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And Dazzle/Arc is a thing.
And Hellsight/Arc is a thing.
And Force.
And Demons.
And Piety.
And yesterday I saw a 2H Paladin, 2 dualcut Paladins, and 0 snb.
Gg Targ
Go Targ!
Also being able to stick recurring lethargy/addiction/clumsiness is probably pretty neat for Damnation, though I don't know because I've never been Paladin.
Sword and shield is an absolute monster right now, but how long will that last? Seems like it's just begging to be nerfed at some point.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
EDIT: Too many Knight threads. SnB is stronk, yes.
Not to say it isn't an issue, but for you personally it isn't.
As I see it, S&B is one of the most inventive class specialisation (and the combat choreography is nice). There are so many ways to combine attacks for offensive, defensive or 'get me out of here' purpose. The specialisation does not have a decisive kill method apart from disembowel, which means you are going to fight against a player (and his/her take on S&B) rather than a kill setup or curing priorities. Combinations of sword, shield, strike, ferocity, dedication grouped with class abilities (chivalry, necromancy, devotion, etc.) and secondary abilities (tattoos, riding, survival etc.), even race abilities (xorans still breathe fire, right?), create confusion regarding what will the knight do next and how? Due to lack of a spec. specific instakill (well, maybe not. we do have cleave), different knight players may come up with different strategies to compete. Seems like S&B combat will keep evolving constantly with increasing use of specialisation and player skill.
Also, I have one question. My ferocity counts down to and stays at 1 after I reach 4 and do nothing to add more to it. If I use shieldstrike at 4, ferocity goes down to zero. But does it never go to zero if I do not use shieldstrike at full ferocity?
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
It could become more viable if SnB Infernal had access to Stain, allowing for better softlocks to stack limb venoms in. Should only be for SnB though since Dual Cutting Infernal would be a bit crazy with Stain.
Other than that, without a way to shrivel limbs with the shield, you do not have that threat of Vivisect, really.
Other than Shieldstrike no you can't chain any of the necromancy abilities, since shieldstrike takes no balance. Just tested it out.
I have an SoA and pretty much always use a buckler. If I'm getting hit hard enough that I need to take a speed loss on my combinations by switching to SoA, then in almost all situations, something has gone seriously wrong. I don't really see SoA as being good for S&B, either for PVP or bashing - however it does ramp up knight damage resistance to even more whimsically large percentages.
For reference, against a target with 4900-ish health, it takes 11 slices to break and 10 rends to break. Alternatively, I could rend with a broadsword/double leg prep/buy a wand of illusions to get around SLC but I'd rather walk the path of least resistance.
Just wondering, would buffing the limb damage from rend be "fair" to make the skill more useful?
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SLC (assuming you mean my SLC here) doesn't support S&B yet (going live soon, assuming I don't abandon the whole limb damage thing out of forum-induced frustration).
While it's open-sourced, I doubt people are going to be able to get accurate enough thumbrules to make it effective against SnB prior to the knight update.
As for 11 slices, 10 rends, I can say with 100% certainty that that is not correct, unless you're switching weapons (which would kind defeat the purpose of using Rend at all). Just saw your last post.
As for your recommendation, I strongly agree with the notion that Rend should have some kind of buff, and a boost in limb damage would probably be the most logical.
As it stands, Slice and Rend do almost exactly the same amount of limb damage DPS (and to a lesser extent, actual DPS), making the only difference between them affliction rate (making Rend almost entirely pointless other than for "burst" uses, like playing whack-a-naga-mole with people who are using things like Evade, hangedman, reflection/rebounding, etc, to disrupt prep).
Rend is also kindof useful for "burst damage" but only in the way that old Knights used double battleaxes (basically, for last hits if you think it will kill your target). In most cases, it's still better to just use a normal speed combo and have time for a second one, though, particularly since all three knights have some variation of Piety.
Another note regarding SLC, it doesn't fall for attacks that don't do damage, so wand of illusion won't work (but blackout will). Changing weapon types can also "hide" breaks against SLC, but only against people who don't use it's API to adjust things on the fly, which is prettye easy to do (but I'm guessing people don't bother doing).
The ratio is not 1.5. If you're going to use a thumbrule, it should be 1.6.
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