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  • ArmaliArmali Posts: 1,041Member, Secret Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Atalkez might have more info on fighting in ret, but my understanding is that BM is a really poor ret fighting class because of how it's set up.
  • KadenKaden Posts: 435Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited November 2017
    Can switch to single strikes for afflictions. Not going to be brilliant in ret but not impossible either and BM has a sleep attack too.
  • NazihkNazihk Posts: 974Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Off the top of my head, I feel like your best bet in retardation, assuming you can't get out of it, is going to be something like voidfist into neck and then hope for an impale.
  • ArmaliArmali Posts: 1,041Member, Secret Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited November 2017
    The problem is that naked strikes are absurdly slow. IIRC, it's at least 2s, and might even be 3s. Balance slash -> strike might work. Hit with balance slash, immediately strike something on hit, immediately balance slash again on that hit, etc.
  • NazihkNazihk Posts: 974Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Wouldn't work anymore because you'd have to delay your strike by at least a second, and you can't delay a strike that long anymore. Was changed to stop the pommel->delayed knee->impale bullshit.
  • AlyxeriAlyxeri Posts: 467Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited November 2017
    Nylian said:
    Seems odd the answer is just to run for something with so little prep.
    It's not really any different from running from impaleslash, in terms of how easy it is, and how much the person using gains from them not running. Probably would be able to knees/impale off of the embed, honestly. Even with staff/embed arti.
  • NylianNylian Posts: 113Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited November 2017
    Alyxeri said:
    Nylian said:
    Seems odd the answer is just to run for something with so little prep.
    It's not really any different from running from impaleslash, in terms of how easy it is, and how much the person using gains from them not running. Probably would be able to knees/impale off of the embed, honestly. Even with staff/embed arti.
    I mean I get your point but I'm not sure I agree here. Dry impaleslash gives the BM nothing without the prep to back it up, and is trumped by both fly and smart salve management even if you are prepped. Also you can just run at any point that you have it with no hinder from the BM outside of hamstring.

    That said, thanks to your guys' help, I definitely could've handled my commands a lot better to get out of ret in the log I posted.

    Dry strikes are > 2s (like 2.2ish).  Couldn't do the delayed strike thing anymore.  I'm cool with BM not being super equipped in ret I guess, I don't mind running in a fight at all, part of the deal.  Maybe I'll just start flinging axes.
  • FarrahFarrah Posts: 1,945Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Alyxeri said:
    Nylian said:
    Seems odd the answer is just to run for something with so little prep.
    It's not really any different from running from impaleslash, in terms of how easy it is, and how much the person using gains from them not running. Probably would be able to knees/impale off of the embed, honestly. Even with staff/embed arti.

    Her eq is like .5 secs so I doubt that. Staff is meant to be OP though.

    BM is unusually terrible in ret, so I really would just leave and avoid it at all costs.
  • DunnDunn The great Buffalo tundraPosts: 5,955Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I avoid ret like the plague unless I'm a monk or got off a prevenom. 

    Speaking of, plague vibe in pre nerf retard still gives me nightmares. 


  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,699Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I’ll try to fight in try with dry strikes because I’m a masochist who don’t need no rules.

    (BM sux in ret, wtb COMBO for pommelstrike)


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  • KadenKaden Posts: 435Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Armali said:
    The problem is that naked strikes are absurdly slow. IIRC, it's at least 2s, and might even be 3s. Balance slash -> strike might work. Hit with balance slash, immediately strike something on hit, immediately balance slash again on that hit, etc.
    You can start your next strike before you regain balance. You'll get the move sluggishly into action message and the next action will go through as long as you regain balance before the delay finishes.
  • ArmaliArmali Posts: 1,041Member, Secret Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I know how it works. One aff at 2s is still really slow.
  • JonathinJonathin Retirement hole.Posts: 3,292Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Speaking of ret, it stops arrows. Does it stop thrown shit, too?

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  • KayleKayle Posts: 81Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Wait ret stops arrows from los?
  • ArmaliArmali Posts: 1,041Member, Secret Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Yes and yes.
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  • ElisellaElisella Posts: 114Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    What's the available affliction pool from Infestation?
  • ArmaliArmali Posts: 1,041Member, Secret Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Asthma, clumsiness, weariness, confusion, nausea, impatience, darkshade, at least.
  • AlyxeriAlyxeri Posts: 467Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Dizziness too, I think.
  • ReysonReyson Posts: 507Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Lethargy hypersomnia and sensitivity, as well, but I might be wrong about sensitivity. It's a big, big list. 
  • DevranDevran Posts: 548Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    So we have 2 levels of EQ artifact. 

    How gamebreaking would it be to have one for balance, even if only at the lower end of 7.5%, same as the level 1 EQ one?

    Not championing for it, just wondering how it would effect the game.
  • XadenXaden Posts: 2,315Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    It's hard to predict exactly how broken it would be but I'd guess somewhere between 'pretty fucking broken' and 'holy fucking shit, ouch, staaaahp'
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  • AlyxeriAlyxeri Posts: 467Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Devran said:
    So we have 2 levels of EQ artifact. 

    How gamebreaking would it be to have one for balance, even if only at the lower end of 7.5%, same as the level 1 EQ one?

    Not championing for it, just wondering how it would effect the game.
    You'd need to rework a lot of things, to be able to viably implement it without breaking pretty much everything.
  • MinifieMinifie Posts: 1,916Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    let's not add a balance version of the EQ gem please...


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  • KoganKogan Posts: 401Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    lol alchemist with rageblade and bal gem here I come!
  • NazihkNazihk Posts: 974Member @ - Epic Achaean
    The eq bonus artifact is a huge problem in and of itself, and I am fairly sure that the producers would remove it if they felt like they could get away with it.

    Ever look at the class list and wonder why there's damn near no pure-equilibrium classes anymore? Diadem. Can't balance a class around "Well, some people are just 15% faster at everything". 
  • AlyxeriAlyxeri Posts: 467Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Kogan said:
    lol alchemist with rageblade and bal gem here I come!
    just use mayology+rageblade
  • DochithaDochitha Posts: 1,283Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Devran said:
    So we have 2 levels of EQ artifact. 

    How gamebreaking would it be to have one for balance, even if only at the lower end of 7.5%, same as the level 1 EQ one?

    Not championing for it, just wondering how it would effect the game.
    Balance artifact, don't think is possible cos balance is widely used for herb afflictions, have to balance around herb balance else you get oplocks running around like Mindshell's crab.
  • DominiusDominius Posts: 116Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Do mutilated arms still hinder getting things out of the rift? And if yes, at what stage does it not anymore?
  • AegothAegoth Posts: 2,484Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    two broken arms does that. Don't need to mangle or mutilate
  • AntoniusAntonius Posts: 4,519Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You need at least one arm free to outrift, so any combination of broken (apply mending), damaged (apply restoration once) or mangled (apply restoration twice) on both arms is sufficient.
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