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ETA: Like I said, I much rather prefer a big, angry denizen comes kick your ass if you're too frequent a flier in most cases! Just seems like it'd be a nice boost for the Marks. Also, you can defend areas, but afaik you can't really chase, nor can you gank someone after the fact for bashing in a spot, and a contract definitely lets you do that, so it's a neat little extra danger you can take upon yourself if you wanna hunt the biggest and the baddest.
They weren't particularly hard for people to handle (though multiple could come at once), but Achaea code seems capable enough to be able to tailor-scale the mobs to the level of the person they're hunting. Could also scale the amount/frequency with how many the person slays. That said, they could pretty easily kill people if they came after you while you were hunting another area, or if you were afk somewhere when they came. For some people it was enough to deter them hunting those places, and force them to find other places and explore... Although for others it just added more exp/gold :P
So why are they still here? o.o
After you reach a certain point in the leveling process, the number of places that don't have village feelings and still give anything resembling decent experience drops off. The grind from ~78 to ~90 is pretty rough as is. Places that give decent experience for this level range also tend to be popular hunting grounds. This will concentrate the number of people hunting 'non-contractable' areas, increasing competition for the now easier areas with good experience. This slows the leveling process, making it harder to achieve Logosian, and eventually Dragon.
Some people also forget that deaths at levels around this range take up more % experience than people around Dragon. For a Dragon, one death isn't that bad and can be easily recouped. For those around Logosian, the setback a death inflicts is much more significant. This is only increased by the above problem - to avoid further setbacks, you must recoup that experience from areas that either have higher competition or much lower experience. This leads to a "two steps forward, one step back" experience to leveling.
Finally, this disproportionately hurts people with fewer artefacts or invested lessons. Contracts, or even 'mini-boss' or 'boss' NPC's that pop out after enough villagers get killed, will be anywhere from very hard to impossible for someone without a serious investment in their character. People who can't afford artefacts or the skills to properly defend themselves will feel as if the rest of the game is rigged against them, and in favour of the people who can afford these things (at least, more so than it already is).
All in all, this is a really bad idea. It has an upside for a very small segment of the population (marks), downsides for the rest, and puts off newer players by punishing them for essentially playing the game. I get that Marks need some love, but lets not do it at the expense of the rest of the playerbase.
tl;dr - Decreases available hunting areas during the harder grind, introduces "two steps forward, one step back" mentality to leveling, and puts off players who have little to no investment in characters. Bad idea.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
I also think he raises some valid points, as did Nazhik before. This (specially in conjunction with player marks) will punish people people who go out to make gold or bash to dragon or whatever. The player marks have to do absolutely nothing, just wait until some poor idiot reaches the threshold and happily pound him or her down. At the very least, if things went this way, marks should have to actively and continually do something as well instead of just sit on their rears, just like people have to continually hunt to get 'hired' on.
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
These mechanics will put a significant portion of the playerbase off, plain and simple. All the IC justification in the world won't change that fact.
Player marks for this concept would be down right silly.
Tecton-Today at 6:17 PM
That seems to be a fair twist to the system, imo. It would be awesome to have Oberion come down to kick my ass for killing so many of his people.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
But seriously, in regards to @Penwize "what is the difference", PK is much harder than bashing, and if you are just messing around on Achaea socializing you still have a pretty good chance at defending yourself against a mob. If you haven't done work on a system you are pretty fucked if anyone decides to come kill you, let alone the people into combat enough to join mark.
If the primary goal is just to make it feel like depopulating villages has consequences, it would be better just to keep scaling their denizen attackers up.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
And why is this fun? It may be interesting, but if it's not fun, it's only going to make hunters angry and frustrated, and decrease their desire to play altogether.
How is that interesting or fun? Removing the player mark idea, why doesn’t Istarion, a well-built, sentient village do anything to the person? As a first time hunter, or first time in the area - it wouldn’t effect you.
This would effect the people that mow these poor villages down constantly, every other hour, with the barest of care in the world. I can hunt Istarion and barely even be threatened by their mobs, so I imagine plenty of others can as well. How is that interesting or fun?
Adding a bit of spice to a rote activity is well worth trying, even if it’s on a small scale with like Tir or something.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
if villages want to hire marks, then make it so all marks have to quest the village to fanatical first, that way the village WANTS to hire other adventurers
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