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Best PvP Class?
Hey all, so last night I took my first shot at some real PvP by skirmishing with Targossas. My character looks like this:
Kohai Kygo, Ashuran Tiger (male Human Man-at-arms)
You are level 76 (Archmortal) and 98% of the way to the next level.
Health: 3468 / 3568 Mana: 3243 / 3423
Endurance: 16666 /16740 Willpower: 14460 /14460
Strength: 15 Dexterity: 12 Constitution: 13 Intelligence: 11
So yeah, I'm not that tanky yet, and definitely have some more health I could get by leveling. But my question is, where does Runewarden stand regarding the best class for PvP? Don't really have any interest in changing Houses, because I love the Ashura, so then my next question is -
Bard Vs. Monk Vs. Blademaster Vs. The four Runewarden Specs... Which one offers the most potential for successful PvP -unarted-?
If it's Runewarden, what specialization, and why?
Now if you through artes into the mix, what does that change?
Thanks. Hopefully I will not continue to be rekt by Targossas for long (Went 1 for 6 last night)
So yeah, I'm not that tanky yet, and definitely have some more health I could get by leveling. But my question is, where does Runewarden stand regarding the best class for PvP? Don't really have any interest in changing Houses, because I love the Ashura, so then my next question is -
Bard Vs. Monk Vs. Blademaster Vs. The four Runewarden Specs... Which one offers the most potential for successful PvP -unarted-?
If it's Runewarden, what specialization, and why?
Now if you through artes into the mix, what does that change?
Thanks. Hopefully I will not continue to be rekt by Targossas for long (Went 1 for 6 last night)
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Their team ability is sub par.
I'd say they're more along the lines of 'par' at worst.
Their damage is okay, because they punish sip. Over time. Damage being their best option for teaming, I'd still take either of the other three specs for damage in a match up.
Without having a way to affect their fracture output, their most useful effect is curare/lethargy spam.
It's a great 1v1 grind class and los arrow soaker tank in raids.
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Telling someone that it sucks at teams isn't really accurate.
Jesters can't actually do anything to kill people in groups. Which is why people don't like to play them. It's a pure support class.
But hell, all we use priests for is beckon and support and we got tons of em!
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Imo there is no best class exactly, Play what you want learn how to play it and enjoy it. Knight specs may be a little weird atm. if your looking for group combat Bard is likely going to top the list but you'll die first all the time.
Monk is good all around.
Snb is also pretty good as you can throw out afflictions, Use impale and do the high damage impale/stun if a legs broke into dsb. i'd say good all around-er
Blademaster is an amazing class that doesn't need artifacts. Also one of the tankiest classes in the game (all around wise), Limited mainly by lack of range, it's still good in groups and 1v1 alike, mostly a support class in groups though Multislash is kinda meh, impale is much better than knight impale (assuming they don't have broken limbs)
Dual cutting is likely pretty good as well, never get tired of dsl.
I would say stick with snb personally, it's a great beginner class, it has Disembowel setup, and affliction setups. which if you get a good understanding on helps alot with other classes and understanding them if you decide you dislike it in the future. You get a bow which will allow you to fling meteors and shoot arrows. with some pretty good synergy with other classes as well, also you have a damage route that's still pretty decent and hindering
For the record as well most attacks in Achaea are based on a % of your hp with smaller base damage. I've always been told around 4k hp is the minimum of where you want to be.
Blademaster close second to Jester for 1v1 strength, for very similar reasons. Slightly more avoidable offence though.
Best support PvP class is either Priest or Jester. Priest for the ranged/melee ally Healing, Shielding and Health Regen (A massive like, 28% every ~2.8 seconds) means that if you have two or three in a team of 5+, they become very hard to break through just doing basic defensive work. They have huge offensive potential now too. Remember fighting against Gerwulf and Jaelyth in a group? Now imagine fighting them if they had a similar amount of artefacts/lessons as you. If you add a Monk or something to a Priest group it becomes hell to fight.
Jester for obvious reasons: Tarot, Mickey, Juggle affliction speed is faster than cursing, etc.
Raid utility probably between Monk, Occultist and Priest.
Tankiest PvP probably Monk or Apostate.
Blademaster is a pretty good class, but it's bad against certain classes.
I think the majority of oh my god this class is better than x class comes from the current meta of what classes are we all playing right now. for instance Serpent can lock classes in 5-10 seconds with out fitness/shrugging (at least when I was serpent) The current "meta" of Achaea is knights mostly understandably because of the changes, but in general classes with fitness are typically a more common sight than classes with out it in the combat world, (not counting serpent cause shrugging awesome)
So for instance while Paladin was kinda meh before knight changes with Damnation being nearly impossible to pull off, if the target didn't have fitness it was a cake walk.
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For the record, if your new to pvp combat I've always found losing a victory too. If you die, ask your self why did I die. How can I prevent dying to that in the future? looking at logs and asking others is a great way to turn the tide the next battle. and while achaea combat is complex you'll get there if you just keep trying
Unless of course you get 5 man ganked and instantly blow up then just scream and everythings okay.
No, it isn't =P. It's just less OP against some classes.
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Do Jesters use more bombs than throw dagger than fashion? Or Dagger more than anything else? I have heard shield stops most of Jesters' offense (except puppet)...
The doll prep vs limb prep timing aside, Jester can also time/drop bombs while prone.
This should get adjusted in the next round of Classleads hopefully, but anything that requires timing (impaleslash, disembowel, bbt, axek) can be stopped by a set of properly timed web/concussion bombs while prone.
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But, that's what I've heard from more experienced Sentinels. My skills are far from Trans (balancing between Metamorphosis, Woodlore, Skirmishing (all 3 are very useful in combat)) and I'm able to get kills against those 100-200% my might with skullbash and lacerate (the only ways I can kill right now)
Woodlore is useful with the animal companions (haven't tried having more than one), traps, and noose (just found that, had gotten killed by a Serpent with noose before, dunno how to escape).
Skirmishing is pretty much the combat skill set for Sentinels, all skills are useful (If you're lucky, scythe is crazy awesome).
Metamorphosis cause having animal spirits is awesome in itself, and all of them (Some in combat, others everywhere else) are useful, and once you Trans it, also has great ways to kill.
I need more skills and combat experience for this to have any real credit, however. Like I said, my skills are far from Trans so a lot of this are my own guesses from watching fights and thinking about it.
That being said, how good is Necromancy? Thinking of trying Infernal with an alt, but if Necro isn't good, going with a different knight class. Want massive and shiny armour.
Personally, I find runewarden to be the most brutal of the knights.