Memorable quotes, people. Or @Silas gets to test the new prototype Targossas Guillotine/cliff jump death sequence.
Oh wait...
Is that the one where the victim gets tossed off a cliff, and midway through the waterfall, a perfectly-aimed chainlinked blade shoots out from behind the curtain of water, decapitating said victim mid-air?
Memorable quotes, people. Or @Silas gets to test the new prototype Targossas Guillotine/cliff jump death sequence.
Oh wait...
Is that the one where the victim gets tossed off a cliff, and midway through the waterfall, a perfectly-aimed chainlinked blade shoots out from behind the curtain of water, decapitating said victim mid-air?
that or she's implying that Silas is a lemming
Aurora says, "Tharvis, why are you always breaking things?!" Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh." Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
Carmain says, "Yes." You say, "Why?" Carmain says, "Because cats." Carmain looks around carefully for a second before stroking his beautiful brow and whispering, "Wark."
Carmain says, "Yes." You say, "Why?" Carmain says, "Because cats." Carmain looks around carefully for a second before stroking his beautiful brow and whispering, "Wark."
@Talysin. Taly is pretty reasonable and gets on with most. He's the bomb.
@Halios, I'm afraid you can't be part of the grief + gank crowd, which you seem to aspire to sometimes, and also part of the reasonable crowd who treats others decently. Join the Eleison-sponsored initative of "don't gank, yo". Free cupcakes.
I have no idea why some Eleusians are so sensitive about this. I've literally been through hell and back with several of the Good-faction Gods, most notably Pentharian and Aurora, and while it's definitely shocking and can be easy to be taken personally, all you really need to do is take a step back and think about this from a roleplaying perspective. So Gaia called you out. So what?
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I swear, I'm beginning to wonder if Gaia is wasted on Eleusis. She is an incredible God any faction should be exceptionally thankful to have, and all I've seen from the majority of the faction is spitting in her face, and I'm goddamn sick and tired of it.
Here's the thing, from my perspective. Please bear in mind I'm not anti-Gaia whatsoever. I've had barely any interactions with Gaia IG. If she's got plans for Eleusis, and wants to make a big splash, turn things around, whatever, that's fine. I know there are players who dislike Gaia, I've heard them talking, I tend to ignore it because I don't care, I just log on for the PvP, not the politics.
My problem is that I don't disagree Ravien needs to step down. She barely logs in anymore, and as others pointed out, she's been Speaker for 7 years now. That's a really long time. However, as you said you're sick and tired of people spitting in Gaia's face, I'm also sick of people spitting in Ravien's face on Eleusis' boards and on the forums, making it sound like she's some horrible leader who's so full of mistakes and ineptitude that she's single-handedly holding Eleusis back from some great entity its destined to be. That is a hysterical notion.
I pray our next Speaker can handle crap like daily Mhashtan occupations, offer morale support to both ritualists and soldiers so nobody feels one is favored over the other, and all the other stuff that comes with IG leadership with the dignity that Ravien has over the past 7 years.
TLDR: If you want Ravien out, just point out that she's barely active. Don't rake her over the coals for perceived imperfections, when she's been one of the most level-headed IG leaders Achaea has ever seen.
I have no idea why some Eleusians are so sensitive about this. I've literally been through hell and back with several of the Good-faction Gods, most notably Pentharian and Aurora, and while it's definitely shocking and can be easy to be taken personally, all you really need to do is take a step back and think about this from a roleplaying perspective. So Gaia called you out. So what?
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I swear, I'm beginning to wonder if Gaia is wasted on Eleusis. She is an incredible God any faction should be exceptionally thankful to have, and all I've seen from the majority of the faction is spitting in her face, and I'm goddamn sick and tired of it.
Here's the thing, from my perspective. Please bear in mind I'm not anti-Gaia whatsoever. I've had barely any interactions with Gaia IG. If she's got plans for Eleusis, and wants to make a big splash, turn things around, whatever, that's fine. I know there are players who dislike Gaia, I've heard them talking, I tend to ignore it because I don't care, I just log on for the PvP, not the politics.
My problem is that I don't disagree Ravien needs to step down. She barely logs in anymore, and as others pointed out, she's been Speaker for 7 years now. That's a really long time. However, as you said you're sick and tired of people spitting in Gaia's face, I'm also sick of people spitting in Ravien's face on Eleusis' boards and on the forums, making it sound like she's some horrible leader who's so full of mistakes and ineptitude that she's single-handedly holding Eleusis back from some great entity its destined to be. That is a hysterical notion.
I pray our next Speaker can handle crap like daily Mhashtan occupations, offer morale support to both ritualists and soldiers so nobody feels one is favored over the other, and all the other stuff that comes with IG leadership with the dignity that Ravien has over the past 7 years.
TLDR: If you want Ravien out, just point out that she's barely active. Don't rake her over the coals for perceived imperfections, when she's been one of the most level-headed IG leaders Achaea has ever seen.
One does not necessarily relate to the other, as I'm not only speaking about Ravien, but rather a great majority of Eleusis.
That said, don't feel comfortable discussing the rest of that here. All I'll say is, any issues I bring up ICly, in public or private, are always logical, respectful, but blunt and truthful. Anything else, we can discuss somewhere else!
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Honestly, I don't think anyone I've spoken to thinks or has said that Ravien did or does a -bad- job. The war was a bit problematic, obviously. It was a self-inflicted problem that still confuses me at this point. The thing is, 7+ years is too long to hold a position in a game. People love to say "nobody wants the job" or "nobody can fulfill the job" but that's a load of crap. There's always someone who will do it. When players go dormant or just don't have time to dedicate, there's always a void felt but the game goes on and people fill the empty slots. Sure, sometimes replacements are terrible. But then they are also easily replaced, but at least in giving others a shot. Bad job or good, you're offering a chance to change things up and stir up different ideas and perspectives. It's a game, it's not a real life job that anyone is depending on for their lively hood. Main point being, I've never heard anyone say Ravien did a bad job.
Since we seem to be bad at quotes, I dug through my logs and pulled up some of my own!
This was a little bit before Christmas of last year, not too long after my second excommunication. Despite everything that happened, I took special care to create two different paintings for @Daeir and @Halos. The following was Halos' reaction to his gift (since I gave them separately) with a small group in Cyrene:
You say quietly to Halos with a flowing, cultured accent, "Merry Logosmas, Father."
You give a Logosmas gift box to Halos.
@Saeva clasps her hands together behind her back as she furrows her brow.
Halos starts in surprise, holding the box at arms length for a moment.
@Cidusii puts his hand to his forehead and swoons.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest asks, "What.. is this?"
You say dryly to Halos with a flowing, cultured accent, "It's not going to bite you."
Druidess @Yae Dawyn says, "Unless there is a puppy in there."
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "I am not so certain."
Saeva shakes her head and sighs.
You say to Halos with a flowing, cultured accent, "A simple gift, Father. Nothing more or less."
Yae ponders the situation.
Halos wrinkles his nose and sniffs.
Halos drops a Logosmas gift box.
Kneeling, Halos gingerly dislodges the top of the gift box before peering within cautiously.
Halos opens a Logosmas gift box.
Arcane Huntress Saeva Van Helsing says through clenched teeth with a subtle Cyrenian accent, "A chaos entity is not going to pop out at you."
You have emoted: Melodie laces her hands together, bowing her head so her curls hide her expression.
Halos cocks his head to one side, looking at the box then at you again.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says gravely, "A chaos entity would have been less surprising."
Saeva blinks.
Sleepily shedding the vestiges of shadows, the awoken sun slowly rises in the sky, its resplendence unfaltering.
Halos takes a painting on canvas of a sacred world from a Logosmas gift box.
As the first hint of daylight breaks through the night sky, the Cyrenian Clock Tower chimes out a gentle, low din, heralding the arrival of dawn.
Arcane Huntress Saeva Van Helsing says with a subtle Cyrenian accent, "Are you fuc...."
Yae creases her brow in a frown.
Saeva bites her tongue.
You stare implacably at Saeva.
Cidusii sways back and forth.
You say quietly to Halos with a flowing, cultured accent, "Like I said. Just a simple gift, in the spirit of the season. I'm sorry if it offends you."
Saeva carefully lowers the hood on a hooded flowing ivory cloak with black fur lining.
Yae twists her tail back and forth restlessly, tilting her head to look between you and Halos.
Halos runs his hands over the surface of the painting wordlessly.
Yae begins to flap her wings powerfully, and rises quickly up into the firmament.
Halos touches a tattoo and suddenly the ground splits open as a nightmarish tentacle shoots skywards, dragging Yae back to earth.
Yae's eyes widen in surprise as she lets out a startled "MEEP!"
Yae moves her huge bulk to the south with surprising grace.
A shadow falls over Cidusii's countenance as he furrows his brow.
The radiant sun shines all about you.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says absently, "Dragons looming in the skies."
Naevia remains silent as she stands apart from the scene next to Cidusii, though she averts her eyes in an effort of politeness.
Saeva runs her hand across her brow and stares at the sky, keeping her jaw shut tightly.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "This image seems vaguely familiar to me. It is a crude rendering but there is something there that ---."
Halos blinks rapidly, visibly relaxing as realisation dawns upon him.
You say quietly with a flowing, cultured accent, "I admit my painting skills are far from a Scarlattan's."
Despite himself, a warmth enters Halos' dark eyes as his lips part in a small smile.
Halos shakes his head.
Halos clears his throat, setting the painting aside quickly.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says gruffly, "A work of fiction."
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "You have quite the imagination, fallen priestess."
You have emoted: Melodie lets out a soft, brief sigh.
You say with a flowing, cultured accent, "Beatrice described the place to me once - a long time ago. The rest is simply imagination."
Saeva turns back and begins to stroke a silvered reindeer's neck, murmuring and grumbling sharp words under her breath.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "I do not know if this is sphere of Aydin or the highest Empyrean."
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "I have never been there, myself."
You say with a flowing, cultured accent, "Nor I. You'll forgive me for filling in a few blanks with my brush."
Halos tucks the painting under his arm, nodding.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "No no, you could not have known better."
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "This is quiet alright."
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says stiffly, "Thank you for sharing this ... vision with me."
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "It is lovely."
You say gently with a flowing, cultured accent, "I am only sorry I could not do more, Father. It is little in face of everything, but it is what I have to give you, right now."
Halos shakes his head.
Stepping forward, Halos places a hand on your shoulder, offering the briefest of smiles.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says quietly, "It is a place I hope we both are able to see one day with our own eyes."
You have emoted: Melodie tilts her head up, startled. A warm, genuine smile breaks out across her face, changing her solemn expression.
You say to Halos with a flowing, cultured accent, "It would be my highest honour and joy for us to do so."
Halos looks thoughtfully at a guardian angel beside you before letting his hand fall.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "They are always watching over us, I think. Even when we do not know it. In the darkest of times."
You have emoted: Melodie glances to her side, a sad smile touching her lips.
Remembering himself suddenly, Halos looks away, lowering his eyes.
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "I must be away. Thank you again."
Purifier Halos Vorondil, Caefir Priest says, "It was good to see you again, Saeva Van Helsing."
Halos lowers his head respectfully.
You say softly with a flowing, cultured accent, "Be well, Father. Thank you for dropping in."
Halos is swiftly carried into the skies and out of sight by a pair of eagle's wings.
A giant tortoise plods slowly to the ether.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
I did HL for a year, was plenty. Was good to get back to just playing the game for fun after that, not that HL wasn't fun but it was a lot of work too. :P
That's really not how you interact with an all-powerful being ICly.
This is the only thing you said that bothers me. There's no right or wrong way to interact with anyone ICly. Everyone interacts in their own unique way. Some people are god fearing, others are more relaxed and skeptical of the gods. Why push one agenda on everyone when there's a plethora of unique, fun ways to interact? All-powerful doesn't mean invincible or even not vulnerable to mortals. @Cresil did a fine job with it, and it sparked something quite memorable and, much more importantly, something that impacted the world. It's amazing that @Gaia recognized that and went with it instead of doing what everyone assumed would happen. That's what makes RP great, is that nothing is ever as cut and dry as it seems. It's a shame that you're "disappointed" by this and think there's a specific way to interact with Divine.
If you're Mhaldorian and you're relaxed or sceptical around the gods, you're probably doing something wrong. Even around gods you dislike, it'd be absurd to just treat them like another person since your whole society is founded on the power of the gods.
I have an excuse to be relaxed around most gods. When you've routinely kicked back beers with Phaestus for a few centuries, the line between divine and mortal gets a little fuzzy.
EDIT: for the most part though, agreed with @Silas. If 'respectful contempt' makes any sense, that's how I see most Mhaldorians reacting reasonably to other divine (i.e. you may kill me, but my Master can destroy you).
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Oh wait...
Is that the one where the victim gets tossed off a cliff, and midway through the waterfall, a perfectly-aimed chainlinked blade shoots out from behind the curtain of water, decapitating said victim mid-air?
Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
Party right, party hard,
Sing and dance, perfect bard.
Prefarar loop, accentato whore,Buy a new rapier, get nerfed some more.
Carmain says, "Yes."
You say, "Why?"
Carmain says, "Because cats."
Carmain looks around carefully for a second before stroking his beautiful brow and whispering, "Wark."
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
Yes, he is watching.
But can't spell dying. Seems legit.
Quotes.
@Halios, I'm afraid you can't be part of the grief + gank crowd, which you seem to aspire to sometimes, and also part of the reasonable crowd who treats others decently. Join the Eleison-sponsored initative of "don't gank, yo". Free cupcakes.
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
My problem is that I don't disagree Ravien needs to step down. She barely logs in anymore, and as others pointed out, she's been Speaker for 7 years now. That's a really long time. However, as you said you're sick and tired of people spitting in Gaia's face, I'm also sick of people spitting in Ravien's face on Eleusis' boards and on the forums, making it sound like she's some horrible leader who's so full of mistakes and ineptitude that she's single-handedly holding Eleusis back from some great entity its destined to be. That is a hysterical notion.
I pray our next Speaker can handle crap like daily Mhashtan occupations, offer morale support to both ritualists and soldiers so nobody feels one is favored over the other, and all the other stuff that comes with IG leadership with the dignity that Ravien has over the past 7 years.
TLDR: If you want Ravien out, just point out that she's barely active. Don't rake her over the coals for perceived imperfections, when she's been one of the most level-headed IG leaders Achaea has ever seen.
That said, don't feel comfortable discussing the rest of that here. All I'll say is, any issues I bring up ICly, in public or private, are always logical, respectful, but blunt and truthful. Anything else, we can discuss somewhere else!
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Yay It's awesome!
(Posting useless nonsense is just as bad as people arguing over dumb stuff)
Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
Main point being, I've never heard anyone say Ravien did a bad job.
Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
This was a little bit before Christmas of last year, not too long after my second excommunication. Despite everything that happened, I took special care to create two different paintings for @Daeir and @Halos. The following was Halos' reaction to his gift (since I gave them separately) with a small group in Cyrene:
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Your days are numbered.
(Party): Marcalo says, "You will want hypno in place."
(Party): Marcalo says, "When you attempt this lock."
(Party): Marcalo says, "So as to make it roughsex."
EDIT: for the most part though, agreed with @Silas. If 'respectful contempt' makes any sense, that's how I see most Mhaldorians reacting reasonably to other divine (i.e. you may kill me, but my Master can destroy you).