The Revelation

Melodie

Ahmet said:

Tools to get folks out of blackwind: Grove flash. Educe silver (which is only a 1/3 or 2/3 chance, I forget which). Heaven forbid someone's a serpent, or a blademaster, or a bard, or a monk, or or or or.

Unless I'm missing some mystical pyramid sigil, the tools to deal with phase are available to everyone, whereas BW/AF aren't.

You have more than that. And there's plenty of other things you can do, even if you can't pull them out, as they're much more limiting in what you can do in, unlike phase. Then you know, our shrine is in a terrible area that's easy to camp, which you guys did yesterday for two hours.

I'm not really going to go into it though - not our fault if you guys aren't actually using your noggins.

...

This must be what @Jhui feels like. Good lord.

Czanthria

Sarathai said:

Atalkez said:

Was solid dive. Only wish there was some downside to dying to denizen with essence.

This, plus the relinquishing while graced thing.

Seems like the fair thing is Avatars do not receive grace upon rez or after spending time with Ugrach and better redef and move like lightning.

Czanthria

Daeir said:

Need to remove astralform, blackwind, nirvana, refuge, grove isolation and crystalhome from Avatars as well. Pointless removing fast travel if phased travel is still a thing, just punishes the classes that don't have counters for any of these things. AF and BW are particular issues at the moment. @Makarios

I'm pretty fast and I can tell you, traveling in Phase sucks as an Avatar.  The lack of waterwalking, as well as no wormholes.  I gave it up for lent when I had 90 moves to get to where I was going.  Then got stuck in a river trying to get out and before I could swim dir, I was swept into the next room.  There might be some way I don't know of or something I've not thought of, but I'm a 'non-com' and typically rely on my wings or the mapper to get me out of a dicey situation that I don't want to be in.

Asmodron

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Dunn

Has been like this for the last day or so. The splinter falls have really decreased in frequency.

Datrius

Dunn said:

Has been like this for the last day or so. The splinter falls have really decreased in frequency.

To be honest, I'm kinda glad for it. It gives time to be involved in other aspects of Achaea and get other tasks done within the game.

Dunn

There are no other tasks.

#nihilism

Farrah

Jinsun said:

Sweetheart until you have 1k kills and are actively dueling 1 on 1. You're a noncom. Also not a single person has come to your defense. When the anti Ashtan victim hive mind leaves you hanging, you're way wrong and it's time to shut up.

Damn. Apparently I was a non-com until a couple days ago. 

Cynlael

He sure has died to a lot of "noncoms" in that case.

Farrah

My only rant about this event is that I can't experience the full scope of it because people won't let me leave the Coalition.

I want to play too, guys.

Xaden

Farrah said:

My only rant about this event is that I can't experience the full scope of it because people won't let me leave the Coalition.

I want to play too, guys.

The majority of your play time is done during peak Targ hours. 

The majority of my play time is when there's fuck all Targs about - I don't mind dying (clearly) - but a week of just getting rofl stomped will definitely get on my nerves.

It's clearly already gettin' to Proficy after three days.

Bleak

Jinsun said:

Sweetheart until you have 1k kills and are actively dueling 1 on 1. You're a noncom. Also not a single person has come to your defense. When the anti Ashtan victim hive mind leaves you hanging, you're way wrong and it's time to shut up.

Am I the only one wanting to slap this guy? No, I shouldn't... he will most likely issue me. 

Exelethril

As a casual forum observer.. if sanity were quantifiable, I wonder what the general trend would be on a graph for this event

Jinsun

@Farrah everyone knows you got well above 1k kills in achaea. To everyone whining about astralform blackwind. You literally have the entire IG world looking for about 3-4 people. You have a class ability only available to the largest current city in the game (Eleusis) and -both- of our respective shrines have easy points to camp. Also, as I said, getting into Babel's temple is not balanceless from Astral. You guys couldn't sound anymore whiny and petty given your odds and ease after the changes. 

Bleak said:

Am I the only one wanting to slap this guy? No, I shouldn't... he will most likely issue me. @Nicola @Tecton

Can someone just plaster Help Issues over this guy's announce. Specifically where it says not to discuss active issues. Hasn't been the first time with this guy, and won't be the last.

Morthif

If deliver/pilgrimage doesn't work, and grove gate doesn't work why should blackwind/Astral work?

Alrena

Morthif said:

If deliver/pilgrimage doesn't work, and grove gate doesn't work why should blackwind/Astral work?

Because Transverse and portals also do not work, and blackwind, astralform and Phase (yes, I'm including that) are different in the sense that they don't instantly move you to a safe room. Water rooms make it impossible to get past in BW or AF as well, which is what screwed me over earlier. It's really not that OP, even when you conveniently forget it's not that easy for non-Coalition people to even finish a subvert with the killteams gunning for you the moment you even touch it.

That said, I don't even care if they did make it impossible to use any of the three above, I managed just fine walking without BW. I just think the complaining about it is pretty silly, considering it's not that big an issue. Boggles my mind why Phase is magically fine too.

Jinsun

Our patron's followers are actively helping enemy cities kill our citizens and stop us from rebuilding Babel's shrine, and is demanding we not go into the Temple to kill city enemies so that they are protected. What a bizzaro world.

Kez

Well phase has a small windup, can't do it with people in the room, eyes work 100% of the time and are balanceless, and enemies can phase to track you down and attack you, whereas you can blackwind while being beaten on(even seen it happen prone) and attempts to pull you out only have a chance to work with a 5-second eq attached. But yeah, you're foiled by puddles. Too bad you don't have access to any alchemists to unflood the rooms while hailing from the pro-nature-anti-alchemy cities of mhaldor and ashtan.

Bleak

Jinsun said:

Bleak said:

Am I the only one wanting to slap this guy? No, I shouldn't... he will most likely issue me. @Nicola @Tecton

Can someone just plaster Help Issues over this guy's announce. Specifically where it says not to discuss active issues. Hasn't been the first time with this guy, and won't be the last.

I never brought up any active issue. Just said I'm afraid to slap some sense in you because you are known to lean on the issue button and cry for afministrative help when things don't go your way. Just like now. You don't like to get called out for being a bitch and you instantly tag some admins to take care of it. 

Kez

News!

- Avatars now have inate waterwalking.

- Avatars can no longer phase, astralform, or blackwind.
And more.

Jinsun

Bleak said:

Jinsun said:

Bleak said:

Am I the only one wanting to slap this guy? No, I shouldn't... he will most likely issue me. @Nicola @Tecton

Can someone just plaster Help Issues over this guy's announce. Specifically where it says not to discuss active issues. Hasn't been the first time with this guy, and won't be the last.

I never brought up any active issue. Just said I'm afraid to slap some sense in you because you are known to lean on the issue button and cry for afministrative help when things don't go your way. Just like now. You don't like to get called out for being a bitch and you instantly tag some admins to take care of it. 

Do I even have to tag anyone? Or can enough be enough of this already.

Alrena

I am happy with these changes. I'll gladly trade in blackwind for waterwalking.

Jinsun

that prism delay, tho.

Xaden

Only question left to ask: How much longer is this fucking phase gonna last?! Bored out of my fucking tree at this stage.

Kez

All the tweaking would seem to suggest it's going to be a while.

Dunn

Ayyyyyy many more fun nights to come. 

@Jhui @hirst @dalran @vender @calyn @emilea @bann @austere @jadys

Jinsun

Geez love you too... :dissapointed:

Dunn

It's the mimosas. I'm forgetting others, I'm sure. My bad, dog

Jinsun

Lol no worries 

Xaden

Was gonna day you forgot Seragorn. I guess Jinsun kinda counts too.