The Big Change - Tradeskills

Amarillys

Kresslack said:

Amarillys said:

And yeah, I know Suffering as Mhaldorians use it is a proper noun, but considering the blade could be used by others, I figured it'd be best to keep it at suffering. Also, no.

I was being facetious!

I know ^_^

Sarapis

Jukilian said:

Are there tribal and camouflage descriptors for forging, @Sarapis? On phone or I'd look.

Would make @Vesios happy, at least  

There aren't, and probably won't be. "Tribal" is meaningless (need to specify which culture you're talking about) and camouflage just feels too modern.

Antonius

How does overharvesting work now? Is that still a thing? What kind of penalties are possible/likely if it is and somebody were to do it?

Melodie

Overharvesting hasn't existed in a good few years now, thankfully.

The only problem I ran into harvesting was very grumpy old forestals in their groves. 

Kinilan

Maybe it's just me but stasis scabbards and the like feel pointless now. Before, sure, you wanted to keep those perfect stat weapons for as long as possible. Now? Meh. It's cheaper and easier to make a new weapon then it is to augment a scabbard.

Kez

Only if that weapon wasn't made with expensive descriptors.

Melodie

I suspect Blademasters still rather like them, and I use normal stasis bags for all kinds of things - usually rare items I pick up and can't non-decay right away.

Kinilan

Ya I'm not going to spend a mountain of gold every 2-4 months for something that looks different and has 2-3 extra points. Some people will. Maybe a lot of people will and I'm the minority. It's early still. But at at glance stasis looks pointless.

Tael

Unless I'm mistaken, stasis scabbards don't cost a particularly large mountain of gold. So long as that remains true, it will be economical whenever people spend enough gold that a stasis scabbard is less expensive than the weapons, which isn't particularly hard to imagine even if you aren't shelling out for the most expensive descriptors out there.

Addama

Tael said:

Unless I'm mistaken, stasis scabbards don't cost a particularly large mountain of gold. So long as that remains true, it will be economical whenever people spend enough gold that a stasis scabbard is less expensive than the weapons, which isn't particularly hard to imagine even if you aren't shelling out for the most expensive descriptors out there.

You can find stasis scabbards/baldrics/beltloops/etc for under 2k, and you can usually pay a citymate in comms to Stasis whatever you want for as much if not less.

Antonius

Are there any bonuses to Inkmilling at Trans over Mythical other than having Potency? I don't really need extra charges on tattoos since all of the ones I use regularly are artefact (except starburst because that's not an option).

Also occurred to me that I should have learnt it as my fifth skill if I won't be learning to Transcendent, but too late now.

Addama

Antonius said:

Are there any bonuses to Inkmilling at Trans over Mythical other than having Potency? I don't really need extra charges on tattoos since all of the ones I use regularly are artefact (except starburst because that's not an option).

Also occurred to me that I should have learnt it as my fifth skill if I won't be learning to Transcendent, but too late now.

Potency wasn't so compelling for me either, so I saved the (150?) lessons and just went Mythical.

Jukilian

Hey.

Any word on stocking scrolls efficiently yet, or enchanting batches of scrolls?

@Malaphus @Trilliana

Trilliana

Jukilian said:

Hey.

Any word on stocking scrolls efficiently yet, or enchanting batches of scrolls?

@Malaphus @Trilliana

no change yet, unfortunately.

@Sarapis @Tecton Can we get an idea if this will change? Please please?

Herose

When I enchanted new scrolls it actually changed the type of scrolls to something like "a scroll with the fire resistance enchantment".  Then I could batch those.  Unfortunately, it didn't change previously existing enchanted scrolls.

Shirszae

I wish they would get around to fixing the bug with the percent that's supposed to show how far you are into a particular blacksmithing rank in SCORE 2. Its been stuck on 0 for a while now.

Trilliana

Herose said:

When I enchanted new scrolls it actually changed the type of scrolls to something like "a scroll with the fire resistance enchantment".  Then I could batch those.  Unfortunately, it didn't change previously existing enchanted scrolls.

Thank you SOOO much for posting this. I wouldn't have known! Though now I'm out 6 enchanted scrolls, but oh well!

Rispok

Shirszae said:

I wish they would get around to fixing the bug with the percent that's supposed to show how far you are into a particular blacksmithing rank in SCORE 2. Its been stuck on 0 for a while now.

I think it is fixed now

Tael

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but AB SYNTHESIS EXTRACTION says: "It is not necessary to know the corresponding Alchemy ability to extract, though having such knowledge will allow a greater yield to the learned alchemist."

This seems to imply that there's a corresponding Alchemy ability, but there doesn't appear to be one. Is there supposed to be, or does the ab file need to be changed?

Hellen

That's funny. As you say, I don't see extraction in alchemy, which is strange considering the material requirement for stuff in physiology. I didn't think to look at extraction in synthesis.

Perhaps this was a simple matter of oversight and they either changed it and intended to change the AB file, or they didn't put extraction back into alchemy.

Adet

Hellen said:

That's funny. As you say, I don't see extraction in alchemy, which is strange considering the material requirement for stuff in physiology. I didn't think to look at extraction in synthesis.

Perhaps this was a simple matter of oversight and they either changed it and intended to change the AB file, or they didn't put extraction back into alchemy.

I think it's just an oversight. Extraction was listed in the Alchemy AB shortly after the change, but alchemists didn't actually have the ability. My advice to alchemists without two tradeskills would be to pick up synthesis: inept gives you extract and transmutate, which will keep you in primes and ametals for channel, revive, homunculus. Alternatively, give those two abilities back to alchemists!

Adet

Adet said:

transmutate

Synthesise.

Tael

Hellen said:

That's funny. As you say, I don't see extraction in alchemy, which is strange considering the material requirement for stuff in physiology.

Even if they did give alchemists extract and metallurgy, you would still need synthesis for formulation.

I think the intention is that you either need synthesis or you need to find a supplier. Which I find pretty neat, personally.

Riashain

Just typo it. There's a bunch of these. They fix them pretty quick.

Teynanin

Tael said:

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but AB SYNTHESIS EXTRACTION says: "It is not necessary to know the corresponding Alchemy ability to extract, though having such knowledge will allow a greater yield to the learned alchemist."

This seems to imply that there's a corresponding Alchemy ability, but there doesn't appear to be one. Is there supposed to be, or does the ab file need to be changed?

Synthesis Extraction was originally an Alchemist ability, of course, with the exact same AB. In that case I think the "corresponding Alchemy ability" were AB ALCHEMY SALT, AB ALCHEMY SULPHUR, AB ALCHEMY MERCURY.

I extract 3-4 in sparse rooms, with those Alchemy abilities and without the trait. Is that normal or are the Alchemy things still influencing it? (not necessarily a bad thing if they are, although I might be biased...) 

Antonius

Are the scorpions in the pit in the Mhojave Desert the only place to get yellow chitin?

Jukilian

@Trilliana‌

I haven't tried enchanting scrolls yet. Do we know yet if there is a way to enchant 5 at a time with a Medallion?

Is it possible to batch scrolls by enchantment type in shops?

Do scrolls bought before the scroll name-changes-on-enchanting when they are enchanted now, have their name change still?

Cheers!

Trilliana

Jukilian said:

@Trilliana‌

I haven't tried enchanting scrolls yet. Do we know yet if there is a way to enchant 5 at a time with a Medallion?

Is it possible to batch scrolls by enchantment type in shops?

Do scrolls bought before the scroll name-changes-on-enchanting when they are enchanted now, have their name change still?

Cheers!

I had to give up my Medallion, but I think what was said a few pages back is it won't be possible, which is logical since the enchantments we can put on the scrolls are a one at a time enchantment.

The names do change now, from a thick scroll of vellum (or whatever it is) to something like A scroll possessing the water walking enchantment

Kyrra

@Antonius, I believe so yes.

Antonius

Kyrra said:

@Antonius, I believe so yes.

Hm, thanks. Now that I've actually been able to get in there and kill them a few times the amount of chitin you get isn't that bad, especially with the artefact cleaver, so it shouldn't be that big an issue.