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  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaPosts: 6,276Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Nuts probably shouldn't be considered a "major" prize anymore.
    AustereCooperRoagnak
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna bePosts: 3,370Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Frederich that was an artefact vial, not a lucky vial.
    Huh. Neat.
  • FrederichFrederich Posts: 1,243Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Okay so.  40cr vial.  That still makes my statement no less about what it was.  
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna bePosts: 3,370Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Nicola don't suppose people who got lousy boxes from token spins could get their tokens back, eh? :>
    Huh. Neat.
    Roagnak
  • AsmodronAsmodron Posts: 2,568Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I'd -love- if I was able to buy someone's raffle tickets. Since it seems people are disappointed with them, I would happily buy it off them and make their day :)


    Give me my Khalas artifact

    Image result for crazy eyes



    BannMathilda
  • SenaSena Posts: 3,938Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Trey said:
    Antonius said:
    Caelan said:
    Then it isn't a 'gamble'.
    It's not supposed to be.
    I don't know why you're insisting that it shouldn't.
    Because of the difference in goals.

    RL casino (or lottery, or most any other gambling): The goal is profit. You want the total amount of winnings you give out to be less than the total amount your customers spend. So, when a customer pays $x to gamble, they have a chance of getting a lot more than $x, but on average they'll win less than $x, because that's the primary way you'll achieve your goal.

    Achaea: The goal is for the "gambling" to either be more appealing than credit purchases or to make credit purchases more appealing than usual, to encourage people to spend money. The two main ways you can do that are increasing the value or offering exclusive (not normally purchasable with credits) prizes, and most likely you'd do both. Unlike gambling money to win money in RL, there's no advantage in having the average winnings be less valuable than the amount spent. If customers consistently (or what looks consistent enough from a potential customer's perspective) get less value than they would have if they purchased credits instead, the promotion probably isn't working very well for achieving its goal.
    ShaydeAsmodronBadeFarrah
  • AsmodronAsmodron Posts: 2,568Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited February 2017
    Trey said:
    Asmodron said:
    I'd -love- if I was able to buy someone's raffle tickets. Since it seems people are disappointed with them, I would happily buy it off them and make their day :)


    Give me my Khalas artifact

    Image result for crazy eyes



    Wish granted!



    a miniature granite statue of Khalas, the Wanderer   -   25cr

    While any copy of this wonderous artefact remains in the inventory of a player, it will ensure that Khalas is never released from his stony prison.


    (I'd actually love a miniature of him >>)


    P.S: I think Sena put it beautifully concerning game gambling and IRL gambling.
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna bePosts: 3,370Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Asmodron I'll make you one for two hundred bajillion credits :)
    Huh. Neat.
  • AsmodronAsmodron Posts: 2,568Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Ahmet said:
    Asmodron I'll make you one for two hundred bajillion credits :)


    Your artwork is not nearly as refined to capture His true essence. hmph
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaPosts: 6,276Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Khalas puts on his robe and wizard hat.
    AhmetAustereAntidasSenoske
  • DochithaDochitha Posts: 1,343Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Agree with @Antonius this is not supposed to be gamble, and not supposed to be viewed as gamble. It's not zero sum (bad spin goes to reward someone else's good spin).

    It is a purchase from the game to gain something, it's a gain for sure. And that gain is set to be unexpected, for the thrill. It's a modification from direct credit purchase, to offer more fun.
    Borran
  • MindshellMindshell Posts: 269Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    To get an idea of the value of these things, I bought 40 boxes (1000cr) - opened 48 boxes for 6 talismans (4 wonders, 2 death), 39 ginseng, 14 goldenseal. It worked out at a 1/8 return on talismans to boxes, or 125cr spent per talisman. Details below, enjoy.

    The box now shows 1 Silon'ukia and 2 platinum whistles!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 cookie jar, 1 Gattan'bahar, and 1 Prioska!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 9 ginseng roots behind.

    The box now shows 2 platinum whistles and 1 Tizane!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 platinum whistles and 1 forsaken Ithin'urai!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 cookie jar and 2 Gattan'bahars!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 cookie jar and 2 Belladonas!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 Ziganas and 1 Silon'ukia!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 cookie jars and 1 Belladona!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 3 platinum whistles!
    With a satisfying click, a mechanical box fades away, leaving a talisman piece behind.
    You have been awarded with a ram's horn talisman piece!

    The box now shows 1 Prioska and 2 platinum whistles!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 Lord Sliths and 1 cookie jar!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 Lord Slith and 2 platinum whistles!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 soulfire crucible, 1 cookie jar, and 1 forsaken Ithin'urai!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 5 ginseng roots behind.

    The box now shows 1 Agith'tai and 2 cookie jars!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 war beetles and 1 skull!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 3 platinum whistles!
    With a satisfying click, a mechanical box fades away, leaving a talisman piece behind.
    You have been awarded with a globe's top talisman piece!

    The box now shows 1 Silon'ukia and 2 cookie jars!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 forsaken Ithin'urais and 1 Belladona!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 Terrin'tuuran, 1 Gerzson, and 1 platinum whistle!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 5 ginseng roots behind.

    The box now shows 2 forsaken Ithin'urais and 1 cookie jar!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 platinum whistle and 2 Zsarachnors!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 Ama-maaliers and 1 platinum whistle!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 Prioskas and 1 forsaken Ithin'urai!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 Asztriks and 1 cookie jar!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 cookie jar, 1 Agith'tai, and 1 Lord Slith!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 8 ginseng roots behind.

    The box now shows 1 Belladona, 1 platinum whistle, and 1 Terrin'tuuran!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 9 goldenseal roots behind.

    The box now shows 2 Terrin'tuurans and 1 cookie jar!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 3 platinum whistles!
    With a satisfying click, a mechanical box fades away, leaving a talisman piece behind.
    You have been awarded with backpack leather talisman piece!

    The box now shows 1 cookie jar, 1 Silon'ukia, and 1 bowstring!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 2 ginseng roots behind.

    The box now shows 2 cookie jars and 1 soulfire crucible!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 3 Tizanes!
    With a satisfying click, a mechanical box fades away, leaving a talisman piece behind.
    You have been awarded with "the brocade for a sycophantic shoulder cape" talisman piece!

    The box now shows 2 platinum whistles and 1 Terrin'tuuran!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 Gattan'bahars and 1 Prioska!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 war beetles and 1 Belladona!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 platinum whistle, 1 Tizane, and 1 forsaken Ithin'urai!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 10 ginseng roots behind.

    The box now shows 2 skulls and 1 cookie jar!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 Silon'ukia, 1 platinum whistle, and 1 gold coins!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a goldenseal root behind.

    The box now shows 1 platinum whistle and 2 war beetles!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 cookie jars and 1 war beetle!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 Terrin'tuuran and 2 cookie jars!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 Lord Kemnasts and 1 platinum whistle!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 3 cookie jars!
    With a satisfying click, a mechanical box fades away, leaving a talisman piece behind.
    You have been awarded with backpack thread talisman piece!

    The box now shows 2 Ama-maaliers and 1 Asztrik!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 2 skulls and 1 tombstone!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 3 Asztriks!
    With a satisfying click, a mechanical box fades away, leaving a talisman piece behind.
    You have been awarded with the legs of a cowled dummy talisman piece!

    The box now shows 2 Terrin'tuurans and 1 Prioska!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 Ama-maalier and 2 platinum whistles!
    With a dispondent groaning, a mechanical box fades away.

    The box now shows 1 Silon'ukia, 1 Tizane, and 1 cookie jar!
    With a discordent whine, a mechanical box crumples in upon itself, leaving a group of 4 goldenseal roots behind.


    Dochitha
  • FrederichFrederich Posts: 1,243Member @ - Epic Achaean
    >Gamble on a box...

    >To get a piece to gamble on a globe.

    The only thing I see worthwhile in that 1000cr is literally the brocade, which is worth about 300-400cr.
  • JhuiJhui Posts: 1,958Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    what does this line mean?

    The box now shows 2 platinum whistles and 1 forsaken Ithin'urai!


    does that mean you got 2 talisman pieces that could contribute to a platinum whistle?
    image
  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,790Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No it's like a spin thing, like a slot machine.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
  • JhuiJhui Posts: 1,958Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    ahh..so only way to win is matching all 3?
    image
  • FrederichFrederich Posts: 1,243Member @ - Epic Achaean
    You win a piece from the 'set' that is listed.  (Plat whistle is wonders, for instance).

    If you get 2, you get a consolation prize of 1/4th of a box to do it ALL OVER again.

    If you get none, you get 5-10 herbs for 25cr.
  • AereidhnaAereidhna DallasPosts: 675Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited February 2017
    I'm a bit sad that you can't buy spins with bound credits anymore it seems - I have like 300 credits piled up because I haven't been able to wake much lately, but I'm moving soon so I'm low on RL $$. If this is still a possibility and I'm just being an idiot someone please enlighten me!

    Edited: Duh, will try trading on market for unbound cr. Silly Aerei.

    More on topic - I hate talisman pieces with the fury of a thousand suns and really miss globes.
    Borran
  • NazihkNazihk Posts: 991Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Aereidhna said:
    I'm a bit sad that you can't buy spins with bound credits anymore it seems - I have like 300 credits piled up because I haven't been able to wake much lately, but I'm moving soon so I'm low on RL $$. If this is still a possibility and I'm just being an idiot someone please enlighten me!

    Edited: Duh, will try trading on market for unbound cr. Silly Aerei.

    More on topic - I hate talisman pieces with the fury of a thousand suns and really miss globes.
    I'm glad you can't buy spins with bound credits anymore because it's what enables the stupid crazy amount of spins people got in the past. You buy spins, you win or break even, you use those winnings to spin more, repeat.
  • AereidhnaAereidhna DallasPosts: 675Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I mean, I feel like if people want to shoot themselves in the foot by trading in arties for spins they ought to be able to do so. Gambling IRL works like what you said also - people use their winnings to continue gambling. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do so in Achaea except that admins aren't making money off of bound cr spins, so I can see why they removed them, but it is inconvenient to me as a player.
    Ahmet
  • SarathaiSarathai Posts: 2,139Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Aereidhna said:
    I mean, I feel like if people want to shoot themselves in the foot by trading in arties for spins they ought to be able to do so.
      @Datrius
    - (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place."
    - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
    - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
    - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
    - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."



    AereidhnaLiyaneCaelan
  • AereidhnaAereidhna DallasPosts: 675Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Totally speaking for a friend, I didn't trade in an artie bow, prismatic ring, and endurance ring last time around at all...nope, not me! 

    (But for real though, I learned my lesson, I swear. I just wanna use my shiny credits.)
  • TyrannisTyrannis Posts: 8Member
    I spun the wheel for the first time this Friday (after grinding butterflies for about an hour) and got some bound credits. :)
    KlendathuSkyeMathildaYae
  • BorranBorran Posts: 845Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I've spun 4 times... 1x Critical bonus, 3x Experience Bonus. 

    If I wanted more experience,  I would have bashed the hour I waited to spin.. 

    CaelanZahanSenoske
  • FrederichFrederich Posts: 1,243Member @ - Epic Achaean

    You deftly spin a large, prismatic Wheel of Fortune. It begins whirling rapidly, emanating a loud, clacking noise.

    You cease holding your breath and exhale loudly.


    You have recovered balance on all limbs.


    You inhale deeply and begin holding your breath.


    A large, prismatic Wheel of Fortune slows down to a halt, rewarding you with a prismatic token.


    You deftly spin a large, prismatic Wheel of Fortune. It begins whirling rapidly, emanating a loud, clacking noise.

    You cease holding your breath and exhale loudly.


    Iakimen falls before the unstoppable onslaught of a massive shadow dragon.


    Iakimen falls before the unstoppable onslaught of a massive shadow dragon.


    You have recovered balance on all limbs.


    You inhale deeply and begin holding your breath.


    A large, prismatic Wheel of Fortune slows down to a halt, rewarding you with artefact upgrade credits.

    You have received a raffle ticket!



    13 artefact upgrade credits and a raffle ticket  Yikesx2

    At least it was for free.

  • AsmodronAsmodron Posts: 2,568Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You holding your breath is what makes those logs for me :p
    EdenaCamrothPrythe
  • FrederichFrederich Posts: 1,243Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Yeah but I didn't get that from spinning the wheel.
    Vadik
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