Quick Questions

Sena

It seems likely that at least some Achaeans know the planet is round, since it would be difficult (maybe impossible) for navigating with a sextant to work otherwise. That doesn't necessarily mean it's common knowledge though.

Nakari

Given that we always refer to the rings around the planet as rings, I feel like the knowledge is getting spread.

Iocun

Sena said:

It seems likely that at least some Achaeans know the planet is round, since it would be difficult (maybe impossible) for navigating with a sextant to work otherwise.

But it is difficult to navigate with a sextant!

Jonners

We also have these cool gods that can tell us things, it's amazing how much information about such things They have and are willing to share..

Ourania

Ships, the moon, tides, stars, Sarapis holding a huge ball of world. I would expect it to be known, but if characters agree or not is the fun of debating in game. I've not had the argument of the world is flat for some time, but then I just kick them to the moon to admire the view (and let it speak for the world being a sphere).

Chryenth

Called it.

Sylvance

Ourania said:

Ships, the moon, tides, stars, Sarapis holding a huge ball of world. I would expect it to be known, but if characters agree or not is the fun of debating in game. I've not had the argument of the world is flat for some time, but then I just kick them to the moon to admire the view (and let it speak for the world being a sphere).

Yep, all, I appreciate that literally all the pieces of the puzzle are there, but then how long did we have tides and ships on Earth before figuring it was a globe. Was more just wondering if it was common knowledge amongst adventurers. Thanks for all the answers though, they all made me smile

Eld

Sylvance said:

Ourania said:

Ships, the moon, tides, stars, Sarapis holding a huge ball of world. I would expect it to be known, but if characters agree or not is the fun of debating in game. I've not had the argument of the world is flat for some time, but then I just kick them to the moon to admire the view (and let it speak for the world being a sphere).

Yep, all, I appreciate that literally all the pieces of the puzzle are there, but then how long did we have tides and ships on Earth before figuring it was a globe. Was more just wondering if it was common knowledge amongst adventurers. Thanks for all the answers though, they all made me smile

Probably somewhat more than 2000 years between the development of seafaring ships (something like 3000-2000 BCE) and the realisation that the Earth was a sphere (proposed by philosophers ~600 BCE, but not really established solidly for a couple centuries after that, I think, and with the first measurement of the circumference around 240 BCE). But the early Mediterranean cultures hadn't been to the moon, or had contact with multiple other planets, which probably makes a difference. You may be happy to know, though, that Eratosthenes, who is generally credited with the first measurement of the circumference of the Earth, was Cyrenian. 

Naisar

Wikipedia says China was still in the dark until the 17th century.

Arditi

Half tempted to start a cult that says that the Baelgrim Fortress is the exact center of a flat world.

@Nizaris, let's do this.

Rispok

Aristotle figured it out by the shadow on the moon in a lunar eclipse.

Nizaris

@Arditi: I know that you're joking, but in all seriousness ... sounds like something that should be taken in-game, or at least, in a different thread than this one. Nizaris already does stuff like saying that Sartan is the one-true-God, will refer to other gods with lowercase "g's", etc. I have no problems with Mhaldorians expressing racial superiority.

Tvistor

Hahahahahaha.

Sylvance

Q: who would win a flame war out of Tvistor and Xenomorph?

Tvistor

I concede to Xenomorph's insanity.

Tesha

Tvistor's fans would gank Xenomorph so bad.

Mishgul

Xenomorph can't be ganked. You might as well gank the ground.

Mishgul

Even this ganking of the ground ended unsuccessfully

Chryenth

I always tell my students, never fight the ground. The ground always wins.

Tesha

How many lessons in weaponry is shatter?

Santar

I think shatter is either fabled or mythical on the dot. Either fabled or mythical is a dead level of the skill, not sure which.

So either 900ish or 1300ish.

Sidonia

I believe it's at mythical but it's been a while since I learned it last.

edit: Just checked. 99% certain it's mythical, that's where I stopped learning weaponry, no reason I'd stop there if it wasn't at shatter.

Santar

Sounds like convincing enough evidence to me. Fabled must be the dead level then. I think all the other skills come on a skill level change.

Arditi

If I recall, Decapitate comes at an odd mark between Parrying and Envenom. It's not -right- at Gifted.

Eld

And envenom is between Gifted and Expert. With 9 abilities and 12 skill levels, they can't all match up but one.

Taraus

Does anyone have info on harpooner trait, and/or know what the increase to accuracy actually is?

Sena

Lashes have much higher speed. The only time you might want an artefact whip instead is if you need the higher accuracy, otherwise a lash is far better. They're basically a properly-priced replacement for the whip of taming, since it was changed to be unusable with garrote.

There's no forged equivalent.

Hegua

Does firelash damage scale with increased Elementalism?

Iocun

Sena said:

Lashes have much higher speed. The only time you might want an artefact whip instead is if you need the higher accuracy, otherwise a lash is far better.

I can't check the numbers right now, but I remember something like a level 1 whip being better than a level 1 lash, dps-wise, while from level 2 onwards, the lash wins hands-down. Of course, level 1 whip/lash are both still worse than a lot of the forged whips you can find for quite cheap in many shops, so there's rarely a good reason for buying them. Still, I guess if you wanted an artie whip/lash simply for the convenience of the non-decay, but couldn't afford a level 2, a level 1 whip would be a valid option.

This of course also assumes that you're at a level where you aren't critting overly much. The higher the crit rate, the more useful the lashes become in comparison to the whips.

Sena

Iocun said:

I can't check the numbers right now, but I remember something like a level 1 whip being better than a level 1 lash, dps-wise

 A level 1 whip gives marginally better DPS (1-2 points higher), but the lash is 0.4s faster.

I agree that it's not worth buying a level 1 of either except for customisation/non-decay, that's true of any forgeable weapons.