League of Legends

Kresslack

Darius got allll da jungles. 

Borran

Anybody play that wouldn't mind playing with a level 14? Shoot me your Username and I'll add you.

Cynlael

Oh god. The terror that is pre-30 games. I would if I weren't so horrified of those people.

Tharvis

Cynlael said:

Oh god. The terror that is pre-30 games. I would if I weren't so horrified of those people.

"HOW PLAY?"

Cynlael

Funny tactics can work, though. Like everyone hiding in the top bush and waiting for the inevitable facecheck of the top laner walking to it to wait there, instead of just going to stand in tri-bush or something

Borran

I'll be lvl 30 in no time. see you all soon.

Goggo

this thread needs more Udyr

Mishgul

Borran said:

Anybody play that wouldn't mind playing with a level 14? Shoot me your Username and I'll add you.

Hey @Borran add mishgul

Rangor

Hey @Borran add "achaea rangor". Yes, that's me.

Tecton should pay me for advertising achaea on LoL. I even had a guy tell me he used to play achaea after seeing my name.

Kresslack

So, got together with the usual suspects tonight. Played Garen top for the first time in  looong time against Irelia. That was annoying since she has a passive life steal.

Then felt like playing Yasuo ( so much fun), and decided to mid him:

Twas a good night.

Cynlael

Whyyyyy would you get SOTD on Yasuo Q_Q

MR boots + Statikk Shiv Rush and win (or armour boots, if they dont really have CC) lead into IE, LW, GA and BT - typical ADC build.

Rangor

Played Alistar support with a fiora top and Yasuo mid. Teamfights was me walking in and knocking everyone up, followed by instant Yasuo and Fiora ults melting enemy team.

Borran

Rangor said:

Hey @Borran add "achaea rangor". Yes, that's me.

Tecton should pay me for advertising achaea on LoL. I even had a guy tell me he used to play achaea after seeing my name.

I like this idea... I might change my name to something achaean

Kuy

I play league sometimes.

Koma xo

All my old league friends stopped playing

Kresslack

Cynlael said:

Whyyyyy would you get SOTD on Yasuo Q_Q

MR boots + Statikk Shiv Rush and win (or armour boots, if they dont really have CC) lead into IE, LW, GA and BT - typical ADC build.

You don't build a lot of ad items for Yasuo, you  build attack speed an crit. SotD = 100% crit and attack speed for 3 secs when activated. Pop your ult, activate. GG.

Cynlael

Kresslack said:

Cynlael said:

Whyyyyy would you get SOTD on Yasuo Q_Q

MR boots + Statikk Shiv Rush and win (or armour boots, if they dont really have CC) lead into IE, LW, GA and BT - typical ADC build.

You don't build a lot of ad items for Yasuo, you  build attack speed an crit. SotD = 100% crit and attack speed for 3 secs when activated. Pop your ult, activate. GG.

Yes... You build crit... Statikk Shiv and IE... You might want to read his passive if you think SOTD is good on him <_<
I'd like to see you convince anyone that building AD on a M-ADC is a bad idea. (PS. In case you're lazy. His passive gives him 2x the amount of crit you have, hence Shiv and IE is all you need. It's also 100% crit/aspd for 3 attacks. So you're wasting about 2s of a passive, when you could just use that slot for a LW or BT for sustain / more burst.


SOTD is good on like... Twitch and... Maybe Draven, and even then it's highly situational...

Borran

Whoa... I thought this game was serious, but talking about whether it's worth it to get an STD or grab a shiv... Shit just got real!

Jespar

yeah thats just cynlael...

Kresslack

Cynlael said:

Kresslack said:

Cynlael said:

Whyyyyy would you get SOTD on Yasuo Q_Q

MR boots + Statikk Shiv Rush and win (or armour boots, if they dont really have CC) lead into IE, LW, GA and BT - typical ADC build.

You don't build a lot of ad items for Yasuo, you  build attack speed an crit. SotD = 100% crit and attack speed for 3 secs when activated. Pop your ult, activate. GG.

Yes... You build crit... Statikk Shiv and IE... You might want to read his passive if you think SOTD is good on him <_<
I'd like to see you convince anyone that building AD on a M-ADC is a bad idea. (PS. In case you're lazy. His passive gives him 2x the amount of crit you have, hence Shiv and IE is all you need. It's also 100% crit/aspd for 3 attacks. So you're wasting about 2s of a passive, when you could just use that slot for a LW or BT for sustain / more burst.


SOTD is good on like... Twitch and... Maybe Draven, and even then it's highly situational...Well as 

Well, as you can see from the score, it worked out quite well. The next game was against a Yasuo using the build you recommend, and he went 6/8. So, I think I'll keep with this one since it's working for me. To each their own!

Cynlael

Nvm, keep being generic solo queue player.

Cooper

Just because it worked for you against bad players does not mean it's a good build. We have the same problem with people in HoN. They do well with a bad item/skill build ina game,get lucky and do it again,and then tell everyone else they are wrong about it being bad.

Cynlael

Cooper said:

Just because it worked for you against bad players does not mean it's a good build. We have the same problem with people in HoN. They do well with a bad item/skill build ina game,get lucky and do it again,and then tell everyone else they are wrong about it being bad.

Cooper making sense, ogod.

IDK, though. That Pantheon / Teemo / Cait build seemed pretty legit.

Mishgul

Here was me thinking your build depended on what the team needs and who the enemies were.

#sunfireatmogsforeverygame

Kresslack

All I'm saying is it works for me, consistently. Not sure why that upsets you so. Moving along....

Cynlael

Mishgul said:

Here was me thinking your build depended on what the team needs and who the enemies were. #sunfireatmogsforeverygame

6 BT riven every game. Your move.

Tesha

It's amazing how people's unreasonable need to be "right" on the internet can lead to such asshattery. Let them play how they want - if they want to be taught how to play against the elite .1% of the tryhard nerd population, they'll ask for help. No real need to criticize everything; it doesn't make you seem smart or good or anything, it just makes you seem like an asshole.

Hasar

tl;dr due to Yasuo's unique nature (x2 crit) and SOTD's unique active (100% crit 3 attacks or x seconds) - SOTD isn't optimal on him

Could've been pointed out more nicely, but this is correct! But that doesn't mean you HAVE TO avoid building SOTD, it's w/e, Just not 'optimal' if you're looking to be 100% optimal (in terms of gold and gain, etc) - but playing a champ however way you want it, is your decision.

Kuy

Hasar said:

tl;dr due to Yasuo's unique nature (x2 crit) and SOTD's unique active (100% crit 3 attacks or x seconds) - SOTD isn't optimal on him

Could've been pointed out more nicely, but this is correct! But that doesn't mean you HAVE TO avoid building SOTD, it's w/e, Just not 'optimal' if you're looking to be 100% optimal (in terms of gold and gain, etc) - but playing a champ however way you want it, is your decision.

Not to mention SOTD's passive effect is not present when the item itself is on cool down, and since Yasuo scales so well with attack speed, you're spending a lot of gold on stats that are literally doing nothing.

To compare, it's like measuring effective health. So you have 300 armour. Buying a chainvest will give you ~1% physical damage reduction. Alternatively, you could buy a kindlegem to get health + cdr for the same price. Buying a kindlegem at this point is so much more effective health that it's silly not to.

@Tesha: LoL is above anything (including an individual's mastery of mechanics) a game of numbers. While people could be nicer in giving criticisms, it's important for anyone playing against other people to understand that. Especially considering MMR tends to place you against people with a similar mastery of gamer mechanics.

@Kresslack: keep in mind that Yasuo is still at his release state. This means that anything you do with him that is successful needs to be taken with a grain of salt. As people learn to play against him, builds that are bad (objectively speaking based on gold per stat values) will become very hindering to you should you embed them into your playstyle. I'd suggest at least trying other things out before resolving yourself to your current build. Remember the important things:

1. Yasuo only needs ~60% crit to max out (his passive is not x2, as it reduces your crit chance by 10% or so after math).

2. Your ulty at rank 3 gives you 50% armour ignore. This means flat armour pen is way more effective than percent armour pen.

3. Your abilities cool downs scale down with attack speed, meaning attack speed is effectively CDR for him.

4. Your q applies on hit effects.

5. Your flow increases per units travelled, meaning move speed is basically cdr for your insane passive shield.

These things make items like yomou's, wit's end, bork, and static shiv great, as you're basically spending the same amount as other champions for twice the stats. This leaves a weird place where his damage is going to "cap out" before other champs, allowing him to build a few defensive items and still be doing as much damage as other melee carries (not to mention wit's end will make you do CRAZY AOE MAGIC DAMAGE as a defensive item on a melee ad carry). It also means that completing a full item is generally worth more than when another champion would finish the same item, which means completing items progresses you faster than buying other parts of items.

Apolinario

first game showdown.. did not even read the rules.. i thought it was just 1v1 ARAM or something.. 

so i bought ancient coin as first item. lol  surpised when it was over after first blood. it was fun, short game. gotta love that trundle dance though

Hasar

I lost in about 30s, maybe a minute and got four ip. Worth?