Achaean Raves

Mako

Caoimhaen said:

@mako aaaaw....now I feel bad for planning your demise and being pissed off. Lol. Not sure how well it would go over with my lotus buddies. Considering you are now enemied to my house.:P I would love to be friends and take you up on that offer though...we shall see I suppose.

Sure thing @caoimhaen. yeah they enemied me for attacking yall on a Treacherous Plane. Kind of lame but i'll get over it. 

Jacen

Treacherous != no consequences, why do people think this.

Mako

just pointed out that consequence is out of spite, you dont enemy someone for attacking you on annwyn. Or you might, idk. Just like Cyrene

Eld

Mako said:

just pointed out that consequence is out of spite, you dont enemy someone for attacking you on annwyn. Or you might, idk. Just like Cyrene 

Your house doesn't have property in Annwyn. Attacking at the icon area is different from random ganking no a treacherous plane.

Mako

I see it as the same thing. Annwyn is where people hunt and may be attacked, nishantoba is somewhere where you strengthen your icon and may be attacked. There is no difference. Upon going into a treacherous plane you know the risks involved in going there. In the end it really dosent matter anyway

Iocun

The whole "treacherous plane" thing serves mainly as a warning to us, the players, that our characters may be attacked there much more liberally than elsewhere (basically, making things like "I hate your face", "horkvals must die", or "I just have a random killing urge" acceptable RP reasons for killing people there). That doesn't make those places "free-for-all" arenas though that are disconnected from the rest of the game world. Your character killing someone in Annwyn is still your character killing someone in the world of Achaea and other adventurers or organisations will react accordingly, be it by seeking revenge, be it by being scared of you in future, be it by enemying you to their organisations, or whatever.

After all, that's why you usually don't do things like killing your own city mates in Annwyn.

I fully agree that a player certainly shouldn't get upset about getting killed on a treacherous plane, but that doesn't mean that our characters can't still get upset about it.

Mako

I agree with most of that. Although, i did issue myself asking if someone can hire for being killed in Annwyn and they told me no. So seeking revenge outside of the treacherous plane is the same thing. 

"I hate your face", "horkvals must die" LOL

Katzchen

Mako said:

I agree with most of that. Although, i did issue myself asking if someone can hire for being killed in Annwyn and they told me no. So seeking revenge outside of the treacherous plane is the same thing. 

"I hate your face", "horkvals must die" LOL

Pretty sure you can try to kill them for it. Hiring is a step up from that.

Eld

Katzchen said:

Mako said:

I agree with most of that. Although, i did issue myself asking if someone can hire for being killed in Annwyn and they told me no. So seeking revenge outside of the treacherous plane is the same thing. 

"I hate your face", "horkvals must die" LOL

Pretty sure you can try to kill them for it. Hiring is a step up from that.

Not really. Hiring a mark to kill someone for you is, for all intents and purposes, the same as killing them yourself.

Jonners

Almost.. for that purpose absolutelyyou can try to hunt them down yourself. But yourself means by yourself, no group ganking.

Katzchen

Eld said:

Katzchen said:

Mako said:

I agree with most of that. Although, i did issue myself asking if someone can hire for being killed in Annwyn and they told me no. So seeking revenge outside of the treacherous plane is the same thing. 

"I hate your face", "horkvals must die" LOL

Pretty sure you can try to kill them for it. Hiring is a step up from that.

Not really. Hiring a mark to kill someone for you is, for all intents and purposes, the same as killing them yourself.

I disagree. You have to have a pretty solid reason to hire a mark. But there are a lot of other reasons you could have to kill someone yourself.

Eld

Katzchen said:

Eld said:

Katzchen said:

Mako said:

I agree with most of that. Although, i did issue myself asking if someone can hire for being killed in Annwyn and they told me no. So seeking revenge outside of the treacherous plane is the same thing. 

"I hate your face", "horkvals must die" LOL

Pretty sure you can try to kill them for it. Hiring is a step up from that.

Not really. Hiring a mark to kill someone for you is, for all intents and purposes, the same as killing them yourself.

I disagree. You have to have a pretty solid reason to hire a mark. But there are a lot of other reasons you could have to kill someone yourself.

That depends on the mark. A particular mark may certainly disagree with your reasons for wanting the person dead and refuse the contract. Or they may take contracts no questions asked. Either way, the responsibility for the death is on you, and the mark is just a tool you used to accomplish it. The only difference I see between killing someone yourself and hiring a mark to do it is that hiring potentially brings in an extra person's judgement as to whether the killing is justified.

Mako

Yeah you can hire illegally for sure, but this illegal contract will give the person reason to kill you again. Perhaps a few times

Sherazad

Ebon Fist younger members. Things are shaping up, people are improving and willing to take more responsibilities on their own. Wow, I'm still amazed at the rate these guys are improving. 

Caoimhaen

Belated rave. A couple months ago my cousin @illyose popped in to say hi. Miss you Illy. Hope to see my buddy around more. Maybe beat eachother up in the arena. Muahaha. The fourth energy is aggression which we like soooo very much.:P anyway! Yay partially dormant people popping in now and then!

Chapel

please delete this post, I dont know how -.-

Chapel

A rave to all the Mhaldorians I've had to fight since coming back from dormancy. Even though I rage all the time, I've learned so much and improved to become better than I've ever been before. Props to @Pharaus, @Eld, and @Tzond too, they gave me the technical training!

Shunsui

No idea if I've just had good timing lately or what, but if Someone out there made Targs casino move around faster/differently, Iloveyousuchthankyou

Jespar

rave: switched classes to monk, now i have some hunting to do, a city to join and a house to join!

any recomendations?

Shunsui

Hunt Annwyn, join targ, screw houses, who needs 'em

Jespar

houses are fun man, been hearing alot about the ashura lately :P sounds pretty fun and lol worthy

Shunsui

Houses -are- fun, I'm just trying to convince myself that they aren't since I'm not allowed to join any T.T

Arador

Ok, that was funny.

Spoke with Kabilan, realise it is time to head home, QQ, Realised I forgot to gave him me spare potash, Stop praying (in empty def mode now) Sense Kabilan, Speedwalk to location, Sart packing briefcase while I walk then suddenly think "Why am I seeing meteor arrows? And why is there retardation here? And why am I suddenly standing in a room full of Eleusians?"

Could not remember if I was in Dragon or Lesser so just hit Blackwind and hoped. Managed to get out while laughing at how stupid I was.

Caoimhaen

Jespar said:

rave: switched classes to monk, now i have some hunting to do, a city to join and a house to join!

any recomendations?

Black Lotus! Joooooin uuuuus.:)

Nemutaur

Jespar said:

houses are fun man, been hearing alot about the ashura lately :P sounds pretty fun and lol worthy

If you like combat then yeah, join the Ashura. It's the primary focus, although hunters are welcome.

Tesha

Like you need more people. :P Give Targossas a try if you are interested in it!

Jovolo

If you want to actually get good at combat as Monk, the obvious choice is Mhaldor. Don't fall into the Ashura artefacts+icon, or the Lotus icon trap, thinking you're a badass when you actually suck.

Mhaldor is the only place to excel your true combat ability. Sign up today, become a warrior tomorrow.

(You really dont want to join Targ though, rofl)

Caoimhaen

Jovolo said:

If you want to actually get good at combat as Monk, the obvious choice is Mhaldor. Don't fall into the Ashura artefacts+icon, or the Lotus icon trap, thinking you're a badass when you actually suck.

Mhaldor is the only place to excel your true combat ability. Sign up today, become a warrior tomorrow.

(You really dont want to join Targ though, rofl)

Okay.. You don't need to start by insulting half the houses that accept monks to make your house look better. While even if you believe it to be true, there is a way to say things and a way to keep the peace. Sometimes you don't need to say it all. I am sure you meant well in your suggestion. In fact I am not going to attempt to shoot down your house because each house is unique and special and has its own skills to offer. Its up to him to draw his own conclusions about each house by talking to the people and researching them. Anyway. I said my peace.

Tesha

I am not sure trying to trash other places in order to make yours look better is a good strategy. It looks pretty desperate.

Jarrod

If your House is good enough, it's easy to attract people. Here's an example plug:

If you're a Monk and want to get better at Monk, you should join a House where you can learn from the best Monks in Achaea.

See? Simple.