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  • TrevizeTrevize
    Tecton said:
    We'll be adding in per-slot racial specialisations soon!
    That's amazing.

    It may be a bit much to ask, but for those of us who chose traits based around the specs we were 'stuck with' - is there any chance of a reset there?

    Either way, thanks!
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  • LothienLothien Montréal, Québec
    Tecton said:
    We'll be adding in per-slot racial specialisations soon!
    This is, simply put, amazing of you guys. Much love. Much.
  • DunnDunn
    Looooooooove you


  • AustereAustere Tennessee
    Tecton said:
    We'll be adding in per-slot racial specialisations soon!
    This is so awesome.  My only concern is how it will work with gem if we reincarnate and then switch to our secondary class.  Will the spec reset on there or will it just convert to the new races spec.  Either is fine, just curious. 
  • TectonTecton The Garden of the Gods
    Austere said:
    Tecton said:
    We'll be adding in per-slot racial specialisations soon!
    This is so awesome.  My only concern is how it will work with gem if we reincarnate and then switch to our secondary class.  Will the spec reset on there or will it just convert to the new races spec.  Either is fine, just curious. 
    Will remain the same, but if you specced dex on your secondary, you'll stay specced dex.
  • DraekarDraekar
    Tecton said:
    We'll be adding in per-slot racial specialisations soon!
    Awesome! Now all I need is a multi-class system and someone to donate me some credits!
  • LothienLothien Montréal, Québec
    If I have a ranger's bow with shooting addon (so sylvan can use it) and just want to upgrade the bow to, say, Lupine but don't care if sylvan can use it, is that possible? Or is shooting "attached permanently" and thus requires the upgraded amounts alongside?
  • AustereAustere Tennessee
    Draekar said:
    Tecton said:
    We'll be adding in per-slot racial specialisations soon!
    Awesome! Now all I need is a multi-class system and someone to donate me some credits!
    Wsys!
  • LyrLyr
    Dunn said:
    I want to be able to view AB files of every class I can possibly multi class.the wiki ones are not reliable.

    @Tecton pls
    Or people need to update the wiki! 
  • AntoniusAntonius
    @Dunn: You can do it using GMCP, but not for abilities with non-unique names that differ across specs (I think only Weaponmastery has this problem).

    Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files

  • DunnDunn
    Do tell, please. I like to read those to sate myself while I save for my second class


  • AntoniusAntonius
    Lothien said:
    If I have a ranger's bow with shooting addon (so sylvan can use it) and just want to upgrade the bow to, say, Lupine but don't care if sylvan can use it, is that possible? Or is shooting "attached permanently" and thus requires the upgraded amounts alongside?
    I'd suggest e-mailing artefacts@achaea.com to find out. If it is possible you'd probably have to e-mail them anyway to make it happen.

    Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files

  • AntoniusAntonius
    @Dunn Can throw something up later on for you. On my phone right now so don't have access to any of my scripts.

    Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files

  • EldEld
    Dunn said:
    Do tell, please. I like to read those to sate myself while I save for my second class
    sendGMCP([[Char.Skills.Get {"group":"subterfuge","name":"phase"}]]) sends the GMCP event to request info. Server returns a Char.Skills.Info event, a là:
    {
      group = "subterfuge",
      skill = "phase",
      info = [[
    *** You have not yet learned this ability ***

    Syntax:
    PHASE
    UNPHASE

    Extra Information:
    Unphase cooldown: 6.00 seconds of equilibrium.

    Works on/against:
    Self

    Cooldown:
    4.00 seconds of balance
    Resource:
    100 mana
    Details:
    This is probably the most effective concealment ability there is. While phased, you will be 
    hidden from all mortal adventurers, aside from other phased ones. You will, further, be unable 
    to interact with items, denizens, or unphased adventurers. The caveat here is that you may try 
    to attack an unphased adventurer, which will automatically unphase you. Thus, phase can be 
    used as an effective aid to assassinations.

    Be warned that you will lose endurance rather quickly while phased.]]
    }

    I don't know of a way to get the list of abilities for each skill other than parsing the output of HELP SKILLNAME.
  • SilvarienSilvarien
    edited September 2015
    Keeping my fingers crossed that the October promotion to be revealed tonight will be a Lesson Sale promo, even better if it's bundled with another benefit like this month's crown/credit sale promo was.

    Edit: @Sarapis , @Tecton : any chance future Lesson Sale promos could have a 15,000 lesson option as the largest, rather than 10,000? For people going for 5+ classes this would be a better fit, though I admit I myself can't do that much this month.
  • AustereAustere Tennessee
    Silvarien said:
    Keeping my fingers crossed that the October promotion to be revealed tonight will be a Lesson Sale promo, even better if it's bundled with another benefit like this month's crown/credit sale promo was.
    Since promotions are IRE wide,  I wouldn't get my hopes up. Everyone didn't get multiclass at the same time, sadly. I would hesitate to say that we make up the majority of purchases though, so it's possible!
  • AntoniusAntonius
    @Eld Sending the same GMCP request with just a group, not a name, should return the list of abilities in gmcp.Char.Skills.List.list and the accompanying descriptions (i.e. the text on the AB <skill> list, not the full AB info) in gmcp.Char.Skills.List.descs.

    Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files

  • EldEld
    Antonius said:
    @Eld Sending the same GMCP request with just a group, not a name, should return the list of abilities in gmcp.Char.Skills.List.list and the accompanying descriptions (i.e. the text on the AB <skill> list, not the full AB info) in gmcp.Char.Skills.List.descs.
    Ah, right. I checked that AB SKILL still didn't give you the list for skills you don't have, but forgot to check whether you could get them directly via the GMCP request.
  • TarausTaraus The Gypsy Wind
    Lothien said:
    If I have a ranger's bow with shooting addon (so sylvan can use it) and just want to upgrade the bow to, say, Lupine but don't care if sylvan can use it, is that possible? Or is shooting "attached permanently" and thus requires the upgraded amounts alongside?
    From my own experience, no, it's not permanently attached. I bought L1 when I was Occie/Dragon for meteor functionality, then went Serp/Dragon and dropped shooting to lower the cost to upgrade to L3, forsaking bow usage in dragonform.

  • JukilianJukilian
    My understanding was that the Shooting add-on is simply a once off add-on. You just pay the difference between the bow levels once you have it.
  • KryptonKrypton shi-Khurena
    No, I think you have to pay the difference for SHOOT add-on, too, if you want to keep it on a higher level bow.

    So to get from a Level 1 w/ shoot (250 + 100), to a Level 3 w/ shoot (1000 + 500), you pay the 750 bow difference AND the 400 shoot difference.

    I think in Lothien's example, if he wants to upgrade from Level 1 to Level 3 and drop his SHOOT add-on, he would only have to pay 1000 - (250 + 100) = 650.
  • DochithaDochitha
    Silvarien said:

    Edit: @Sarapis , @Tecton : any chance future Lesson Sale promos could have a 15,000 lesson option as the largest, rather than 10,000? For people going for 5+ classes this would be a better fit, though I admit I myself can't do that much this month.
    10,000 lessons sales? Where? I thought we only get 2x 1,000 no-brainer lessons deals? HALP.
  • LyrLyr
    Sometimes the promotion is lesson sales. They just extended the Mayan Crown one so I doubt we'll be getting that anytime soon. :(
  • AshelynneAshelynne
    Dochitha said:
    Silvarien said:

    Edit: @Sarapis , @Tecton : any chance future Lesson Sale promos could have a 15,000 lesson option as the largest, rather than 10,000? For people going for 5+ classes this would be a better fit, though I admit I myself can't do that much this month.
    10,000 lessons sales? Where? I thought we only get 2x 1,000 no-brainer lessons deals? HALP.
    Once every other other blue moon IRE has a lesson sale as their monthly promotion instead of credit sales, gift bags and the like.

  • AradorArador
    Make Bard Dex-based too while you are at it.

    Tanky bastards.

    *ducks*

  • SarapisSarapis
    Ashelynne said:
    Dochitha said:
    Silvarien said:

    Edit: @Sarapis , @Tecton : any chance future Lesson Sale promos could have a 15,000 lesson option as the largest, rather than 10,000? For people going for 5+ classes this would be a better fit, though I admit I myself can't do that much this month.
    10,000 lessons sales? Where? I thought we only get 2x 1,000 no-brainer lessons deals? HALP.
    Once every other other blue moon IRE has a lesson sale as their monthly promotion instead of credit sales, gift bags and the like.
    You're unlikely to see those in the future. They always do terribly for us, on all games.
  • SilvarienSilvarien
    edited October 2015
    Sarapis said:
    Ashelynne said:
    Dochitha said:
    Silvarien said:

    Edit: @Sarapis , @Tecton : any chance future Lesson Sale promos could have a 15,000 lesson option as the largest, rather than 10,000? For people going for 5+ classes this would be a better fit, though I admit I myself can't do that much this month.
    10,000 lessons sales? Where? I thought we only get 2x 1,000 no-brainer lessons deals? HALP.
    Once every other other blue moon IRE has a lesson sale as their monthly promotion instead of credit sales, gift bags and the like.
    You're unlikely to see those in the future. They always do terribly for us, on all games.
    @Sarapis : I am a sad panda bear. :-( I am also a sad Dwarf Foreman, a sad Dwarf Miner and a sad Dwarf Brawler.
  • KayeilKayeil Washington State
    I was told the credit sales are equivalent to lesson sales anyways, you just have to convert the credits to lessons.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

  • SilvarienSilvarien
    edited October 2015
    Kayeil said:
    I was told the credit sales are equivalent to lesson sales anyways, you just have to convert the credits to lessons.
    @Kayeil : I recall 10k lessons being like 220 or 240... cause creds can be used for a number of things, but lessons are more limited.

    I don't think it'll matter anymore, though, because Lord Sarapis said we're not going to be getting them very much anymore.
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