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Do you ever read what people write?
Let me help you there, buddy.
@Cooper yes.
If you're going to insist on trolling me on a daily basis, I'm going to have to ask that you do it better.
Unless you're the runelorist. It was pretty clear he was talking about non runelore, and clarified further by stating it works vs adventurers if you have runelore.
> Just to clarify, can't dform and have algiz help you against adventurers. In dform it's also just denizens even if you are a runist in lesser.
Maybe in theory but its giving me around 10% lesser 7 or 8% dform at the moment. Possibly bugged
It's gotta be bugged. Priest can't keep their blessings through Dragonform which is totally stupid. Then we just have to find someone to bless us.
Why is this stupid? Reducto absurdum: monks should still keep weathering, toughness and all other class "fire and forget" abilities when drgonforming, tarot users can fling pre-charged cards when in dragonform. Dragons used to have class abilities instead of dragoncraft, it was a big No.
> Yeah. I had no clue if Algiz functioned the same in dragonform. But you keep the rune, and for the runebind duration, if you have the ability.
If that's the case, priests should be able to keep their blessings. Both runes and blessings can be used by any class.
IMO, -nothing- class related should be usable or carried over in dragon, in the interest of fairness and dragon class balance. Also, the last thing in the world dragon needs (as a class) is even easier access to more damage mitigation.
Sent by Meletus
5/07/23:42 Greetings! In regard to issue 68658, algiz will no longer work vs adventurers in dragonform, regardless of that dragon's lesserform class!
Now everyone stop talking.
That's not what people were talking about at all.
It's the difference between runing yourself in lesser and dragonforming (you keep the runes), and Priest blessing yourself in lesser and dragonforming (you don't keep the blessings). Personally I don't like Priest blessings, more buffs you can give to allies is a bit obnoxious to deal with, especially factional ones (and the implications they cause in fights later that don't have those priests in them).
Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
The conversation devolved into how its not fair that runes stay but priests blessings don't. And the fact that people were saying it's giving a buff or supposed to continue to do so. Now the world is clear that it doesn't help you in dform (for adventures) and that it's "fair" again. Miss information bugs me and the forums are a breeding ground for it. Trying to stop it in the womb.
(It's called empower, right? Gods I suck, played an Alchy alt for over a year and can't remember the damn ability name)
Empower persists through dragonform, both on alchemists and people they give it to, last I checked
You lose priest blessings when you dform but keep blessings when you lesserform. The alchemist astronomy thingy stays with you when you dform and lesserform until you die/burst (and I assume mog or soulcage).
Pipe changes are awesome, Now if I can just find a way to abuse pipe balances with damnation..
I would personally rather all class-based defences be stripped when you dragonform, but would settle for consistency. Either all stay or all go, in my book.
in dform:
Azaxel touches you with her withered finger and an agonizing sensation ripples through your body.(-807h, 11.0%)
You smudge the algiz rune off yourself.
Azaxel touches you with her withered finger and an agonizing sensation ripples through your body.
(-867h, 11.8%)
Now everyone keep arguing.
Bug it, cause it's a bug of the bugging kind.