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New heartseed is 11 seconds?
How much damage does it do if cured with damaged limbs and does it scale with the amount of broken limbs?
Can you thornrend/swing staff yet? - what's the overall balance/eq on this?
Thanks.
- Seems strong IF the damage is at all significant.
- otherwise you can fake apply legs, cure broken torso + heartseed and then legs when they thornrend torso. If the damage is high, it gets more difficult
blind.
deaf.
has a partially damaged right leg.
ablaze.
plagued by the rapid growth of a heartseed.
afflicted by unbearable shyness.
bleeding for 158 health.
sprawled on the ground.
The remedy burns through your chest, eliminating the spreading tendrils of a virulent heartseed.
As the seed withers, your damaged body is wracked by spikes of pain.
You may apply another salve or balm to yourself.
(-744h, 10.7%)
This is all the data I have for that. Dragonform, 6967 health, one broken leg, no miniskills beside philosophy, no magic/fire resist rings (not sure what kind of damage it is).
You can swing staff when they have broken leg, without a diadem the balance/eq seem around the same but I haven't tested extensively.
Each limb (including head) broken increases the damage, so 4 limbs is 4x as much as 1 limb. Doesn't scale to intelligence. Crippled doesn't count, mangled doesn't increase the damage over broken amount, just counts as broken.
Setups that are really, really hard to avoid dying to are ok, if they are really, really hard to set up. I think the ease to setup vs ease to avoid ratio on heartseed is one of the highest in the combat scene right now (that I've seen, anyways). Personally, I haven't seen the damage aspect of heartseed really matter, but that might just be because people don't bother trying to damage me out. As far as the ratio thing goes, I think that the setup could be tweaked to make it a little harder to do, or make it a little easier to prevent. In general, limb damage prep setups are wholly a lame excuse for combat complexity, and are all entirely too easy to setup across the board (with the exception of vivi). I would like to see more things like Darkshade/lightwall and blademaster's bleeding insta-kil, which require actual curing skill and strategy to both use, and counter. Not just a bunch of shielding and rend/combo/dsl/staff prepping until they essentially have fashion-whored their way to kill setup.
As of now, when I see that a monk and/or sylvan has my limbs prepped, and don't have rebounding up, I just leave. They basically have a fully charged death tarot, and are waiting for you to walk in so they can push their kill button and watch you die from fully cured/full health. Since there is literally no way to stop them from slow prepping their way to this scenario, they only thing that stops people from doing so would be psychological strategy (tricking them into thinking they're about to win so they don't shield) or a sense of sportsmanship on the part of the sylvan/monk. Since those are apparently both pretty rare, I'd say: re-read my idea for shield tattoo, since it breaks combat against prep classes (when used excessively). Other than that, for people who love to toggle between prepping limbs and spamming shield/rebounding, just don't fight them. The only way you can win is if they make an offensive play error. If they don't, you are guaranteed to lose.
On the limb damage point? As I just argued, Sylvan finisher is not a win button. The odds of avoiding it are stacked in favour of the victim, unless Santar has something he'd like to add in regards to 'killing anyone in the game inless than 60 seconds'.
I don't have time to continue, but yeah.
@Jovolo : Your Silas-like inability to read any idea or thought without basing its quality on anything other than the name of the person who posted it is annoying.
I know there are trolls, and I know there are a dozen people who instantly WTF my posts without even reading a word of it. I don't post to win your, or their, approval, so please stop reminding me of your unphasable, permanent disapproval. I already know you disagree with this post, so don't bother saying so, k?
edit: Couldn't resist: You're wrong about both Jarrel and Vaehl, not that how long you've been a class means anything. I'd really like to hear @Iocun 's take on the shield thing, though. Also, have you considered that you just made the argument that if the allegedly 3 best serpents in the game (Vaehl...?) don't have a problem with something, that it is balanced. You're wrong about that, and wrong that they don't have a problem with shield. @Strata is one of the best serpent fighters in the game, ever, and his strategy against shield preppers is: Leave.
I disagree with your posts not because of who you are, but because you are wrong. I may have developed an inability of patience towards addressing your points, and for that, I'm sorry.
Provide some points that aren't: 'I can't do it therefore it's imbalanced' and people will start to listen to you.
@Xith - Why did you wtf my previous post? I can provide you with examples of why you were wrong if you like.
I m not sure where this conversation is going, but I'll give my 2 cents about shield vs serpent.
With most people once you figure out their priorities it is a very simple matter of getting them locked taking into account their shield on snap or whatever. Serpent is mostly timing based anyway and you're fighting systems and not REALLY people as it is quite hard to hinder a serpent unless it's built into your class general attacks (eg. occultist)
The problem occurs when you fight someone as defensive as Tirac, who will shield every 2 dstabs, shield if you flay sileris, till it's back up, use fitness as a defense randomly (I understand you cannot do this anymore) in combination with fitness classes needing more afflictions for the complete lock (The hardest part being sticking an affliction that can be focused or herb cured). His offense is not momentum based whereas yours is, locking someone like this is possible, but generally not worth the trouble on a risk vs benefit basis. Most other people are quite easy to lock because you know when they will shield and you just have to plan in advance to have everything stuck and to have a method of delivery of the last crucial venom or affliction that bypasses shield (if necessary, not necessary in most cases).
While I have fought Tirac a couple of times and lost everytime as a serpent, I realised that he will never fight on your terms, (will not let you build any momentum at all), like he wouldn't fight me as a monk with the ashura icon mostly because he knows there's a high chance he would lose so why should I try and fight him on his terms? Just walk away, no point 'duelling honorably' when the other player holds all the advantages and plays to those strengths because even though on the surface it looks 'honorable' it is fairly questionable as to if it really is.
Also: Couldn't resist, but what makes you the world authority on who is or is not a good serpent, Shecks? Considering you haven't unlocked even 20% of the class' true potential.
Imu, @Jarrel bear.
Imu come back Serpent Jesus.
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