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We had a bunch of little ones, too, though, it's still not 'heavily skewed.'
The 1st attempt to raid Targ was not, in my honest opinion, heavily slated towards us at all (if you are talking about the one where we left after a moment because Targossas was conducting an event, I know of no other raid before the Descent one). It would've depended on how much of your QW responded before anyone could make a judgement call on if it was in favor - and since we departed before there was a response, that judgement call cannot really be made. There was certainly enough Targossians of a high enough caliber to eject us, and you had leaders capable of forming a defense force. You also weren't there if I remember correctly, so maybe you're referring to something else.
The Ashtan raid was a bit different. We got wiped with our initial entrance into the city, and brought a few more on the second entry. The second entry went slightly in our favor (we emerged with a few of us still alive at the end), which in my opinion it shouldn't have - a number of the Ashtani played more poorly than I expected, which made the fight more of a stomp than I thought it would be. Same thing occurred with the third, though by then it was fairly clear we outclassed their group at that point. None of these fights were complete stomps - they wiped us in the first, wiped about 2/3 of our group in the second, and 3 or 4 in the 3rd. I don't believe we outnumbered them at any of the engagements, but we did have a higher quality of fighters. Like I said, that surprised me, because I thought a fair number of them were competent group fighters. But I was wrong. Will try not to make the same mistake.
The Descent attack was griefy. I feel no remorse for the Targossians we killed who were regular defenders and were clearly part of the defense group in response to us, but I am sorry for the novices we killed. Admittedly I'm not sure why novices were seeking shelter with your defense group regardless - they could've just continued their business outside the city - but that's no excuse for our actions. There wasn't any rage involved in the decision though, I'm not sure why you think that. It was sheer boredom, which is far worse.
Cheers. If you have any further questions or are blinded by your anger, please PM me at your convenience. The experience of the people who defend against us are important to us so that they are more fun to raid. Have a good day.
Mezghar and Nazihk weren't a part of the defence afaik.
Tecton-Today at 6:17 PM
We had 10 people total and Mhaldor had 10 people total. Four of ours were 30% of my might or less and less than 20 years old, though. I was constantly fullsensing and assessing this to see whether we could conceivably rush, so these numbers are exact.
I'm not sure where Braver's name came from as he was never there. Karren did login mid-raid, but logged right back out. He couldn't stay. Nazihk was afk on a ship. Some of those names you have were probably people who left before you came there. Fullsense (after some time to group up and return to city, ofc) is the best indicator of who is actually there to defend.
These were the teams, with their levels and % of my own might (I was curious, so I actually looked them up):
Atalkez - 90% (dragon)
me - 100% (dragon)
Mezghar - 80% (level 92)
Baenor - 110% (level 91)
Aralaya - 80% (level 87)
Xandir - 75% (level 83)
Valonstrus - 15% (level 80)
Merio - 15% (level 79)
Alasiel - 25% (level 75)
Laodoke - 30% (level 71)
v
Syndra - 110% (dragon)
Crixos - 100% (dragon)
Saeva - 75% (dragon)
Chiam - 50% (dragon)
Iakimen - 110% (dragon)
Dragonknight - 105% (level 98)
Ismay - 95% (level 92)
Khadafi - 45% (level 79)
Thalyssra - 45% (level 79)
Naelrhi - 55% (level 79)
Our team was a lot more low-might-heavy and also a lot less dragon-heavy. I wouldn't really call these 'fair.'
When you have to ignore half your QW and start pulling out % numbers to show the teams are uneven it's not 'heavily skewed' imo. If those people all didn't want to or couldn't defend, sure, the teams are uneven. Certainly not maliciously or in any predictable way, though.
Considering we willingly sat people out and DK literally said 'I can leave if needed' (but was told not to because we assumed everyone was defending), it'd have been pretty simple to send an OOC message (to syndra or, eg, iakimen who's always happy to raid disadvantaged) you were missing all those people or something, too! The narrative that we're just bringing in massive numbers to purposefully stomp doesn't really hold up to reality
{City} is raiding you, will you fight? Y/N
Choose fighters
After you confirm, you can not add fighters and they can not take part, are you sure?
{City} is raiding with: A B C D E F G H
You are defending with: I J K L M N O P Q
Accept to begin the engagement!
Otherwise, people are going to assume on engagement #1 and redistribute and fix afterwards. Go in with too few and the element of surprise is gone, go in with too many and you don't get anything fun, just a roflstomp. It's something that actively takes a shot first to be able to show the target.
The other option is to just take 100% of who you can and damn the other side, but that isn't healthy for the game at all.
Do people not actually use fullsense, presences, pre-eminence...? I mean, once the defense group is gathered, it's pretty easy to see who our group is. You can't tell me Mhaldor didn't know who was standing in the Descent when they decided to come gank us there. I'm sure they used location abilities and saw. I'm not faulting anyone for coming into the city. I'm just saying they didn't leave, and chose to gank people who decided against defending instead of leaving.
It's all fine though. I don't why we hijacked this thread now. I just want to rant about the sanction change, not specific raids. I got distracted by people bickering about this, and my only point was that it wasn't even, not that anything terrible happened.
Mhaldor has been huge lately a lot of the time, and is dealing with some of what Targossas dealt with not long ago where we always limited fights and people yelled at us for being unfair anyway.
Dunn tells you, "I hate you."
(Party): You say, "Bad plan coming right up."
ps: Valonstrus did start a behead on Crixos so it was probably ok to kill him
Until people very quickly cotton onto to it and just say fuck it and not bother defending at all.
(this is the earring group)
Not the use of "big guns"
me waiting to earring in.
"Let's go show them how big our dicks are"..
---- "OMG IT IS TOO BIG"
"Seriously, it wasn't *that* big, I don't understand the complaints"
-- or --
"LEt's go raid <city>"
'Nah, I don't have time to defend and lawyer up the raid after the fact on forums.'
RAID DECLARE city
City does not appear to have enough armies at this time to defend the size of your forces. Please try again later.
COOLDOWNS
Raid: 14 minutes and 48 seconds
Wtf.
You detect nothing here by that name.
Oh, shit...
I farsee everyone on the who list to get an idea of likely responders before going in anywhere. Did it before I I had a veil and before the gem changes too.
It's 15 seconds for a QW of 15. It's not an onerous task.