an attempt to unify them under the beige banner of neutrality.

    AodfionnBronislav
  • ExxiaExxia Member Posts: 257 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Nazihk said:
    Shirszae said:
    Right now the Shield is pretty useless since no one raids Cyrene. I mean, sure, combat House, but as far as purpose go, its pretty sad. I really wish there was something more to it. Or more raids happening in Cyrene. Please raid Cyrene more.
    Sorry, no raiding Cyrene for me. It has the best shops and I don't want to pull an @Exxia and end up dropping 45k on potash.
    Shit, you don't do anything in raids but spam your bash attack, so OF COURSE no raiding even a bunch of midbie noncoms in Cyrene for you.

  • KiskanKiskan Member Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited December 2016
    This was a public paste someone had put up, but for whatever reason, pastebin stopped indexing it shortly thereafter (and seems to be having trouble indexing it period), so I will drop it here, because I have less investment over here and I guess it's easier for me to just do.  It's actually one of the reasons I agree so heartily with Skye's post.  It took me a long, long, long time to better understand how certain things about the games work because frankly, I was ridiculously naive.  Anyway, sometimes what seems totally reasonable (and actually IS totally reasonable, like wanting the thrill of the occasional raid) might come with a hell of a lot of strings attached (or uncanned worms).  

    Being raided (and raiding) can be a lot of fun, and efforts have been made to allow the defenders to sort of "turn off" the raid if they really want to and need to.  And it IS the right approach because the best way to protect players from excessive punishment in an IRE game really does seem to be to mechanically limit the damage others can do (which allows them to leave the actual rules fairly fluid).  But for whatever reason (I'd put at least some of it down to social engineering maybe?), people do seem to have a hell of a time pushing the flush button, even when they're really really really done.  So there's that.

    I found this log right after that Mhaldor raid people were fairly unhappy about and it seems like a conversation that probably did really happen.  The reason it's special, is because you don't often get this kind of candor from anyone who's halfway smart about being a jerk.  I don't really know Jhui, but I get the impression that he is probably mostly very, very very smart about being a jerk.  So when someone does show you how they think, listen.  And I see two things he's thinking 1)  griefing is pretty darned acceptable right up to the line it doesn't get me shrubbed 2)  Boy, you guys are suckers

    But he's just one dude.  It's really not about him.  It's about wherever that threshold of jackassery is.  It might be a lot higher than you thought it was, and a lot higher than you are prepared for.  

    http://pastebin.com/3362dQ8j
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 5,009 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    They originally came in cause I had the audacity to touch one of their relics :( how dare I!

  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,010 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Looks like a short clip of a fairly extended conversation from an OOC clan we're in, yes.

    Also while I think the off-rail conversation is interesting to hash out, I thought this thread was more about what modern Houses you like and why, rather than a discussion of raids, their role in the cities and the consequences of dealing with them!
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
    AereidhnaQirua
  • JhuiJhui Member Posts: 1,958 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Cooper said:
    They originally came in cause I had the audacity to touch one of their relics :( how dare I!
    You're learning 
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    Bann
  • QiruaQirua Member Posts: 18
    Melodie said:
    Looks like a short clip of a fairly extended conversation from an OOC clan we're in, yes.

    Also while I think the off-rail conversation is interesting to hash out, I thought this thread was more about what modern Houses you like and why, rather than a discussion of raids, their role in the cities and the consequences of dealing with them!
    Yes, I want to know why people like the Targossian houses so much.
    Liyane
  • AodfionnAodfionn Seattle, WAMember Posts: 1,216 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I joined the Harbingers because @Draqoom tried to pull the "WE ARE SO DARK AND MYSTERIOUS" card when I tried to join the Luminai. Have never regretted it. 

    I like the Harbingers; outside of the Occultists or Naga, they're probably my favorite house. It's very much like the Sylvans were (which I loved), just without all the clique-ish bullshit and uselessness (which I hated). They have a small but awesome group of active people (Torinn/Elipise/Aralaya/Daeir/Carmell/Greys/Micaelis/Reymi/others) who do a lot of work to help make the game more fun for other people, which is rad. 

    We also get the loosest rules on fraternization (in practice), which means we also get the opportunity to RP with people from other factions on a fairly regular basis beyond just raiding them. I like that. 
    Aurora says, "Are you drunk, Aodfionn?" 

    (The Targossian Academy): Halos says, "Go on! I need to feel the wind in my hair!"


    AereidhnaQiruaTalamondAilea
  • KafzielKafziel Member Posts: 658 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Ahmet said:
    Cyrenians are also restricted by law from participating in defense elsewhere (which I think is a little silly myself, but maybe that's just me).
    Were you not Cyrenian all the times Cyrene got raided because Exelethril and Shirszae defended Eleusis?
  • ExelethrilExelethril Member Posts: 3,350 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited December 2016
    Being a former Cyrenian Duke/high ranking knight wasn't fun for keeping a low profile while defending the "then" underdogs, got lots of PK in though

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  • BannBann Member Posts: 391 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    @Kiskan - I don't really see Jhui doing anything bad, except being a dick to people who are usually dicks. Nobody's forcing those guys to come defend totems. That's a choice THEY made. Could've just gagged that shit and kept on keeping on doing whatever it was they were doing.

  • AegothAegoth Member Posts: 2,670 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Bann said:
    @Kiskan - I don't really see Jhui doing anything bad, except being a dick to people who are usually dicks. Nobody's forcing those guys to come defend totems. That's a choice THEY made. Could've just gagged that shit and kept on keeping on doing whatever it was they were doing.
    Uhh, we did just that. But then you went and decided to guard bash because you guys threw a hissy fit that we were ignoring you. I mean, make up whatever imaginary excuses you want, but you guys were being basic bitches
    MelodieYsela
  • KiskanKiskan Member Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I'm still not actually sure why people aren't using the "flush" button either (i.e. at some point, you just refuse to engage).  But they know that better than I do.  People say the guard costs shouldn't be too crushing (which I think is probably true, actually), and in a game like Achaea, some favour hound is almost always happy to fix totems, so that leaves... I really am not sure.  It's something people who have been stuck defending a lot more than they'd like could probably answer if they thought about it.   

    But it's the end that gets my attention even more than what was apparently the Director's Cut of raiding.  It's like, not only am I going to raid as long as I damned well please (which I always do, by the sound of it), but isn't it funny how these idiots keep saying what a great guy I am.

    The end, more than anything, is the sort of mask slip you'll rarely see from someone who is really really really good at getting away with murder.
  • JhuiJhui Member Posts: 1,958 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    When you start to overanalayze the game like this it becomes a lot less fun. Let us griefers be griefers and you non coms bash up the gold to restore your guards
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    Atalkez
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,276 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I attest that if fledgling Targossas survived the unmitigated hell of the peak strength A-Team without issue, everyone else can too.

    I don't see what the issue is.
    Bann
  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,010 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    We already let that shit go, yo. Y'all are the ones holding on and bringing it back up again.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
  • FarrahFarrah Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 2,337 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited December 2016
    Melodie said:
    We already let that shit go, yo. Y'all are the ones holding on and bringing it back up again.

    Who is this "Y'all" even referring to? As far as I know, the only one bringing it up is Kiskan, who doesn't actually play this game (afaik).
    Bann
  • KiskanKiskan Member Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Farrah said:
    Melodie said:
    We already let that shit go, yo. Y'all are the ones holding on and bringing it back up again.

    Who is this "Y'all" even referring to? As far as I know, the only one bringing it up is Kiskan, who doesn't actually play this game (afaik).
    I was mainly footstomping Skye's point one page back.  I was sort of afraid people would miss that somehow and think it just came up out of the blue even though I referred to her post in mine and it is just one page ago :(
  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,010 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Farrah said:
    Melodie said:
    We already let that shit go, yo. Y'all are the ones holding on and bringing it back up again.

    Who is this "Y'all" even referring to? As far as I know, the only one bringing it up is Kiskan, who doesn't actually play this game (afaik).
    Mostly Kiskan and Daeir.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
    Bann
  • SenoskeSenoske Member Posts: 162 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    None! Because Houses aren't fun imo.

    #bringguildsback
    ShaydeSirrionTruaxPharial
  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaMember Posts: 2,377 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Because of the agreement between the three forestal guilds (IIRC) I believe this meant she was also barred from joining the Druids or Sylvans - not 100% sure on that part though, maybe my memory is inventing it.
    This was a real thing.
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
    Blujixapug
  • LiyaneLiyane Member Posts: 103 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Kafziel said:
    I'm pretty sure that's verbatim stolen from sentinel guild novice test
     It was Against The Rules to summon any animals as a novice, even though it was one of your skills and what kind of human with a pulse could resist summoning a cute cuddly fierce animal companion in any MMO, so they were kicking her out. 
    Stuff like this was why I disliked Guilds. Can't have a falcon until X Can't have a Grove until Y. Who cares that you have the ability, we're going to restrict your usage of your class skills. If they should have been restricted to full members than they should have been the third skill not one of your two primary skills >.<
    BlujixapugSarathaiBannNataliia
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 5,009 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sena said:
    Please rank the following in order of importance: guild, family, Nature, Eleusis, Oakstone, Lupus, Gaia, the literal ton of gold you're gonna make from harvesting if you get this right. Remember, there are no wrong answers, except for every answer bar the right one and you're also wrong if you give the right answer but can't explain it well. Failure means you're permanently barred from joining the guild forever.

    And also by the way this is only the first of 150 questions that is going to take at least 5 hours of your time, and if you have to leave in the middle, you're banned forever.

    ShaydeSkyePrytheNataliia
  • NazihkNazihk Member Posts: 993 @ - Epic Achaean
    Cooper said:
    Sena said:
    Please rank the following in order of importance: guild, family, Nature, Eleusis, Oakstone, Lupus, Gaia, the literal ton of gold you're gonna make from harvesting if you get this right. Remember, there are no wrong answers, except for every answer bar the right one and you're also wrong if you give the right answer but can't explain it well. Failure means you're permanently barred from joining the guild forever.

    And also by the way this is only the first of 150 questions that is going to take at least 5 hours of your time, and if you have to leave in the middle, you're banned forever.
    And you can only get the interview after you've bashed to level 40 with novice skills, been a novice for an RL week, and written two essays and a letter of introduction.
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