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  • TeshaTesha
    edited January 2013
    Bloodleech steadily increases bleeding while preventing clotting. Humbug lowers sip healing. Storm does do direct damage. Gremlin knocks me off balance, which is dangerous when you are trying hangedman+behead. Sycophant steals mana, which I need a lot of when bloodleech is destroyed. You are right in saying they do not do direct damage, but I am not sure you really get the point of me destroying them. It was not to try to be 'lame', it was so I would not die to them.

    I am not really confrontational at all and I really do not like arguing, I guess I just wanted to post that in hopes that you would show a little restraint next time. But I kind of shy away from arguments like this, so um. If you really need to be lame like that I guess it is okay, I will likely just try to avoid you though. I am not the kind of person to retaliate and it sort of sucks when it feels like someone is taking advantage of me not wanting to join in ganks and always being willing to duel.

     i'm a rebel

  • SohlSohl
    edited January 2013
    Gremlin only knocks off balance for a short amount of time, so it's hardly dangerous against a possible behead (especially for a knight, where having balance doesn't matter in that regard). Sycophant drains a negligible amount of mana, and only half the time. Out of the seven different types of entities you orbed, only three affect your ability to tank. That's all fine and good, I wouldn't have minded you orbing leech, storm, and humbug. You started orbing all of the other ones though, especially the minion so that banishment rite starts taking care of the rest. I'm not going to sit and watch you waste my pacts.

    Tesha said:
    If you really need to be lame like that I guess it is okay... someone is taking advantage of me not wanting to join in ganks and always being willing to duel.
    I don't understand the argument that it's okay to use a lame mechanic like whoring orb sigils, but it's not okay to use a lame mechanic like empressing into a totem. That seems like an arbitrary line in the sand. Also, you asked me for the duel, not the other way around. :)
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  • TeshaTesha
    Well what else can I do? You bring someone to try to radiance me in the subdivision, then you bring Earionduil when you come to kill Ada and I, I made it really obvious I would always be willing to duel you, and... well, nevermind. I do not really think this is worth it, so I am going to step away. I am really not the confrontational type. If you feel like you have to win at all costs, that is your decision. 

     i'm a rebel

  • SohlSohl
    Something tells me I'm not getting through to you. :P

    Argument over, bring on the logs!
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  • HuyenHuyen
    edited January 2013
    Sohl said:
    Really this would all be made irrelevant by a simple fix. Entities should not be orbable while a minion is in the room, and the minion itself should never be orbable.

    imageNot sure if bad idea, or terrible idea.
  • CahinCahin
    Huyen said:
    Sohl said:
    Really this would all be made irrelevant by a simple fix. Entities should not be orbable while a minion is in the room, and the minion itself should never be orbable.

    imageNot sure if bad idea, or terrible idea.
    It's not really that bad of an idea.  You are still able to kill entities.  It would just make it more difficult to wipe out all of someones ents quickly, a lot of which the success of the class can depend on.  It wouldn't effect orbing area wide doppie use either.

  • AchillesAchilles Los Angeles
    would also require minion to be squishier, I vaguely recall it taking 6 dsls to kill which is too long to even make killing the minion worthwhile.
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  • SohlSohl
    edited January 2013
    Achilles said:
    would also require minion to be squishier, I vaguely recall it taking 6 dsls to kill which is too long to even make killing the minion worthwhile.
    If six dsl's means it's not worthwhile to kill a minion, why are you bothering to orb ents at all?

    Panpardus said:
    With the smiley I'm not sure if your serious or not, but that's the one of the biggest loads of shit I have read, a weaker opponent orb's your ents and empressing into a totem is the same, you might as well have got a runie to team her outright.  

    One lame mechanic begets another.
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  • SohlSohl
    edited January 2013
     
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  • AchillesAchilles Los Angeles
    edited January 2013
    Sohl said:
    Achilles said:
    would also require minion to be squishier, I vaguely recall it taking 6 dsls to kill which is too long to even make killing the minion worthwhile.
    If six dsl's means it's not worthwhile to kill a minion, why are you bothering to orb ents at all?

    Panpardus said:
    With the smiley I'm not sure if your serious or not, but that's the one of the biggest loads of shit I have read, a weaker opponent orb's your ents and empressing into a totem is the same, you might as well have got a runie to team her outright.  

    One lame mechanic begets another.
    6 dsls is about 12s of balance.  If you bother to dsl/smite (if its a priest) the minion that long (and it will just immediately resummoned which is what, 4s eq?) that's 8 seconds of bloodleech (which has to be killed) plus tarots/other ents just stacking the bleed on you.  Can nearly get a full death tarot card prepped off one minion.  Anything that takes longer than it takes to resummon a minion negates banishment.

    Orbing entities is not even remotely close to empressing into a totem and you need your head check if you seriously consider it the same.

    Last thing, the quality Achaean duels in general have been on a downward spiral.  People need to use to Challenge X to the death arena feature.
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  • TeshaTesha
    I really did not mean to start any trouble or anything of that nature, I guess I just felt like it was lame to the point of not having any answer other than being just as lame. That is something I simply do not want to do, it would not be fun for me or for the other players involved and it would only create a vicious cycle.

     i'm a rebel

  • AkiaAkia phoenix, az
    so its ok to use enchantment in a duel to get a leg up but not runelore?  sounds mighty hypocritical to me! lol

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  • AkiaAkia phoenix, az
    i dont think its the devos fault orb works so well with banishment, but its a problem empress works so well with totems? :(

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  • MizikMizik
    The point that is being missed is that Occultists -should- have the option to use all their skills. Banishment is a broken mechanic, and if anything the minion would be getting tankier since it is so central to having domination.

    What is acceptable about the mechanic behind banishment? Banishment has its place in raids. There is absolutely no excuse for it in a 1v1 scenario.
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  • SynbiosSynbios
    edited January 2013
    I was about to posit a most eloquent response to your questions, @Akia, one that would make Kaevan golfclap in appreciation, then I stumbled upon the revelation that a single word will suffice:

    "Yes."

  • TeshaTesha
    edited January 2013
    I am not sure I understand that argument; using orb sigils so I do not die seems very different from using a city's totem to secure a death tarot. The sigils were a defensive tool, while the totem was used as an offensive weapon. They seem pretty clearly different, am I missing something?

    @Mizik I was unaware that was unfair, but how do I survive if the ents end up causing a death within 3 or 4 minutes?

     i'm a rebel

  • MizikMizik
    And leave the dueling talk to the duelers, you -ing pansy.
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  • TeshaTesha
    Umm... I am sorry? =/ I think I am going to drop this.

     i'm a rebel

  • AchillesAchilles Los Angeles
    Akia said:
    so its ok to use enchantment in a duel to get a leg up but not runelore?  sounds mighty hypocritical to me! lol
    Cool dont use bombs, wear armour, use forged weapons, etc etc.
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  • DunnDunn
    Trollmiz is troll.


  • AkiaAkia phoenix, az
    Sounds fine to me!

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  • AchillesAchilles Los Angeles
    edited January 2013
    Akia said:
    Sounds fine to me!
    A monk would agree!

    No herbs/minerals either, you didn't pick those yourself!
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  • ShunsuiShunsui
    So, random thought, and I admit that I'm no genius with balancing things etc. But lets say we delete orb sigils and minion entities entirely. Change banishment so that it will only banish 1-2 specific entities (specified by the riter when they put it down). This would give devotionists an advantage without completely negating an entire skillset, but would force them to have to pick and choose which entities they don't want to deal with.

    Just for shits and giggles, allow Golgotha as a possible banishment target to block pit (maybe not use up the pact if it's blocked since that's a lot of karma)

  • DaslinDaslin The place with the oxygen
    This got lulzy. I almost wanna see if Akia could kill someone without anything.
  • DunnDunn
    Can do kaichoke and crush while paralyzed. I'm sure Akia can do that.


  • SynbiosSynbios
    Can probably deathstrike if I try really, really hard.

  • MizikMizik
    Tesha said:

    Umm... I am sorry? =/ I think I am going to drop this.

    Not you. I like you.
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  • NellaundraNellaundra
    So...we're supposed to sit there and DSL minions while your other ents and yourself just prep the hell out of us?  Okay?
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  • DunnDunn
    Mizik said:
    Umm... I am sorry? =/ I think I am going to drop this.
    Not you. I like you.
    Uh. I've never seen MIZIK be the stalker.


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