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  • Tecton said:
    All of the prizes can be made non-decay and resetting! There was some confusion earlier regarding the cowry, but I can confirm that it can be customised!
    Looks like I know what I'm doing tonight.
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  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be
    Sarapis said:
    Ahmet said:
    @Sarapis any plans for Explorers Tome gmcp? :innocent:
    None at all I'm afraid!
    Welp I'mma go cry nao. Thanks @Sarapis :no_mouth: 

    Huh. Neat.
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be

    Lorielan said:
    @Skye Maelstrom will continue offering the rewards for the rest of next week.
    Does this mean that we can gain esteem through the rest of next week? Or just will be able to redeem our esteem through the next week?
    Huh. Neat.
  • @Ahmet Just redemption, I'm afraid!
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be
    Lorielan said:
    @Ahmet Just redemption, I'm afraid!
    Aww. Will we at least be able to farm esteem through the rest of tomorrow?
    Huh. Neat.
  • TharvisTharvis The Land of Beer and Chocolate!
    Tecton said:
    All of the prizes can be made non-decay and resetting! There was some confusion earlier regarding the cowry, but I can confirm that it can be customised!
    Thanks for clearing that up! Infinite rum here I come!
    Aurora says, "Tharvis, why are you always breaking things?!"
    Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
    Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."

  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the Storm
    Lorielan said:
    @Ahmet Just redemption, I'm afraid!
    Curse bank holiday weekends and having children that demand attention :(

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • KuyKuy
    edited May 2015
    How potent is Magi after the changes?  Are destroys fairly common in a 1v1 setting?

    mainly @Jhui
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • nimble magi is very pressuring.  You can nearly perma-break people if they prio around never getting destroyed or frozen.  That used to not be punishable, but with the addition of Conflagrate, you can now punish that.  Destroy and pummel are both great finishers that you can generally always reach, but aren't super easy to reach.  Quick-witted might be okay for raids and bashing, but I definitely prefer nimble for pk.

    It's great at 1v1, but you still need to know it's a prep class without great curing and the hinder can take a few rounds to build up so play defensively accordingly.

    It has a lot of utility and escape, but it all requires management to use.  It's not as easy as hitting a button when you fuck up like some classes have, but it can be if you take the proper steps beforehand.


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  • Jhui said:
    nimble magi is very pressuring.  You can nearly perma-break people if they prio around never getting destroyed or frozen.  That used to not be punishable, but with the addition of Conflagrate, you can now punish that.  Destroy and pummel are both great finishers that you can generally always reach, but aren't super easy to reach.  Quick-witted might be okay for raids and bashing, but I definitely prefer nimble for pk.

    It's great at 1v1, but you still need to know it's a prep class without great curing and the hinder can take a few rounds to build up so play defensively accordingly.

    It has a lot of utility and escape, but it all requires management to use.  It's not as easy as hitting a button when you fuck up like some classes have, but it can be if you take the proper steps beforehand.


    Makes me sad when the better end of PK and a class's bashing attack are on different balances :(
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • Speaking of differet balances... Is battlefury (twohanded weapon user balance) able to be added to prompt?

  • TectonTecton The Garden of the Gods
    Makaela said:
    Speaking of differet balances... Is battlefury (twohanded weapon user balance) able to be added to prompt?
    Should be covered under the custom prompt tag:

     *k     - Knight-specific resources (momentum, ferocity, etc)
  • Does anyone have a monk limb counter that seems to be working-ish?  I'm curious and want to see it :(
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • What Artificing abilities can be combo'd with staffstrike?
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • What ambiance or other messages do the running lights have? Still can't decide what I should get with my esteem.
  • Kuy said:
    Does anyone have a monk limb counter that seems to be working-ish?  I'm curious and want to see it :(

    I'll post my equations when I get home. I still have significant error in the equations, and getting conflicting data regarding how the knuckle multiplier is integrated. My level 2's appear to have only the static portion scaled by the knuckle multiplier, while @Penwize's level 3's appeared to have the scaling portion scaled by the multiplier instead.
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  • KryptonKrypton shi-Khurena
    Is anyone else getting warped FEELINGS VILLAGES? These are all places I have never hunted, or even stepped foot in, in like, real-life years:

    Village                     Feeling
    ----------------------------------------------
    Moghedu                     Suspicion
    The Beast Cultists          Suspicion
    Gnoll fortress              Suspicion
    Tenwat Prison               Suspicion


  • edited May 2015
    I am, I've heard a couple others mention it too. Was too busy hunting and forgot to bug it.
  • KayeilKayeil Washington State
    Krypton said:
    Is anyone else getting warped FEELINGS VILLAGES? These are all places I have never hunted, or even stepped foot in, in like, real-life years:

    Village                     Feeling
    ----------------------------------------------
    Moghedu                     Suspicion
    The Beast Cultists          Suspicion
    Gnoll fortress              Suspicion
    Tenwat Prison               Suspicion


    Oh... mine is a bit messed up, too. I definitely don't hunt Mysia, gnolls, cultists, and Qurnok.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

  • Krypton said:
    Is anyone else getting warped FEELINGS VILLAGES? These are all places I have never hunted, or even stepped foot in, in like, real-life years:

    Village                     Feeling
    ----------------------------------------------
    Moghedu                     Suspicion
    The Beast Cultists          Suspicion
    Gnoll fortress              Suspicion
    Tenwat Prison               Suspicion


    I just checked and...me too.

    I have places listed as "Suspicion" that I have literally never killed anything in, ever.
  • There was a bug that was causing people to see death messages for denizens that weren't anywhere near them, judging from the announce post it seems it was from the DoT abilities. I'm guessing this is the same bug, getting suspicious/disliked because of other people's hits being attributed to you.
  • AktillumAktillum Philippines
    edited May 2015
    Jhui said:
    nimble magi is very pressuring.  You can nearly perma-break people if they prio around never getting destroyed or frozen.  That used to not be punishable, but with the addition of Conflagrate, you can now punish that.  Destroy and pummel are both great finishers that you can generally always reach, but aren't super easy to reach.  Quick-witted might be okay for raids and bashing, but I definitely prefer nimble for pk.

    It's great at 1v1, but you still need to know it's a prep class without great curing and the hinder can take a few rounds to build up so play defensively accordingly.

    It has a lot of utility and escape, but it all requires management to use.  It's not as easy as hitting a button when you fuck up like some classes have, but it can be if you take the proper steps beforehand.


    Ugh dude, fuck off with your constant making me re-think Magi metagame. Its bad enough I went Horkval because you being Horkval made me realize diamondskin+stoneskin+Hork resistance stacks, now you're making me consider changing quick-witted to nimble? :P

    What sort of freaking magic-based class fares better as an intelligently inferior race (lore-wise) while taking balance over eq trait anyways?

    Achaea, I demand you stop bucking trends and start following vanilla, generic class concepts. This is getting out of hand.

  • Aktillum said:
    Jhui said:
    nimble magi is very pressuring.  You can nearly perma-break people if they prio around never getting destroyed or frozen.  That used to not be punishable, but with the addition of Conflagrate, you can now punish that.  Destroy and pummel are both great finishers that you can generally always reach, but aren't super easy to reach.  Quick-witted might be okay for raids and bashing, but I definitely prefer nimble for pk.

    It's great at 1v1, but you still need to know it's a prep class without great curing and the hinder can take a few rounds to build up so play defensively accordingly.

    It has a lot of utility and escape, but it all requires management to use.  It's not as easy as hitting a button when you fuck up like some classes have, but it can be if you take the proper steps beforehand.


    Ugh dude, fuck off with your constant making me re-think Magi metagame. Its bad enough I went Horkval because you being Horkval made me realize diamondskin+stoneskin+Hork resistance stacks, now you're making me consider changing quick-witted to nimble? :P

    What sort of freaking magic-based class fares better as an intelligently inferior race (lore-wise) while taking balance over eq trait anyways?

    Achaea, I demand you stop bucking trends and start following vanilla, generic class concepts. This is getting out of hand.
    Fun fact: Dwarves make the very best Giants.
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be
    Sarapis said:
    Aktillum said:
    Jhui said:
    nimble magi is very pressuring.  You can nearly perma-break people if they prio around never getting destroyed or frozen.  That used to not be punishable, but with the addition of Conflagrate, you can now punish that.  Destroy and pummel are both great finishers that you can generally always reach, but aren't super easy to reach.  Quick-witted might be okay for raids and bashing, but I definitely prefer nimble for pk.

    It's great at 1v1, but you still need to know it's a prep class without great curing and the hinder can take a few rounds to build up so play defensively accordingly.

    It has a lot of utility and escape, but it all requires management to use.  It's not as easy as hitting a button when you fuck up like some classes have, but it can be if you take the proper steps beforehand.


    Ugh dude, fuck off with your constant making me re-think Magi metagame. Its bad enough I went Horkval because you being Horkval made me realize diamondskin+stoneskin+Hork resistance stacks, now you're making me consider changing quick-witted to nimble? :P

    What sort of freaking magic-based class fares better as an intelligently inferior race (lore-wise) while taking balance over eq trait anyways?

    Achaea, I demand you stop bucking trends and start following vanilla, generic class concepts. This is getting out of hand.
    Fun fact: Dwarves make the very best Giants.
    <3 Tordahl
    Huh. Neat.
  • AktillumAktillum Philippines
    man, Tordahl's gem used to be one of the best gold quests in Achaea...how far we've come :proud: 

  • Aktillum said:
    Jhui said:
    nimble magi is very pressuring.  You can nearly perma-break people if they prio around never getting destroyed or frozen.  That used to not be punishable, but with the addition of Conflagrate, you can now punish that.  Destroy and pummel are both great finishers that you can generally always reach, but aren't super easy to reach.  Quick-witted might be okay for raids and bashing, but I definitely prefer nimble for pk.

    It's great at 1v1, but you still need to know it's a prep class without great curing and the hinder can take a few rounds to build up so play defensively accordingly.

    It has a lot of utility and escape, but it all requires management to use.  It's not as easy as hitting a button when you fuck up like some classes have, but it can be if you take the proper steps beforehand.


    Ugh dude, fuck off with your constant making me re-think Magi metagame. Its bad enough I went Horkval because you being Horkval made me realize diamondskin+stoneskin+Hork resistance stacks, now you're making me consider changing quick-witted to nimble? :P

    What sort of freaking magic-based class fares better as an intelligently inferior race (lore-wise) while taking balance over eq trait anyways?

    Achaea, I demand you stop bucking trends and start following vanilla, generic class concepts. This is getting out of hand.
    Speaking of, @Jhui , for a Magi without int arties, is int-spec horkval still going to be more useful than int-spec grook?
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • offensively, no, but horkval tank is nice to have.  If you go grook, your damage pressure will be better.  Whether that's more valuable than tanking is up to you.
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  • AktillumAktillum Philippines
    Strictly without artes, Jhui is spot on. But if you ever decide to buy artes, I switched from 18 int Grook to 16 int Horkval and I only lost 90 points of damage on my staffcast, and my stormhammer still does 25%+, though I have a level 2 collar, which I think matters more than Int in the long run. Honestly though for bashing alone, you could probably get away with running around as a 14 Int Horkval since dskin+stoneskin+hork resist+harmony vibe+adduction vibe for really painful mobs that don't follow, with all the new battlerage stuff.

  • Eh, I do fine as Quick-witted. You can still pressure opponents a lot. Hork is better for tanking, yea, and having leap is super useful as well. Magi mainly come down to being able to intelligently work your opponent's salve priorities and manage their limb breaks to get quick dehydrates/freezes. Everything after that is all fluff.
  • AktillumAktillum Philippines
    Aegoth said:
    Eh, I do fine as Quick-witted. You can still pressure opponents a lot. Hork is better for tanking, yea, and having leap is super useful as well. Magi mainly come down to being able to intelligently work your opponent's salve priorities and manage their limb breaks to get quick dehydrates/freezes. Everything after that is all fluff.
    Thats sorta what I've been thinking lately. The extra damage from int/collar is nice and all in raids, but since Mage is a prep-class with a salve-based insta and damn-near Insta (pummel), it seems like you could get away with some retarded meta like going 8 Int troll and telling everyone its for the stun from stonefist punches. Hell, thats probably a thing.

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