Combat Logs

Antidas

Nemutaur said:

And this is how you almost cure Madness, my favorite kill of the evening:

http://pastebin.com/1TTV1Tyf

God i raged after that. I was one damn room away, but couldn't quite make it

Edit: also, stupid mamba. Was totally gonna force one of you to walk into guards

Rangor

Jhui said:

if you don't play defensively, bard, serpent, sentinel, and apostate could easily lock you in less that 23 seconds..

If anything lock classes are built specifically to destroy occultist because occultist does not hinder during it's execution.

Use paralysis better Tesha, bards can basically perma it...

edit: and by defensively, i mean offensive hinder as well

Sentinels can lock people in 23 seconds? :O

What am I doing wrong!

(or do you mean after all limbs are prepped and ready for breaking, and after you buy a lvl 3 dirk?)

Tesha

I think they mean 23 seconds as part of a chain, not from walking in the room with no prep. That is my issue with current occultist, but maybe I just need to get used to it. New stuff typically seems over the top at first, either in comparison or because you are not used to it. That being said, maybe it is too much. We will see! More logs to come, I am sure.

Jovolo

What are the requirements to use cadmus, and hecate? It looked like you stuck Cadmus within ten seconds of entry. It's not exactly reasonable to say you should have to play defensive - as you would against impaleslash (especially considering the real danger there is that you're also prepped, which takes a fair amount of time as a blademaster) - every ten seconds. Against a MOMENTUM class, that is. Of course, I don't know the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, having not been around, what are they?

Makarios

When the ACC were throwing around ideas for the Cadmus mechanic the general basis it worked under was that Cadmus would be the equivalent of getting kelp stacked (and that curing it properly would require pre tree before the Cadmus was afflicted). That is meant to be the first danger sign (think of an apostate hunting as a rough comparrison).

The issue that there is no additional defence method (rebounding/curseward/sileris) is a legitimate one, and something that we could definitely use ideas for. We could potentially require instill to break curseward, but it doesn't really fit thematically, and adding more abilities of that nature just as a mitigating factor is something better to avoid if we have alternatives.

Thanks for the log - it does help for us to see things in action so that we can get an idea of how things are going in practice. One thing I'd recommend is planning your treeing and such specifically with avoiding Cadmus in mind (as that's something we tried to work under the assumption people would start doing once they figured out how everything works and the curing was optimised).

Zeon

Momentum class should be able to kill you in under 20 seconds. Much slower and seems like something is broken.

Xli

Makarios said:

One thing I'd recommend is planning your treeing and such specifically with avoiding Cadmus in mind (as that's something we tried to work under the assumption people would start doing once they figured out how everything works and the curing was optimised).

Wrong assumption, @Makarios. The only thing to assume when changing how one classes skills affect another is that people who are negatively affected will immediately scream for a WAAAAAAAHMBULANCE!

Jhui

Rangor said:

Jhui said:

if you don't play defensively, bard, serpent, sentinel, and apostate could easily lock you in less that 23 seconds..

If anything lock classes are built specifically to destroy occultist because occultist does not hinder during it's execution.

Use paralysis better Tesha, bards can basically perma it...

edit: and by defensively, i mean offensive hinder as well

Sentinels can lock people in 23 seconds? :O

What am I doing wrong!

(or do you mean after all limbs are prepped and ready for breaking, and after you buy a lvl 3 dirk?)

psh, people try to play sentinel without level 3 dirk?

23 seconds is a long time, should be easily possible with poor curing and no defense, which is what we're basing on at the moment!

Jovolo

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

Dunn

Meh.

Chryenth

I read the last to pages and just thought 'Sen no sen, surely?'

... I think I may be doing too much karate. Except such a thing doesn't exist.

My point is, if you're attacking them then (as I understand it) the Occultist is question is going to be too busy dying/curing to enlighten.

/NovicePOV

Mizik

I think he means lv 3 knuckles lv 3 gauntlets maul-lock.

Jovolo

Jovolo said:

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

Dunn

Mizik said:

I think he means lv 3 knuckles lv 3 gauntlets maul-lock.

I'm gonna fight hard to get Sentinel made neutral just for you.

Jovolo

Jovolo said:

Jovolo said:

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

Sohl

Jovolo said:

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

Dunn

Sohl said:

Jovolo said:

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

No one really knows. We just spam afflictions until it works. Personally, I'm surprised no one has realized the buff to true name. It strips all defenses now like it used to back in the day.

Nemutaur

Sohl said:

Jovolo said:

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/comment/94203/#Comment_94203

Jovolo

Sohl said:

Jovolo said:

Jovolo said:

Jovolo said:

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

Nemutaur said:

Sohl said:

Jovolo said:

Jovolo said:

Jovolo said:

What are the requirements to use Cadmus and Hecate, and what do they do exactly? As I understand it, Cadmus causes you to be afflicted with phys affs when you focus, but that's as far as I know of it. Halp, thanks.

http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/comment/94203/#Comment_94203


Who the fuck do you think I am to disrespect me like that, you absolute novice. Bit defebsive, though, people. Kind of obvious why.

Tvistor

Nobody expects the Noobvolo inquisition.

Dunn

So didn't you already quit once for being a bit over the top? 3 affs for Cadmus, 5 for Hecate. Enjoy begging for the credits to change class.

Jovolo

What does that even mean?! (Lol) I should probably have asked elsewhere. All attempts at being constructive are beaten and violated in logs.

Iocun

Yeah, but occultists are still ugly.

Dunn

In case you missed it, I answered your question. 3, 5. Quick questions may have gotten a better response, though. This is troll logs, after all.

Fitz

Iocun said:

Yeah, but occultists are still ugly.

Your alpaca is ugly.

Tesha

Stop using insults I need to google. That is just rude.

Fitz

Tesha said:

Stop using insults I need to google. That is just rude.

Are you one of those people that stands around when I berate a novice, and then sends me a messaging saying "I don't know what half those words you said meant, but it sounds intimidating as hell!"

Also, moar logs!

Mizik

Mizik said:

I think he means lv 3 knuckles lv 3 gauntlets maul-lock.

Oh and by this I meant die in 4 mauls.

Remember that time I jumped @Santar in Dragonform as unartied Rajamala Sentinel at NoT and he died to just dbreak and mauls.

lol noob

Now maul is intense. Should bypass SoA, though.

Triak

Come on @Mizik , you know Caelan was the best sentinel of all time.

Hasar

This is what Magi v Magi degrades to. Sorry @Cahin! http://pastehtml.com/view/dewwkks51.html