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Bashing these elementals can wear on the nerves quickly from all the deaths. It is why I have been handing out credits to Hashani hunters for their work. It's the least I can do.
Though there is still more to this event, and i'm sure things will get more exciting with it.
Why the fuck would you willingly go fight Oberion, if it wasn't for a relic or honours line? You wouldn't.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
We didn't do our thing expecting an honours line or a city accolade at all, and I didn't do anything I did before expecting either of those. I didn't get anything for contacting Vigil first, Krypton got nothing for being the first to find the horn. Ashtan got an accolade because they almost single-handedly did air and were the first, Mhaldor got one because they did a bunch of planning and extra work that no one else (outside the admin, obv) helped with.
This is sounding a little hostile and toxic when it turns into 'how come the other people get things.' You guys can paint it as 'I'm happy for Kriex' alll you want but you don't sound happy for Kriex.
I didn't die 150+ times this event for honours lines specifically, either. When we all started hunting the things, there wasn't any information really available at all. We were all shooting in the dark. So to say we're only in it for lines is really disingenuous.
The complaints aren't that we didn't get anything. It's that we were forced into choosing a "young one", and he got an individual accolade. If that person was someone who had been integral to Targossas participation in the event, that's one thing. That's not what happened, though.
Several people spent hours and hours hunting elementals. Several people spent hours exploring and mapping everything so other people could navigate better. Yet, out of all of those people, the person who gets the visual reward wasn't even involved in any of that. Just happened to be there. Like Nazihk said, that's absolutely no this fault, and I'm happy that he had a great time. It's definitely a little bitter for the rest of us, though. Hell, Mezghar has died 20+ times, I would not have said anything at all if he was the one that got the thing.
Not sure how you can say that's hostile or toxic to say "damn that's kind of shitty to the rest of us". Has nothing to do with Ashtan or Mhaldor at all, but sure, if 2 cities that aligned got an accolade - why wouldn't the third expect the same?
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
I feel like this wouldn't even have been discussed if he hadn't gotten an hoonurs line. Let the novice have his shiny new honours line
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
Contacting the Vigil and finding a horn aren't as painfully annoying and boring as bashing elementals over and over and over. No one is suggesting that an honours line is needed for everything. I blew the tank that woke Jeramun, and found the tunnel that woke Bataoac. It's not like I'm complaining about those?
Once the first two cities who filled amphoras got neat things and accolades, it became somewhat of an expectation, which pushed us to keep going when we wanted to stop. It wasn't just the accolade either. You greet the Air Emissary and he's basically like "I'm in accord with the Seat of Chaos." Earth doesn't do anything like that.
Cyrene and Water is different because, unfortunately, Cyrene didn't actually manage to fill the Water amphora before Mhaldor did its own thing. Targossas did fill the Earth amphora, and while apparently we had more assistance from other cities than Ashtan did for Air, we still contributed the most cores. But there's no visible sign that Targossas was the group that made that happen unless you honours a random novice in our city and gather that he has an honours line because of our efforts.
If we did enough to get a newbie in our city an honours line, why didn't we do enough for an accolade, or for some kind of mention on greeting?
Still, pretty much everyone's bashing those elementals. It's not like Targ's doing this sacrifice of bashing elementals (which even I found entertaining, tbh, and I hate bashing too) and no one else is. Basically all 6 cities are bashing them.
From my pov, I didn't expect any city other than Ashtan to get a line. Mhaldor only got one through unorthodoxy, so in my mind it didn't imply anything at all for the remaining emissaries. If four cities get an accolade for this event and 2/4 (or 1/4, we don't know for sure) were just following the lead of the first one doesn't that make the accolades pretty pointless? It's like if we all got an accolade for fighting the tsol'teth.
I do agree that they could have Earth do something cool with Targ, though. Just like an earth guy going over and saying yo good job or the emissary acknowledging at least that a Targ newbie piloted Bataoac would be nice, yes.
You'll still get an events post mentioning it, though, I'm pretty sure.
Just saying, it never felt like this horrendous one sided awful never again mechanic /shrug
A few hours of one day is not a lot of time, though. If I had spent hours on one day bashing elementals, I wouldn't care as much.
There's no need for the Emissary to acknowledge that a Targ newbie piloted Bataoac, since he was the one who asked Targ to bring him a newbie to pilot it.
Anyway, we've probably taken up enough of this thread arguing about it. Agree to disagree.
A lot of us didnt mobilize to help the Emissaries until after Ashtan's show, especially because Air began to declare itself for Ashtan and Vastar. I recall asking all the cities at the time what they were up to, as they were rushing to fill Amphora. Their replies were very similar "Ashtan has aligned itself with Air, we cannot standby and not let our cities gain such a powerful ally as well". It made sense.
So Targ rushed to Earth. Cyrene was at first trying water. Hashan rushed to fire. Mhaldor...well Mhaldor was a bit of a mystery at the time, but in their own way they were rushing for water as well. Eleusis was still debating what to do.
I can see why Targ would be upset that after all that hard work, they didnt end up with something similar.
That all said. I am sure we will have more great opportunities to come. This event is only 50% over.
Was talking about your comparison to finding the horn again.
What a rollercoaster.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Roleplay this kid into some sort of saviour.
Train him into a PK beast.
Unleash hell.
Coming to you, Summer 2018.
Let’s be serious with our suggestions yeah?
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
You're so fixated on getting your own honours line that you don't seem to recognize the validity of others' lines or why they're exceptional. Ashtan took a risk when no one else wanted to, even after the Vigil's betrayal. Your novice got 'lucky', sure, but he also could've gotten eaten or whatever and he went along with it. That's no luckier than the people who got demigod in bal'met event, really.
Ironically, you accused Ashtan that they needed to step up to get their own things back when you deleted their room. Well, they did step up! They were leaders in this situation. I'm talking about Ashtan mostly here because I'm not trying to toot our horn, and that's like an objective third party.