I don't remember if Apostate ever really got a counter to fly. Vertigo seems like a crap counter, honestly, given prep classes' ability to slow prep and the impossibility of sticking a focusable fast enough to do anything about that.
FLY always bypassed some room hinder (tentacles/wildgrowth). It bypassing piety/gravehands originated as a bug, but Mak decided he liked it so kept it.
I kinda like it in group combat situations, but don't agree that it's super necessary in 1v1. I don't really mind it, either, though, I guess. I'm pretty sure I would mind it as Apostate (or never fight outdoors).
RoF is 2 secs versus tentacle being 2.5s without lethal ink/quick-witted.
Tentacle by itself is definitely not the counter to RoF. Most pure momentum classes have a more efficient anti-fly mechanic built into their kit, or a class balance that can be combined with tentacle, or access to Vertigo, or Lethargy to slow down the fly speeds. That isn't to say that these counters are always sufficient, but it would be much easier to tune the lacking classes than to abolish the mechanic
i joined targossas mostly because of @Farrah and have not regretted the decision, it's great. unfortunately, while we have a few very skilled individuals, targossas lacks the population needed to raid/do conflict as often as one would like. we have lots of great RP'ers like @Quisse@Greys@Aodfionn@Torinn and @Laniara but we could use a few more PvP'ers! join targossas!
i joined targossas mostly because of @Farrah and have not regretted the decision, it's great. unfortunately, while we have a few very skilled individuals, targossas lacks the population needed to raid/do conflict as often as one would like. we have lots of great RP'ers like @Quisse@Greys@Aodfionn@Torinn and @Laniara but we could use a few more PvP'ers! join targossas!
I thought you came because of me! WE'RE NOT FRIENDS ANYMORE </3
i joined targossas mostly because of @Farrah and have not regretted the decision, it's great. unfortunately, while we have a few very skilled individuals, targossas lacks the population needed to raid/do conflict as often as one would like. we have lots of great RP'ers like @Quisse@Greys@Aodfionn@Torinn and @Laniara but we could use a few more PvP'ers! join targossas!
I thought you came because of me! WE'RE NOT FRIENDS ANYMORE </3
I'm pretty sure @Vender thought you were going to assassinate him if he joined...
i joined targossas mostly because of @Farrah and have not regretted the decision, it's great. unfortunately, while we have a few very skilled individuals, targossas lacks the population needed to raid/do conflict as often as one would like. we have lots of great RP'ers like @Quisse@Greys@Aodfionn@Torinn and @Laniara but we could use a few more PvP'ers! join targossas!
I thought you came because of me! WE'RE NOT FRIENDS ANYMORE </3
I'm pretty sure @Vender thought you were going to assassinate him if he joined...
Can you post the first fight that you lost too please?
I'm pretty sure the point of the log was the fact that he passed out then ate 15 rum balls to survive, which was somewhat funny.
It's extremely unlikely he would have passed out from hunger again even if he hadn't eaten the rum balls. It was a pretty standard Exelethril chest beating post that showed off him killing someone. Despite losing the first duel.
Is no one going to point out the fact that timestamps go from 21:05:xx -> 21:12:xx -> 21:57:xx (rumball eating/passing out) -> 21:38:xx -> 21:14:xx (kill)
Yeah tbf, @exelethril didn't post the 4 fights he beat the hell out of me, which he could've if he only wanted to show off his leet skills. Surviving hunger by chocolate rumballs is log-worthy.
Though if he had shown the last one (where I was Apostate), that would've shown just how bad clumsy shuts Apostate down. I think half of my deadeyes combo's both fizzled, half of the remaining had one fizzle, whenever clumsy was on me. I have either terrible luck, or that proc rate needs some looking at!
Part of the fight between myself and Puxi. Not to complain about 2H or Puxi in particular (he's a lovely guy, really). Just to show how much clumsy makes me want to flip things over.
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RoF is 2 secs versus tentacle being 2.5s without lethal ink/quick-witted.
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I don't remember if Apostate ever really got a counter to fly. Vertigo seems like a crap counter, honestly, given prep classes' ability to slow prep and the impossibility of sticking a focusable fast enough to do anything about that.
FLY always bypassed some room hinder (tentacles/wildgrowth). It bypassing piety/gravehands originated as a bug, but Mak decided he liked it so kept it.
I kinda like it in group combat situations, but don't agree that it's super necessary in 1v1. I don't really mind it, either, though, I guess. I'm pretty sure I would mind it as Apostate (or never fight outdoors).
I'm pretty sure @Vender thought you were going to assassinate him if he joined...
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/bwwSKBNs
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Probably.
Ok maybe...
Come join the Achaea discord!
I'm pretty sure the point of the log was the fact that he passed out then ate 15 rum balls to survive, which was somewhat funny.
Is no one going to point out the fact that timestamps go from 21:05:xx -> 21:12:xx -> 21:57:xx (rumball eating/passing out) -> 21:38:xx -> 21:14:xx (kill)
I accidentally copy-pasted the ending from the 1st duel not the 3rd. I lost the 2nd
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Though if he had shown the last one (where I was Apostate), that would've shown just how bad clumsy shuts Apostate down. I think half of my deadeyes combo's both fizzled, half of the remaining had one fizzle, whenever clumsy was on me. I have either terrible luck, or that proc rate needs some looking at!
Edit: Thankfully found one at least
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
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Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/-6zsGk2l
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- Limb Counter - Fracture Relapsing -
"Honestly, I just love that it counts limbs." - Mizik Corten
Tried going for lock. Failed cause tired af.
Insta transition to dictate instead.
No aim,
No brain,
Depthswalker main.
[spoiler]Then proceed to lose next 3, cause of dumbass mistakes. Hue. GGs @Wessux [/spoiler]
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/LQhsA7xL
- Limb Counter - Fracture Relapsing -
"Honestly, I just love that it counts limbs." - Mizik Corten
Outfoxed
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.