Memorable quotes

Halos

HEAL is 10s.

Aegoth

Alright Jhui, i'll bite. Explain to me why a dragonheal timer is necessary for a skill that is easily stopped by basic hinderances available to almost every affliction class. 

Jukilian

Bloodboil, at least, is stopped easily by paralysis - as well as prone, entangled, etc.

Cooper

Aegoth said:

Alright Jhui, i'll bite. Explain to me why a dragonheal timer is necessary for a skill that is easily stopped by basic hinderances available to almost every affliction class. 

Because the abilities weren't stopped by "basic" hinderance, and were spammable, making those classes 100% unkillable vs. affliction classes if they were smart.

Jukilian

What is 'basic hindrance'? From what I've seen, any hindrance stops Bloodboil, at least.

Edit: One broken arm stops it, too.

Jhui

Aegoth said:

Alright Jhui, i'll bite. Explain to me why a dragonheal timer is necessary for a skill that is easily stopped by basic hinderances available to almost every affliction class. 

Necklace of Purity, reflections will cover the other 20 seconds for you unless you like run out of herbs or something.

Santar

The only relevant affliction that stops bloodboil is paralysis.

Dunn

Uh... why should any active cure that cures 1+ afflictions be spammable?

Aegoth

Santar said:

The only relevant affliction that stops bloodboil is paralysis.

Nope. Entanglement stops it, prone, one broken arm (level 1).. pretty much anything that can stop me from attacking you will stop bloodboil. 

Jhui

does he have to bold stuff for you to realize what he's saying or is the internet hard for you?

here:

relevant

Aegoth

How are the other forms of hinderance not relevant? If it stops an ability and is easily accessible, it's preeeeetty relevant. Whether or not you use such hinderances is on you

Jukilian

I guess the question that needs to be asked is: why is paralysis the only relevant affliction? For those of us that don't know why.

Iuneos

Because a serpent isn't going to stop affliction pressure to web you or dstab epseth/teth or whatever, and neither is any other affliction class. 

Cooper

"Let me completely ruin my offense by webbing you so you can't be immune to my afflictions" is good logic

Santar

Entanglement, crippled arms, and being prone are all things that are generally cured independently of all affliction stacking. 

In a 1v1 setting, there's almost no practical situation where you're going to want to bloodboil but be denied the ability to bloodboil because of entanglement, prone, or crippled arms.  It's relevant in very few situations against a few classes, like maybe infernal/jester/bard where it might make a difference. Apostate/Serpent/Occultist will never have you entangled/proned/crippled arms as part of their offense. And against other classes, there's no reason to want to bloodboil.

Xer

You forgot Shaman when it comes to mangled/broken/crippled arms

Jovolo

What's a Shaman? :O

Santar

Xer said:

You forgot Shaman when it comes to mangled/broken/crippled arms

I said Jester.

Decided it wasn't worth 6 more keystrokes to say Shaman.

Kerria

Avitus takes a bag of catnip from a canvas backpack.

Kandra points accusingly at Avitus.

Shield Instructor Kandra Dawyn says in Cyrenese, "I KNEW IT."

Avitus says in a determined, unwavering voice, "IT'S MINE, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!"

Kandra attempts to stifle her amusement but cannot help laughing aloud.

Avitus quickly pops a bag of catnip into his mouth, his eyes glazing over as he grows still and silent.

Shara

02:46:58 A voice at great distance yells, "Spirit ... Charybdis, ... thee! ... bitch ..."
At great distance, Lady @Aelyn Le'Yuet, Osprey of Destiny yells, "Bitch mnoratoush ... legion ... careful ..."

Sassy mouth on that one. You tell that token, gurl!

Kerria

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Why do we have so man enemies, anyway? We're the most innoffensive city."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "We've got like three rules: don't hit us, don't steal from us, don't be a jerk."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "And somehow over 1000 people don't get it!"

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Although that's over several hundred years, so maybe it's not so bad."

Rangor

Kerria said:

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Why do we have so man enemies, anyway? We're the most innoffensive city."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "We've got like three rules: don't hit us, don't steal from us, don't be a jerk."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "And somehow over 1000 people don't get it!"

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Although that's over several hundred years, so maybe it's not so bad."

Schoolyard bully always targets the guys that don't want to fight back.

In achaea this is rewarded with experience and stats.

Talysin

Everybody get some cherry candy yum-yum.

Rinzai

Kerria said:

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Why do we have so man enemies, anyway? We're the most innoffensive city."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "We've got like three rules: don't hit us, don't steal from us, don't be a jerk."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "And somehow over 1000 people don't get it!"

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Although that's over several hundred years, so maybe it's not so bad."

I don't know the other city totals I imagine it's in the same realm if not more extreme in some cases, but Cyrene always seems to have the longest terms, and largest penalties, so most people don't bother when they find out they owe, hundreds of thousands.

Asmodron

Rinzai said:

Kerria said:

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Why do we have so man enemies, anyway? We're the most innoffensive city."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "We've got like three rules: don't hit us, don't steal from us, don't be a jerk."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "And somehow over 1000 people don't get it!"

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Although that's over several hundred years, so maybe it's not so bad."

I don't know the other city totals I imagine it's in the same realm if not more extreme in some cases, but Cyrene always seems to have the longest terms, and largest penalties, so most people don't bother when they find out they owe, hundreds of thousands.

I recall a wonderful line Maya once said about Cyrene and it's enemy statuses during an event that was to be held in cyrene's arena.

"Good heavens. Is anyone NOT enemied to cyrene??"

Nadria

Yeah I think my char's fine to Cyrene is like 350-450k. Then suddenly I didn't want to be unenemied anymore. Haha.

Darklyre

Rinzai said:

Kerria said:

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Why do we have so man enemies, anyway? We're the most innoffensive city."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "We've got like three rules: don't hit us, don't steal from us, don't be a jerk."

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "And somehow over 1000 people don't get it!"

Drual Xanatov-Vorondil, Sentry of Cyrene says in Cyrenese, "Although that's over several hundred years, so maybe it's not so bad."

I don't know the other city totals I imagine it's in the same realm if not more extreme in some cases, but Cyrene always seems to have the longest terms, and largest penalties, so most people don't bother when they find out they owe, hundreds of thousands.

Nadria said:

Yeah I think my char's fine to Cyrene is like 350-450k. Then suddenly I didn't want to be unenemied anymore. Haha.

Agreed with both of you - I remember asking awhile back what my fines were for Cyrene and it was a ridiculously high number, whereas my fine for Eleusis was nowhere near as high even though I'd helped blow up their icons.

Mhaldor has low fines, but I found it annoying because each org would enemy you for a single offense against any one of them, and they each had separate unenemying policies.

Iocun

Cyrene is the city of respect, so it knows to properly appreciate the severity of your crimes by giving appropriate sentences.

Nothing hurts more than raiding a city for years, then asking what your fine is, and getting laughed at and being told "you're fine. We don't keep track of petty offences."

Looking at you, Mhaldor 

Xer

Pft. Don't worry, every single time you touch a chip of our defendable totem, I've increased your fine by 1 gold sovereign. You've amassed quite the fine Iocun!

Cooper

My fine to cyrene after leading a few people on a suicide rush into their gates to distract them during an event was like 1 million gold and 25 years.