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I am going Alchemist in the near future, and I was wondering if I could get a few full logs on both fighting a alchemist and fighting as a alchemist. Thanks
@Ernam telEpathy
Well damnit.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/9b6ada04
After he killed me, he told me I wouldn't have died if I had SLC.
Edit: Here's the part where I heal torso (because I already have a counter) and then die to loldamage anyway.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/966f4212
Not going to get in a petty argument. I may have arties and Xinna may not, but you made a massive list of play errors in that fight.
And yes, SLC would have been a massive help to you in that fight, if used right. It would have helped you catch the torso break you didn't catch (the first time). It'd also help warn you, or swap priorities/defenses directly prior to SWK/leg break. Defense like mounted, balancing, shield, or simply walking away come to mind.
I'm really sorry you took my message to you as offensive, I absolutely did not mean it to be. Nor was I trying to be condescending. I didn't know Xinna == Terra, so I assumed (based on the fight) that you weren't a combat elite, and could benefit from a bit of friendly OOC advice. That isn't me being passive aggressive, that's just an accurate description of my thought process at the time.
Please accept my apologies, I was just trying to be nice.
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Plug for SLC : Limb counters are not just useful for scripting (which they are incredibly useful for). They're also good for warning you as a player when your limbs are about to break, so that you can adjust your strategy accordingly. Going (essentially voluntarily) into a double leg break, off salve balance, was entirely preventable. If anything you should have shielded on the head/torso break, or ran a few rooms away and used Aria so at the very worst you'd be at max health for dry BBTs. If indeed you're using a limb counter, it doesn't appear to have any display (visible in logs), meaning that unless you're doing it in your head (which you very well may be) you are setting yourself up for pretty dangerous situations (going into a SWK + double leg break off salve, sip, and moss balance, with 3400 health).
lol'd at @cooper's abuse flag.
I was at full health when you began that kill combo. Walking away would do what? Unless you mean actually running from the fight. That always stops one from dying and has nothing to do with SLC.
I shielded plenty. Hence me being at full health when you initiated your kill combo.
I was using balancing. It isn't 100% chance.
I have no mount. You would just kill it, easily.
My point is, the fact that you didn't notice I healed torso and that you think these things you listed would have stopped that prove your combat ineptness. Please stop trying to sell your system to unaware combat noobs, and stop pretending you have any idea what you are doing.
Yes, I can beat you (I have before), but only if my offense is perfect and I kill you before you kill me.
Meant to post this but I can't edit anymore. https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/fef2251f
@Terra it really bothers me that you're getting so upset about this. If you are going to rage so hard about a single death, then why didn't you just run? You act like you vs me is somehow an impossible to win scenario. If that's the case (it isn't), then don't put yourself in it?
I already have warnings when my limbs are about to break!
I'm not upset about dying. I simply do not like it when someone tries to talk like they know what they are doing when they clearly do not, particularly when they are trying to get unaware noobs to buy things with credits that they don't need, which you just admitted to.
I applied to torso when it was needed, you thought I wasn't "combat elite", then you tried to sell me a system that would have done nothing differently than what mine already did by saying "It will keep me from dying" to you.
She just posted a log as Terra, from a fight as [her alt?]... I was literally replying to the same post that she revealed her own alt (that she is being quite open about).
And you break this rule on a daily basis with Ernam/Shecks.
Lastly, @Terra, my system is and has always been free to not only novices, but everyone. All I've ever asked is for a donation in the range of 0-50cr for those that can afford it. I don't appreciate wanton accusations, but I guess that's what forums are all about.
There's no character name in those logs so she didn't reveal her own alt. She's also not being that open about it because I had no idea until your post.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
Day: made.
For some reason I got the impression that you made a post that got flagged and deleted before Terra herself started posting logs.
If that's not what happened, and Terra was the first person to post logs of her alt, then it's more her fault than anyone's.
Tbh, I did nothing but skim about 5 words from the entire last page.
My favorite part is when you choose to read and quote only part of what others are saying, leaving out the part directly behind it, and then a few hours later you'll bitch at someone like Jarrod for "lying" about you to "make you look bad".
(you doing this sort of thing makes you look worse than anyone else could make you look)
You're all just rude.
Lol
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Holy damn
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/47ed8114
Ernam said:
To be honest it was kinda obvious you were Shecks. I figured it out with just you talking to me.
But to be fair the only reason Ernam knew about T's alt was because of someone in clan blabing it out to start with, Not knowing that she didn't make it public.
And ontop of that Jinsun and Strata we're raging in another clan and someone openly told them that X was T
I'm not going to pretend i've not accidently blabed out people's secret alts with out knowing it wasn't public. But I can honestly say i've never blabed anyone's alt out who didn't tell me not to. (And I live in Targossas everyone there is an alt)
But Accident's happen and you can't blame people for it.
Point is, if you want to keep a secret alt don't tell anyone who you're alt is.
Edit: For the record I did look back and see that she posted the logs before he said that. But im going off the assumption that he automatically knew she was T because someone blabbed it in an ooc clan to start with.
Also sorry for continuing derailing the thread.
yes
yeah bad timing
Put in a "stand" in the same alias as your duanathar. Woulda saved you there!
Is server curing supposed to have a 225-250ms delay on curing? I thought it was supposed to be simulated 30ms latency.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/7125716a
Been getting this pretty consistently.
Also, how do you copy/paste timestamps?
Server-side curing runs on a 250 ms tick.
Even if that were the case, you should see a range of near zero, to 250ms, on curing, for an average of around 125ms. Not a consistent 225-250.
Or are you trying to say that there's an intentional 250ms delay. If that's the case, then... I have to ask: Why? That's terrible. I'm not trying to be a pessimist here (because I actually like using server curing a lot) - but why intentionally cripple it? A large portion of the playerbase is running at 30-50ms, with the average being 60-80ms, if I had to guess. Why does [guy with fast internet] get to eat herbs every 1.525 seconds, but I can only eat them every 1.75 seconds (and find out about it 150ms later thanks to latency)?
If anything, server curing was designed and implemented for two types of people: Newbies, and people with unreliable/high latency internet. (but is of course a great option for anyone who wants to use it)
I'm definitely the second type - the main reason I use server curing is because my latency drifts between 250-400ms, and I frequently get 10+ second lag spikes and disconnections - so server curing is perfect for me. I come back from 5-10 second spikes while bashing perfectly healthy probably around half a dozen times an hour, at least.
But I don't get why you'd essentially cripple the target audience with dramatically slower curing, when one of the design goals of the system was to help those very people with that problem. Any word on this, @Makarios or @Tecton? I could understand if this is simply a server processing time issue, but if so, is that something we're working on? If not, is the delay something that you might consider lowering? (perhaps delay it less for people with higher pings?)
If I had to make a guess, this is probably intended to "balance" out the advantages of server curing (primarily its all-powerful anti-illusion capability). However, take it from me, it has a massive list of disadvantages already, without needing a quarter-second added to every sip, smoke, herb, moss, tree, and salve balance.
Server-side curing is, if I recall correctly, supposed to simulate 125ms latency, so cure times ranging from 0-250ms. I also think your predicted average of 60-80ms latency is grossly optimistic. You'll probably also need to factor in whatever latency is on your connection causing the output from server-side curing to be delayed; if you regularly have latency of 250-400ms then looking at timestamps probably isn't going to give you anything meaningful.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
Server-side curing is intentionally a slow "latency" of average 125 ms to make it not directly better than client-side curing, afaik.
@Dalran: Man, dem kai chokes :O