Combat Logs

Aerek

Ryzeth said:

Stuff like this, that makes me stare blankly at people who say Jester isn't strong.

There are people that say this?

Exelethril

Sort of had it coming for ever letting a jester stick asthma + aeon without a puppet.

Kasa

Exelethril said:

Sort of had it coming for ever letting a jester stick asthma + aeon without a puppet.

I lol'd.
I lol'd really hard at this comment. 

Kasa

Kasa said:

Exelethril said:

Sort of had it coming for ever letting a jester stick asthma + aeon without a puppet.

I lol'd.
I lol'd really hard at this comment. 

Elaboration: that's easy to say when you're a prep class. 

Rom

I'm not sure if Exelethril actually read the log or not or was joking but suicidemouse is basically a guaranteed insta against anyone, even the best active curing like dragonheal. You don't even need the afflictions before aeon, it just makes it even more reliable and less difficult. The only balancing factor is that you can only have 2 trained I guess, and that catching them is mind numbing.

Exelethril

Wasn't joking, have no idea how suicide mice work. Also, can you loop epidermal to get rid of itching powder? And what's the balance on Badjoke?

As SnB, I think I'd be okay against juggle(sans puppet) given that I can afford to have weird prios while maintaining momentum. 

As long as itchpowder imp rng doesn't proc with the suicide stun + slickness isn't stuck, maybe looping epidermal (if it gets rid of itch powder) might work to make sure that a venom lock is the furthest they get offensively idk.

Edit : Oh you can use aeon and suicide mouse at the same time gg

Ryzeth

Pretty sure you can't cure it, since you don't technically have the affliction until the first time it procs.

Looping epidermal sure sounds like a great way to get mangle locked and... Still truelocked in the end.

Atalkez

Only real option is stay shielded when speed is down.

Exelethril

It's a guaranteed slowlock with suicide mouse if you don't shield every single time they strip speed, since they can throw asthma before you can smoke elm after the stun(ty Rom). Stripping speed isn't a very hard condition for them to meet.

Or maybe you could shield while aeon'd.. depending on the balance of Badjoke. Or you could roll priest and press bedevil(does that transfer aeon?)

Atalkez

Exelethril said:

It's a guaranteed slowlock with suicide mouse if you don't shield every single time they strip speed, since they can throw asthma before you can smoke elm after the stun(ty Rom). Stripping speed isn't a very hard condition for them to meet.

Or maybe you could shield while aeon'd.. depending on the balance of Badjoke. Or you could roll priest and press bedevil(does that transfer aeon?)

Why would you not?

That is your only option, unless you plan on chancing peels.

Exelethril

I'm thinking of momentum classes being forced to shield everytime a jester flings aeon, okay?!

I might be missing a point and /s here and there but yeah.

Xinna

I always just shielded while aeoned. Jester isn't great vs shield without puppet. Bad joke is slow. Hammer would be their fastest.

You get the itchpowder affliction as soon as it's given and it has a long balance, so you can definitely apply before it ever procs. I'd just apply once the jester starts throwing axes to check for it.

But yeah. Keep speed up too. Hard to tell what brought speed down in that log, since it looked like he just walked in and started throwing + aeon, but he can't do that out of nowhere. Had to have stripped speed at some point and given Mickey.

Do an herb eat to Mickey check on speed strip too.

Exelethril

Isn't bad joke 1.7s?

Atalkez

Syntax:

BADJOKE

Works on/against:

Room

Cooldown:

3.00 seconds of equilibrium

Resource:

100 mana

Details:

This ability will induce the desire to slap you in those who hear your jokes, causing them to lose 

the rebounding aura and shield defences.

Dochitha

Ryzeth said:

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/f64a8e60

Fucking wrecked. @Mizik why no mercy? I thought we were pals

Stuff like this, that makes me stare blankly at people who say Jester isn't strong. So many ways to kill people, and you can't even prepare for all of them, cause they can go different routes on the fly.

Not complaining, it was kinda fun despite being absolutely destroyed. Though it does bring back horrible flashbacks of what happens when fighting a good Jester

He had the mouse go off there, good luck.

Other than that, there are a few defenses you can do, Xinna named many of them. Could use cohosh to waste mickey since cohosh doesn't takes herb balance in case mickey wasn't really there you don't waste herb bal. And throwing can miss, you can attune to the spirit that increases dodge chance.

Fierce Mizik Corten says, "How crazy was that!"

Rom

Mouse going off isn't 'good luck', it is commanded and works 100% of the time.

Unless you mean 'good luck surviving' at that point.

Ryzeth

^
Also, I.. Wasn't wanting the log to be picked apart, just so you know >_> - @Mizik randomly showed up like 5 minutes after I woke up, and was acting like a 5yr old with unlimited candy, wanting to beat me up. Also speed was stripped before I moved, he's just better at chasing as a Jester than he was when I sparred him as Runie, so he got it off.

Wasn't expecting it to be that quick, hence 'wrecked' - The spars before that were a fair bit better, even though one of them I died to something I always did when I was learning Shaman. Facing jester  who also has RoF on top of all their other defensives, is hard.

Dochitha

Ryzeth said:

also has RoF on top of all their other defensives, is hard.

Yeah. You need vodun mangles and cripples, that too, they can drop bomb prone... 

Sobriquet

Exelethril said:

I'm thinking of momentum classes being forced to shield everytime a jester flings aeon, okay?!

I might be missing a point and /s here and there but yeah.

You can't actually beat them unfortunately, its just the way your class is designed

Exelethril

Sobriquet said:

Exelethril said:

I'm thinking of momentum classes being forced to shield everytime a jester flings aeon, okay?!

I might be missing a point and /s here and there but yeah.

You can't actually beat them unfortunately, its just the way your class is designed

Don't make me 30-0 u

Dunn

Damn, @Mizik. Guess we gotta tear that one out of the playbook. \_(ツ)_/¯

Ainly

Exelethril said:

I'm thinking of momentum classes being forced to shield everytime a jester flings aeon, okay?!

I might be missing a point and /s here and there but yeah.

It's a pretty nasty combo.  Strip speed, mouse concussion, aeon, throw axes. But there are a few obstacles.  Being mounted might help dodge an axe.  Itchpowder sometimes ticks in right away, sometimes in a few seconds, sometimes it doesn't tick for what seems like forever (10 seconds?).  If you shield in aeon instead of trying to cure out of it right away.  Can they do this over and over again against a momentum class to ruin their ability to kill you, ya probably.  But then there's a lot of things jesters can do to hinder a momentum class. 

Amranu

Shaman is one of the few classes in the game that is well equipped to deal with Jester, tbh.

Dunn

Can only have two mice at a time and you're definitely not getting them mid fight re: spam use

Xinna

Dunn said:

Can only have two mice at a time and you're definitely not getting them mid fight re: spam use

You can train more midfight. Just a longish balance (3-4 secs to train, 3-4 secs to strap bomb iirc).

You can hold as many mice as you want. Just not trained ones. But you can train anywhere.

Exelethril

I sometimes wonder if this image was the inspiration for passive bedevil aff reflect

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Exelethril

Boring log but.. 0.005 seconds too late to get a kill. Darn you, Mycen.

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/06a2f883

Mizik

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/141eb69d

If this wasn't my only class, I'd start my own thread.

PS: He laughed! #rp

Sobriquet

I love what you do with Jester, its like an art form

Bleak

So I have been away for a while. And I also heard that axekick was nerfed a little. But wtf happened here?!

http://pastebin.com/wbeFnXnr

/edit: Ignore the limbcounter. Its there, but I never use it.