Combat Logs

Anedhel

Edit: Glad you figured it out!

Rakon

Vicious said:

Edit: Oh ra didn't break.. this was a bug I had problems with when I started an Infernal...so apparently it happens sometimes. ihdk

Not being able to count isn't a bug, it's a character flaw.

Sell ya a limb counter for 20cr

Vicious

nah, but I did use your mapping thing it was awesome!

Caladbolg

Texel said:

Dalerio, riding a shadowy sabre-toothed tiger, leaves to the north.
5689h, 3227m|100%m, 100%e, 74%w, ex, 6%, , cdbkr-
Mannimar has entered the area.
5689h, 3227m|100%m, 100%e, 74%w, ex, 6%, , cdbkr-
You may drink another health or mana elixir or tonic.
5689h, 3076m|95%m, 100%e, 74%w, ex, 6%, , cdbkr-(-151m, 4.7%)
Fen moves over to block the southeast exit.
5689h, 3140m|97%m, 100%e, 74%w, ex, 6%, , cdbkr-(+64m, 2.0%)
Your aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
>> Your action causes the nearly invisible magical shield around you to fade away. <<
I do not recognise anything called that here.
5689h, 2991m|92%m, 100%e, 74%w, ex, 6%, , cdbk-(smoke 392166)(-149m, 4.6%)
You take a long drag off your pipe. (6 skullcap left)
5689h, 2991m|92%m, 100%e, 74%w, ex, 6%, , cdbk-
An irresistible call draws you into an adjacent room.
A widening trail (road).
Snowflakes float down around you, colouring the world white. A rune resembling a volcano has been
sketched into the ground here (thurisaz: hits a person). A runic totem is planted solidly in the
ground. A sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular monolith is on the ground. Nose held snootily
in the air, a magnificent sheepdog stands here. A large black raven hops about. Flapping its massive
wings, a dire bat flies overhead. A roly-poly tiger cub romps around. The shining figure of a
guardian angel floats in the air here. A bloodroot leaf lies here.  Micaelis Bayt al-Azhan, Sefyric
Prince is here. Sir Ariye Draekar Rian, Knight of the Aarash Kheyr is here. He wields a Shield of
Absorption bearing the arms of Aurora in his left hand and a butchering cleaver in his right.
Caladbolg Van Helsing is here. His face is partially concealed beneath a raised hood. He wields a
Lupine bow in both hands. Sir Achilles, Knight of the Aarash Kheyr is here. He wields a Lupine bow
in both hands. Vice Admiral Avianca Shu'in-Crescent is here. She wields a ranger's bow in both hands.
You see exits leading south and northwest.




WAIT WHAT?

You got beckoned.. I don't think you ever realized what happened and thought your guys rushed our guys

Rangor

So what's the affliction potential for the different classes out there now?

As sentinel I got venoms every 0.7 secs on throw balance. Passive butterfly+lemming. + Darts if someone chases me. +targeted so limb breaks after 6-7 econds.

What's the serpent/occie/knight/apostate/shaman/alchemist affliction per second look like these days?

Jarrod

Artied serpent is capped at 2 afflictions every 1.8s + hypno + snake.

0 artied serpent is capped at 2 afflictions every 2.16s + hypno + snake. <- Assuming maximized Dexteriy with Icon @ 17. Without Icon 2.25s.

Jovolo

Serpent average: 6 afflictions/4 seconds.
Serpent w/ hypnosis: potential of 8 afflictions/4 seconds.

Occie with tfang: 7 afflictions/4 seconds.
Occie using instill: 6 aflictions/4 seconds.

Knight: 6 afflictions/4 seconds.

Apostate: 6 afflictions/4 seconds.
+spikes heavily in a ten second period if hunt and/or nightmare are usable.

Shaman: 5 afflictions/4 seconds.

Alchemist: 3 afflictions/4 seconds. With a tfang or torc it would be significantly more. Around: 5 afflictions/4 seconds, not including fluid.

I assumed fastest unartied attainable speed across the board for all classes. If you factor in darts, Sentinel should have the highest affliction rate, if you get a very fast handaxe. I didn't take that long to painstakingly work it out so feel free to correct.

Rangor

If only darts were could be activated at will like dagger.

Err... how do you figure knights/apostates can do 6 afflictions every 4 seconds?

Knight rapier dsls at about 2 second balance with nimble. Apostate at 2.x no?

Jovolo

0s: 2 afflictions
2s: 2 afflictions
4s: 2 afflictions

Apostate is 2.05/2.1 with nimble so I just rounded down.

Rakon

Avg DSL speed over 3254 Dsls:

2.76s

I'm getting shafted.

Jovolo

Handicapping yourself

;D

Rangor

Jovolo, that gives a really weird picture of how fast classes can afflict and can't be compared to what I put up for sentinel!

Rangor

So 

Sentinel: 0.7 pr afflict + stuff       (faaaast handaxe, can lock with impatience)

Serpent: 0.9 pr afflict + stuff       (hypno waaay deadly, can lock with impatience)

Occultist: ?                                  (can lock and hinder curing effectively)

Knight: 1.0 pr afflict                     (no extras, eventually breaks that lead to damage or vivi, infernals get frenzy for boost)

Apostate: 0.95 pr afflict + stuff    (can lock with impatience)

Shamans: 1.0 pr afflict ?             (Can lock with impatience)

Jovolo

That's literally what I put up there, except you reduced it to aff/second. It's easier to match it over a period of 2 to 4 seconds (or even up to 10, because of tree balance) because it's more comparable to actual balances (i.e. Shamans afflict once per 0.9 seconds, but Knights afflict twice per 2 seconds) alongside herb balance. When you break it down though, you're right, it's roughly a second per affliction.

Seftin

That's my jovolo #swoon

Dunn

OCCULTISTS CAN LOCK?

I kid, I kid. Can focus lock like a sick fuck.

Jinsun

Dunn said:

OCCULTISTS CAN LOCK?

I kid, I kid. Can focus lock like a sick fuck.

Teach me pretty please.

Dunn

Rixil. The answer is Rixil.

Jhui

Don't worry, Sents broken.  We all know it.  Sentinel just isn't accessible by the a-team so nothing will be done for a while.

Could be easy fixes too.

Dunn

quit city;quit class;agree;rf class admin;goto delos;ask certimene become sentinel;insert days of raiding here;clan acc tell HOLY FUCK WHAT THE FUCK?



; is my command line divider. It's why I never wink at anyone.

Rexia

Jovolo said:

Alchemist: 3 afflictions/4 seconds. With a tfang or torc it would be significantly more. Around: 5 afflictions/4 seconds, not including fluid.

Why is that exactly? You can only wrack after educe based abilities. I'm not even sure how you're getting 3 afflictions every 4 seconds. At the start of the fight you can manage 1 affliction roughly every 2 seconds, assuming you don't educe anything with a longer balance than wrack. Later in the fight with truewrack that goes up to 2 afflictions roughly every 2 seconds.

It's hard to see how a torc or tfang would help much unless they're significantly faster than a 2 second recovery time, and even then they'd have to be faster than a 1 second recovery time to beat out truewrack.

Sena

With a Thoth's Fang and nimble, you can fit 3 jabs in for every temper (~1.5s balance, about the same as wracking a specific affliction on a tempered humour), without needing any tempered humours first, and while doing damage and having a larger pool of afflictions to choose from. So the affliction speed itself doesn't change, you can just reach that speed faster and do more with it. That's 3 afflictions every 4.5 seconds.

I'm not sure on the details of the torc (or mind paralyse/stupidity).

If you inundate phlegmatic, you can increase your affliction rate (to 4 afflictions every 4.5 seconds, or 3 afflictions every 4 seconds), and tempering choleric or phlegmatic can slow the opponent's curing a bit.

Tharvis

all this talk about Thoth's Fang makes me wonder how effective occies/alchemists would be with Thoth's Fang (+ Asp) in a combat situation

Jovolo

It's 3 per 4.5 seconds with Wrack, technically 5 if you include truewracking tempered Humours, but with the latter you become out of sync with Temper balance, delaying fluid upkeep. A torc allows you to use mind stupidity at I believe 0.9 seconds (or 1 second, rounded). Combine that with Thoth's jab or Mind paralyse (1.4, maybe 1.5) and you can reach aforementioned affliction levels with no prep.

Jovolo

Tharvis said:

all this talk about Thoth's Fang makes me wonder how effective occies/alchemists would be with Thoth's Fang (+ Asp) in a combat situation

As we've said! Very effective. Both classes benefit greatly from a Thoth's fang as you can see from the extra affliction every 2 seconds (not to mention additional damage and limb prep possibilities). Without Asp - it's better to be able to select your afflictions than gave Loki.

Tharvis

Jovolo said:

Tharvis said:

all this talk about Thoth's Fang makes me wonder how effective occies/alchemists would be with Thoth's Fang (+ Asp) in a combat situation

As we've said! Very effective. Both classes benefit greatly from a Thoth's fang as you can see from the extra affliction every 2 seconds (not to mention additional damage and limb prep possibilities). Without Asp - it's better to be able to select your afflictions than gave Loki.

asp hides the venom message 1/3rd of the time though, so 1/3rd of the afflicts the victim won't even see

Jovolo

Asp won't take effect if the weapon has already been envenomed, so the affliction delivered via the 1/3 chance for Loki message is uncontrolled by the user unfortunately. It''s better to just not spend 750cr on it and select your afflictions yourself.

Cooper

Asp also afflicts with blind, deaf, both at the same time, delphinium, etc, makes it pretty useless

Jhui

might as well use a scorpions tail if you're going to use asp, 1.8 sec bal and always masked.

downside is blind, deaf, insomnia strip affs and smokeable/apply affs, and then the affs that have quick symptom messages to see what they are.

I've considered scorpions tail for lawls, but it seems way more unreliable that it's worth.

Antonius

If Asp worked the way Tharvis thought people would actually buy it, and it would be gloriously overpowered. Unfortunately it's total garbage.

I only know of two knights who have/had weapons with Asp: Xenomorph and Caine (with an e, not Cain). Caine's reasoning was literally "because it's available to buy."