Achaea (the planet), SCIENCE!, and you!!

Aegoth

our characters can fly, hold metric tons of shit, raise the dead, teleport across the world... and you guys are shocked that we walk faster than Usain Bolt?

Ahmet

Kenway said:

@Vallie you're forgetting dash and gallop for near-instant 5 metron travel.

@Kenway dash/gallop is one room more than the mhun with celerity. DW mhuns with celerity can move at the same speed as someone who is dashing. Sprint/dash is only 25% faster than her higher end estimate.

Krypton

And note that diagonal travel (through the wilderness) is an effective √2 speed increase.

Vallie

Aegoth said:

our characters can fly, hold metric tons of shit, raise the dead, teleport across the world... and you guys are shocked that we walk faster than Usain Bolt?

The funny thing to me is that if the 0g thing is true, then flying/holding metric tons isn't as impressive - but if we base @Krypton's and @Kenway's numbers show...I'm shocked we ONLY walk almost as fast as Usain Bolt sprints. We need more exercise

(Also my numbers are slightly off since I think 1 achaean month is actually 25 hours, so we're even slower than 67%!)

EDIT: IMPORTANT FACT: your character age x 0.241 is how old you are in dog years.

Kenway

Depths walker gets built in celerity? Jesus what don't they get? 

Krypton

Phase, sadly.

Sena

Krypton said:

How'd you get that?

A ship moving at 12 speed (12kts/hr) moves about 1 metron/sec. (I'm just quickly approximating for an example.)

So that's 150 metrons in an Achaean "hour" (2.5 real minutes).

12 · 1852m / 150 metrons = 148m in a metron

I have no clue how I got that.

When I actually calculated it, the answer I came to was 231.5 metres. I have the log from 2009 when I did the testing/calculation and sent someone a tell with the results, so it was definitely 231.5m.
53.6km didn't come from those calculations directly, it came from an old forum post where I previously shared the results of my calculation. Somehow, when making that old post, 231.5m became 53,592m. It wasn't a simple (if rather extreme) typo or forum glitch of some kind, because I also gave the equivalent in feet. I'm kind of stumped on what happened there.
Edit: Nevermind, it's current me being an idiot, not old me. The forum post I referenced gave the area of a wilderness room, in square metres, not the length in metres. 231.5^2=53,592.25.

So anyways, I actually calculated one metron to be approximately 230m.

Nicola

This thread is amazing, it might be the best thread this incarnation of the forums has seen. Keep going you crazy people!

Krypton

Sena said:

So anyways, I actually calculated one metron to be approximately 230m.

That's a ship speed of 19 kts/hr being about 1 metron/sec, sounds about right!

Skye

Aegoth said:

our characters can fly, hold metric tons of shit, raise the dead, teleport across the world... and you guys are shocked that we walk faster than Usain Bolt?

Although, this does make you wonder about fighting in the wilderness... Those arrows fly pretty far and accurate don't they? >>

Asmodron

Sarapis said:

This definitely made me chuckle, and is some nice work! Couple things though:

1. That picture of Sarapis is a piece of art, not a map. It's kind of roughly showing what the world looks like (it's based on a map of the world I shared with the artist) though it does look roughly(!) accurate-ish to my map. You can see Bandar Selat and Bandar Selam sitting there in the middle of the ocean east of Meropis and the continent of Palariel south of Meropis. However, my map is probably not particularly accurate either.

2. An ocean square represents a distance MUCH longer than 100 meters. How long exactly, I don't have any idea, so I'm not much help there, but far, far longer than 100 meters. 

Sarapis said:

Vallie said:

OR, the current continents in Achaea are just one part of the world

Correct! Sapience and Meropis aren't even two of the bigger continents in the world. There are six main continents and some islands that are big enough that some might refer to them as a continent, mistakenly. 

We intend to have the other continents finished by 2080.

What doors you have opened O.O

Shirszae

@Sarapis Out of curiosity, is there anything at all you could share about those continents? In terms of inhabitants/customs/anything really?

Krypton

And more importantly... Is a forums post canon enough to go on Wiki?

Camroth

Kenway said:

Yeah, this

Oh snap is that a moon? We need an Achaean space artefact program so we can check that baby out. Also how come nobody ever mentions that giant wizard in the sky always staring at everyone. Talk about big brother.

Krypton

Camroth said:

Also how come nobody ever mentions that giant wizard in the sky always staring at everyone. Talk about big brother.

Bal'met violating the Fire Behind the Flame has freed us from this tyranny, don't worry.

Camroth said:

Oh snap is that a moon? We need an Achaean space artefact program so we can check that baby out.

(Hashan): Ourania says, "No free non-lethal trips. One should experience it as a whole."

(Hashan): Ourania says, "It is not a holiday resort, My Hashani, but who am I to deny the will of My 
citizens."

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Drave meets a chilling end 
amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Rispok meets a chilling 
end amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Vaxarn meets a chilling 
end amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Kaitali meets a chilling 
end amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Shirszae meets a chilling 
end amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Lupe meets a chilling end 
amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Lupe meets a chilling end 
amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

(Hashan): Ourania says, "Did I miss any?"

Iridescent shards of ice glimmer throughout the triune rings of Achaea as Xai meets a chilling end 
amid the craters and canyons of the moon.

The blinding white light fades as your surroundings come into sudden focus.
The Lunar Shift.
The calm, serene sense of empty space imparts a moment of perfect peace as pinpricks of light 
illuminate the heavens from the dusty surface of the moon. Craters and canyons shatter the land, 
shards of broken rock jutting upwards and glistening with crystalline fractures as layers of dusky 
debris linger across the endless horizon. The vague twinkle of grey-hued rings can be seen in the 
distance, throughout the endless expanse of space, as a planet slowly rotates within their embrace.
The twisted remains of Drave lie here. The twisted remains of Rispok lie here. The twisted remains 
of Vaxarn lie here. Bustling with energy, a rambunctious ferret rollicks about. There is a small 
pile of golden sovereigns here. The twisted remains of Kaitali lie here. The twisted remains of Lupe
lie here. The twisted remains of Xai lie here.  The soul of Drave roams the land, bodiless. The soul
of Xai roams the land, bodiless. The soul of Kaitali roams the land, bodiless. The soul of Vaxarn
roams the land, bodiless.
There are no obvious exits.

You grasp frantically at your throat as you gasp pathetically for air and find nothing but thick, 
choking dust, kicked up in great clouds around you as you attempt to flail and struggle with rapidly 
freezing limbs.

Spastic convulsions overwhelm your rapidly cooling, oxygen-deprived body, generating blinding pain 
with each wild, uncontrollable motion.

You open your mouth in a noiseless scream as trails of vapour exit your body from every orifice, 
freezing you from the inside out.
You stiffen as icy fingers clench around your heart like serrated blades as it slows, and stops.
You have been slain by wrath of Ourania, Goddess of the Moon.

Asmodron

Really makes you wonder what life is like on those other continents, and if there is even civilizations. We need an invasion clearly (and not by those dirty tide tsol'teth)

Liyane

Asmodron said:

Really makes you wonder what life is like on those other continents, and if there is even civilizations. We need an invasion clearly (and not by those dirty tide tsol'teth)

Or... we could be the invaders for once.

Valaria

i find it odd that atavian and dragon couldnt fly across the sea that they could on the continent. mhmm.

Asmodron

Liyane said:

Asmodron said:

Really makes you wonder what life is like on those other continents, and if there is even civilizations. We need an invasion clearly (and not by those dirty tide tsol'teth)

Or... we could be the invaders for once.

Near impossible for that to work. An invading army is a unified force, usually under a select ruler, monarch or governing council. Sapience is divided and split amongst the orgs, with each fighting for themselves and against one another. The only time they unify is when there is a big threat, and it isnt very long after the threat is handled do they split ways again. There is no way the people of sapience could ever try and invade a land. At most the 'city-states' could perhaps do small skirmishes upon an alien land against the inhabitants there.

Sarathai

Asmodron said:

Liyane said:

Asmodron said:

Really makes you wonder what life is like on those other continents, and if there is even civilizations. We need an invasion clearly (and not by those dirty tide tsol'teth)

Or... we could be the invaders for once.

Near impossible for that to work. An invading army is a unified force, usually under a select ruler, monarch or governing council. Sapience is divided and split amongst the orgs, with each fighting for themselves and against one another.

Make the new continent(s) XP-rich and declare a Great Hunt while opening a portal to said continent(s).

Observe the fury of the dragon host as it descends upon them with a terrifying unity of purpose.

Ahmet

And then close the new continents 1 hour later with no announced re-opening and no way back except death, just so all the explorers shit themselves.

Frederich

Watch as people phase to look at named mobs, dragons skimmying around said named mobs with terror and intrigue.

New named mobs that patrol areas, are stronger than the Quisalis Grandmaster, and also happen to see phased folks a la Gattan'bahar and drag them out of phase by reaching their hand out and chokeholding them into the air.

Before brutally snapping their neck one handed.

Kyrra

Valaria said:

i find it odd that atavian and dragon couldnt fly across the sea that they could on the continent. mhmm.

It's fascinating that you brought this up because the original Atavians that originated from Azatlan used Transoceanic Orbs to cross the seas. While the Orbs allowed them to make the crossing safely, they were still susceptible to the predators of the Skies.

I can't wait for the day where we get to visit Azatlan and experience everything first hand. Will Lord Vastar have a third temple there?

Ahmet

Kyrra said:

Valaria said:

i find it odd that atavian and dragon couldnt fly across the sea that they could on the continent. mhmm.

It's fascinating that you brought this up because the original Atavians that originated from Azatlan used Transoceanic Orbs to cross the seas. While the Orbs allowed them to make the crossing safely, they were still susceptible to the predators of the Skies.

I can't wait for the day where we get to visit Azatlan and experience everything first hand. Will Lord Vastar have a third temple there?

@Kyrra he already does.

Klendathu

Ahmet said:

Kyrra said:

Valaria said:

i find it odd that atavian and dragon couldnt fly across the sea that they could on the continent. mhmm.

It's fascinating that you brought this up because the original Atavians that originated from Azatlan used Transoceanic Orbs to cross the seas. While the Orbs allowed them to make the crossing safely, they were still susceptible to the predators of the Skies.

I can't wait for the day where we get to visit Azatlan and experience everything first hand. Will Lord Vastar have a third temple there?

@Kyrra he already does.

We know, the Farethi have been there as part of their induction to the order. More rooms you haven't explored @Ahmet

Antonius

Kenway said:

Depths walker gets built in celerity? Jesus what don't they get? 

Depthswalker celerity is an active ability rather than passive benefit; I don't recall exactly how it works though. They currently don't have a real line of sight ability (the Terminus one has a longish cooldown, so won't come close to killing anybody alone), resurrect or a way to prone (though this one will be addressed as part of this classlead round, I believe).

Asmodron

Antonius said:

Kenway said:

Depths walker gets built in celerity? Jesus what don't they get? 

Depthswalker celerity is an active ability rather than passive benefit; I don't recall exactly how it works though. They currently don't have a real line of sight ability (the Terminus one has a longish cooldown, so won't come close to killing anybody alone), resurrect or a way to prone (though this one will be addressed as part of this classlead round, I believe).

While their Terminus ranged ability had a somewhat long cooldown and low damage, it did have the benefit of being on its own balance. Shooting with a purchased bow and using Bahar lightening was a great ranged combo. Not sure how it will work with changes. That aside, the class is pretty potent as is, I would rather they not become kings in other fields.

Antonius

That's only a benefit if you have an artefact bow, which isn't a class feature. Bahar on its own was pretty irrelevant; I could cover the damage from one DW using it on me purely with regen (while uprooting a totem). I definitely don't think the things they're lacking that I listed need to be addressed, except the ability to prone, though.

Iniar

What happened to the math.

Ahmet

Also pretty sure the DW line of sight can hit around corners, as long as it's within 3 rooms.