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Itinerant Bazaar #1-4 April-May 2016

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  • KezKez Member Posts: 646 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Yes. I did.
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Kez -- resale depends on the seller. Skarash, myself, you (if you're still collecting), and several others are pretty well known for being collectors of and "dealers" of rare/unique/one of a kind items. So those of us who keep a continued stock of such items will price a little high not for the profit, but it actually keeps the items around longer. For us, most of the items just sit for a long while meaning they're not bringing in money for rent or taxes, but they continue to exist while a large amount of the rest of the similar items are either left to decay or made non-decay/resetting. Eventually that leads to us having items that become pretty rare, but are still available to newer players farther down the lines instead of them basically going out of existence. I also tend to start by pricing a little high to keep the items around, and then altering it from there, usually going cheaper and cheaper over time. I'm also pretty open to people sending me tells or messages to haggle for things (I think it says so on the shop sign). There are those sellers who will resell for high for immediate profit, because they don't consistently deal in the rare items market and you can tell this by the types of shops they run or if they're just selling straight from their inventory. But for me, the only real profit I'm making is from the inks and tun sales, not actually the rare items.  :p
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

    KezHalos
  • KiskanKiskan Member Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited May 2016
    I've been there for the newer bazaars.  An improvement for sure, but it's still insanity once you're actually there trying to buy.  Mainly because the game is big enough that even the o dark thirty bazaars are going to have the text equivalent of a screaming mob trying to trample each other.  And some of those people are probably trying to pick up an extra item or two for a friend, as several people have mentioned.  It's still been decidedly crazy.  

    There would have to be a total shift (which is not going to happen) for bazaars to ever be the least bit fun for the players who just want to spend their time kind of strolling through a market.  I've accepted it, but I am saying that I do feel incredible pressure to buy quickly (even if that is inconceivable to you that someone could be so dumb and slow), and it sucks all of the fun out of it for me.  

    EDIT:  everyone's experience is what it is, so even if the bazaar is really, really working for you, I guess don't be super floored that others have exactly the troubles they say they do with it, and mean exactly what they say when they say "this is unfun and stresses me the hell out".
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Kiskan oh absolutely. I think Bazaars are cool and enjoy the items. The only part about them I dread is the sheer insanity and speed of it. Like one reason I don't care to do combat is the speed of it, so big shopping event on fast forward x1000 stresses me out, but not enough to prevent me from trying to go. I always have a big sigh of relief when it's over. Although Bazaar #2 and #3 were a lot less stressful than the first one, either because I got used to it or already had an idea of what was there.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

    Kiskan
  • KezKez Member Posts: 646 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Yeah. My big profit is cooking, though I have one shop jam-packed with collectibles and overflowing into another shop (even trying to sell the pumpkin bags themselves from the journal attempt mentioned before). I don't consider the list price to be the actual price, but a barrier to people who aren't collectors*. I've always been encouraging of people who want to make an offer on something they see in the coyote and willing to come down by half the list price or more depending on who it is. Knowing that it's going to someone who wants it instead of someone who wants to sell it can drop something from half a million to five figures.

    I tend to put interesting things in a shop and, as they sit there, my affection/interest in those things goes up or down and the price adjusts accordingly. I still adore and can't yet part with my hourglass, though several have attempted (three different people have offered 250-300 credits). I don't know why I don't just either get it resetting already or accept one of the ridiculous offers.

    *Barrier to people who aren't collectors thing: It's a real pain in the ass but people who aren't serious about it will often buy something because they can afford it and then go nah, and send a message wanting a refund. I try to be an all-sales-are-final hardass but more often than not I'll give them their gold back, even though they've made the item start to decay. When it costs upwards of a quarter million gold, they think harder before buying and it almost never happens.
    Kayeil
  • KiskanKiskan Member Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Totally, exactly, Kayeil.  And you are not going to make both groups of players happy here (especially not the ones who feel more strongly one way or the other).  It's always nice when you happen to line up with what gets done, but it's not always that the other side's wants are totally invalid. 
  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,797 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kez said:
    Yeah. My big profit is cooking, though I have one shop jam-packed with collectibles and overflowing into another shop (even trying to sell the pumpkin bags themselves from the journal attempt mentioned before). I don't consider the list price to be the actual price, but a barrier to people who aren't collectors*. I've always been encouraging of people who want to make an offer on something they see in the coyote and willing to come down by half the list price or more depending on who it is. Knowing that it's going to someone who wants it instead of someone who wants to sell it can drop something from half a million to five figures.

    I tend to put interesting things in a shop and, as they sit there, my affection/interest in those things goes up or down and the price adjusts accordingly. I still adore and can't yet part with my hourglass, though several have attempted (three different people have offered 250-300 credits). I don't know why I don't just either get it resetting already or accept one of the ridiculous offers.

    *Barrier to people who aren't collectors thing: It's a real pain in the ass but people who aren't serious about it will often buy something because they can afford it and then go nah, and send a message wanting a refund. I try to be an all-sales-are-final hardass but more often than not I'll give them their gold back, even though they've made the item start to decay. When it costs upwards of a quarter million gold, they think harder before buying and it almost never happens.
    Who offered you 250cr for the hourglass? I've got one.

  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Kez I think one thing I forgot about the profit part besides not really making rent or taxes is that it's actually money out of our pockets having the items sit and wait for the buyer who has a true interest and will contact you about it. I'm not sure how much I spent on this Bazaar, but that's money I can't spend on something else because I spent it on these items and it could be years before I get it returned from the item's sale. It's not the easiest Achaean business strategy, but I think those of us who do it just really do it for the love and respect of the items. Because of that, the lack of income doesn't bother me, and I just substitute it with other things.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

    Kez
  • KezKez Member Posts: 646 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited May 2016
    Sorry, I don't say the names of people I deal with! If they see your post they may be in touch?
    I doubt it though. Since then two of them have gone dormant and the other has gone pauper.
  • KezKez Member Posts: 646 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited May 2016
    It just hit me. The thing that stops me from getting things I love to resetting. I hate doing that and then the item is re-released either temporarily or permanently. I got a deck of playing cards in a bazaar and very shortly after that they became a permanent fixture in casinos (one of which was identical even to the deck I bought), which left a very bitter taste in my mouth.
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kez said:
    It just hit me. The thing that stops me from getting things I love to resetting. I hate doing that and then the item is re-released either temporarily or permanently. I got a deck of playing cards in a bazaar and very shortly after that they became a permanent fixture in casinos, which left a very bitter taste in my mouth.
    Yeah  I was little surprised they re-released the spiritboards, hourglasses, and whistle jars. Those and the playing cards were all before my time, but I was around for the re-release of the spiritboards and stuff. I don't mind so much the minipets being re-released, but kind of odd to do with the rare items even though there's some I'd LOVE to have again. The first Bazaar I ever went to was as a novice when they had those things with the ruby red sand. Wish I still had one. I was too new and didn't have the resources to keep the items so some decayed, but I think Skarash ended up buying a lot of what I had on me (thankfully) so they weren't all gone to waste. That's the only time I didn't quite understand the rarity of the Bazaar and the items in it. Luckily I still have one of the mounts from it, though!
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

    Kez
  • DortheronDortheron Member Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited May 2016
    You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Sit with me."

     Klohee blushes as she joins you and sits down.

    You have emoted: Dortheron bows his head down, muttering a small incantation that you can't understand.

     You have emoted: Dortheron snaps his head up, his normally golden eyes glowing blue.

    You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Thus by the power of these runes, I cast out my net and snare a glimpse of your future, Klohee!"

    The sound of clattering stones resonates in the air as you give a rough sack of carved rune stones a vigorous shake. You loosen the drawstrings of a rough sack of carved rune stones and cast its contents across the ground.

    Your keen eyes pass over the cast stones before spying your first rune that has landed face up.
     Closer observation reveals that it is an inverted Fehu symbol.

    You shift an inverted Fehu rune stone to your right and carry on searching for your next symbol.

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "INVERTED FEHU!"

    Your keen eyes pass over the cast stones before spying a second rune that has landed face up.
    Closer observation reveals that it is an inverted Laguz symbol.

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "INVERTED LAGUZ."

    You slide an inverted Laguz rune stone over to join an inverted Fehu as the middle of the casting layout, before carrying the search for your last symbol.

    Your keen eyes pass over the cast stones again before spotting a third and final rune that has landed face up.

    You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "UPRIGHT ISAZ."

    You move your final rune stone over to complete the arrangement, taking up a position to the extreme left.

    Your final three rune layout stands as an upright Isaz, an inverted Laguz followed by an inverted Fehu symbol.

    You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Your future is overall negative!"

    Klohee says in a soft-spoken, demure voice, "O-oh."

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Wait...the details are coming to me...the meaning of each rune..."

    You have emoted: His eyes flinkering from the blazing blue down towards their normal shade of gold, Dortheron mutters softly, searching for words to express the shapes that the future of each rune holds.

    You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Fehu, inverted. Laxity. Laziness, Complacent. Dullness, Draining, Failure. Cowardice, corruption, over-indulgence."

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Your search for the easy way will end badly, stricting you when amibition and hard work would set you on the right path."

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Laguz, Inverted. Reality, mortality, confusion. Madness, divorce, suicide."

    You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Bound by the confides you have made for yourself because of your laxity, you will be conflicted both physically and mentally."

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "This will ultimately lead in the destruction of self."

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Isaz, upright. Inspiration, spontaneity, electrifying, creativity."

     You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Before your end though, you will reach a place of brillant thought. Your confusion and madness will breed inspiration and power in others."

    You have emoted: Dortheron eyes completely empty of all eerie light, returning completely to it's natural glow of warmth.

    You say to Klohee in a deep, almost purring voice, "But this future is not set in stone or blood. This is only a fumbling of what may come to be."

    Klohee sadly says in a soft-spoken, demure voice, "S-scary.."

    You say to Klohee in a deep, almost purring voice, "You are the font of your fate. You will choose your path and the results...this is but one possible telling."

    You clasp your hands before yourself, face Klohee, and perform a simple, respectful bow.
    You say in a deep, almost purring voice, "Thank you for participating!"
     Impromptu roleplay with @klohee using the sack of runes. I think I'm going to really enjoy this prop, especially when I don't have the manuscript resetting back to the library mid-way and I have to bug someone to give me the quick meaning of the runes

    Edit: Somehow I screwed up and ended up with a shit-load of spoiler tags. Hoped I fixed that
    You know, that one thing at that one place, with that one person.

    Yea, that one!
    AnaidianaQwynAereidhna
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna beMember Posts: 3,370 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Fix your goddamn spoilers <3
    Huh. Neat.
  • SarathaiSarathai Member Posts: 2,139 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Too many spoilers, didn't read.
    - (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place."
    - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
    - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
    - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
    - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."



  • DortheronDortheron Member Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Lol, I did fix it, you just had to wait 5 minutes! Now you can actually read it
    You know, that one thing at that one place, with that one person.

    Yea, that one!
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Dortheron -- just make a copy of it with Mydoin in New Thera.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

    Halos
  • SkyeSkye The Duchess BellatereMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 3,054 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    There are still items from the last bazaar on sale in shops. So yeah, reselling isn't entirely an issue. I thought this bazaar was very well run. They carried far more stock than they did before, for one thing, and the raffle was fun even though I didn't really want the mount that was being offered, I still bought a ticket each time.


    ShirszaeMelodieDariHalos
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    vial217641 a carved fir vial                               3     550gp
    statue422254        a statue of Catarin deSangre

    And that's it from Bazaar #4!
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,797 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Still looking for a set of statues, hit me up folks! Can't have a proper richly appointed estate without things to appoint it with.

  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna beMember Posts: 3,370 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Trey said:
    Still looking for a set of statues, hit me up folks! Can't have a proper richly appointed estate without things to appoint it with.
    It's a shame I just sold off a full set of four. :(
    Huh. Neat.
  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,797 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You dick. You knew I was after them and my propensity for outbidding people. :(

  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I got a sack of runes and a huge kick watching 40 people put selfishness up after I cobbled together a super shitty pickpocket illusion. In a divine safezone.

    No regrets.
  • YaeYae Member Posts: 307 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    That was really rude! :bleep_bloop: Some people just don't try to be mean to find out.
    Art commissions are closed! I am (practically) dormant.   :s
  • NakariNakari Member Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Out of curiosity, would anyone be willing to share the descriptions of the statues? I'm curious now, with how popular they ended up being.

  • YaeYae Member Posts: 307 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited May 2016
    a statue of Castomira Brangwin

    Burnished brass perfectly reflects both nobility and wickedness in this lofty statue of Castomira Brangwin. 

    This statuesque form of Castomira Brangwin stands proud and tall, a paragon of perfection cast from brass. A combination of haughty nobility and otherworldly beauty, the intricate details of the woman's finery are dulled and faded by the harsh hand of time, but do little to quell the gleam of wicked Tsol'teth cruelty from her set of flinty black eyes. The historical sculpture regards her surrounds with a perpetual, self-satisfied smirk and stands with one hand raised in an oddly challenging gesture.

    a statue of Parni deSangre

    Depicting the final moments of the Seleucarian Empire, a statue of Parni deSangre stands here. 

    This statue is carved from a single block of pale grey ash, evoking the dying moments of both Parni deSangre and the Seleucarian Empire itself. With a gaze combining fury and finality, the Man in Grey tightly holds the Staff of Nicator, twisting and buckling as it works to transform into a terrible manifestation of his will. Each arcane rune that runs along the length of the Staff is recreated with intricate care and accuracy, despite its status as a wood-carved imitation of the original. Black singe marks lick the edges of this ash-wrought figure, the only embellishment of the legend depicted in the midst of a powerful undertaking.

    a striking statue of Lucaine Pyramides

    Streaks of crimson draw attention to this time-worn statue of Lucaine Pyramides. 

    Ravaged by centuries of exposure to the elements, this time-worn statue captures the mysterious ferocity of Lucaine Pyramides who stands proud and tall, defying the world with the posture of a seasoned combatant. Yet, the wounds upon his limestone frame depict a situation much more dire: the warrior-poet grasps the hilt of Three Moons with a scarred hand, while the other lashes out in a precise motion at his surroundings. Streaks of crimson mar the handsome features of the ill-fated Lucaine, who stares at his invisible attackers with the empty gaze of a blinded man but clad in an iron determination to fight to his dying breath.

    a statue of Catarin deSangre

    Staff held at the ready, a statue of Catarin deSangre stands here. 

    Carved from a single, massive block of marble and worn smooth by weather and age, the steel gaze of Catarin deSangre remains in the fine details of this statue's face and eyes. Long locks of hair swirl around her body as though captured at the tail of a spin, even as she stands with broken blade outstretched and the Staff of Nicator gripped tightly behind her. Though muted in lustre, citrine highlights along the staff's length wreathe it with the impression of an immense inner power.
    Art commissions are closed! I am (practically) dormant.   :s
    NakariShirszae
  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,797 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Would be curious at the dropped descriptions too if anyone has them.

  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,084 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited May 2016
    Man the last statue sold in less than 15 seconds, which ended up prompting me to have to buy one for a ridiculous amount! Less a complaint directed anywhere and just a general gripe. But glad I managed to finish the collection for sure.

    This has definitely been by far one of my favorite bazaars, item-wise. The mounts weren't overly tempting for me, but obviously that's just a difference in taste (and not meant in any way negatively). The denizens were very interactive/entertaining, which I loved (and felt a bit bad because everyone's just rushing around and buying and not chatting so much, until the end), there was a lot of stock (besides the statues which is the general idea of them), something basically for everyone. And best of all, any bugs that popped up (I ran into a few that broke some things, oops) were fixed quickly!

    Was a lot of fun, thank you for all the admin who spent so much damn time making all of the items and doing all of the crazy that must be involved with this (four different set-ups, jeesh!). You guys are awesome. :)

    Edit: Dropped descs for Trey! Castomira's is my personal favorite, for dropped anyway.

    Burnished brass perfectly reflects both nobility and wickedness in this lofty statue of Castomira Brangwin.

    Depicting the final moments of the Seleucarian Empire, a statue of Parni deSangre stands here.

    Staff held at the ready, a statue of Catarin deSangre stands here.

    Streaks of crimson draw attention to this time-worn statue of Lucaine Pyramides.
               My wing tips waltz across naive
                     Wood floors they creak
                  Innocently down the stairs

                          Drag melody
    My percussive feet serve cobweb headaches as a
              Matching set of marching clocks
                The slumbering apparitions
              That they've come to wake up
    TahquilTrey
  • MarisellaMarisella Member Posts: 170 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I am happy to have gotten all four statues, and an extra set of hairsticks. If I had more money and time, I would have bought a kraken figurehead for fun and maybe more perfume beads. Now I know why people spend credits non-decaying these kind of things. It would be a shame to see them decay.
  • GarisGaris OhioMember Posts: 25 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Seriously, well done to whomever worked on the items this bazaar. @Kaiu and I both think your all work really shows through with some really neat items.
    Yae
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna beMember Posts: 3,370 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Anyone figure out how to un-transform the decks?

    I'll be posting the descriptions for each look whenever I get my hands on the last two.
    Huh. Neat.
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