COMBO introduced spamability to combos. Before you had to wait for balance to send 3 separate commands so they wouldn't be split., which makes up reaction time vs system ping applying restoration.
Making a balance variable on client side to go with my 22 millisecond ping is basically the same thing though as far as spamming. You'd get about 100 milliseconds total over the course of 5 combos extra to heal.
Alternatively, you know, you could cure properly to make the mangling like in the log impossible for the monk without negatively affecting anything (except the monk's ability to perma mangle you).
Edit: Apparently the way I used to cure when I was on zMUD doesn't work anymore so my statement above doesn't work now.
Icewall and mount. If they kill my mount, not that big of a deal, just have to be more careful. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up.
If they start putting firewalls in every room, I say "f*k you asshole." and leave. Fight's over. You won't win. Just come back later equal lame shit like delph backstab/snipe.
I don't know if this is relevant at all, but you spent a few seconds deffing up after burst there that gave him literally enough time to prep another leg of yours. Why bother putting anything that requires balance up on burst except maybe cloak?
I have a weaponsets script that doesn't draw redundantly and is extendable (requires svo though) which I am happy to give you if it'll help you have your SoA out more.
Actually, here. Just take it: http://puu.sh/8GWVf/fdadfd3500.zip (should be obvious what numbers to change to get shit to happen - prefix your commands with weaponsets.switch("whip") before flay and shit, and it'll seamlessly swap to whatever weapons are needed, and nothing more. Should let you keep your SoA out always.
Right. Where I def up doesn't change the fact that one combo preps a leg, and one swk with two punches starts the break chain.
Icewall and mount. If they kill my mount, not that big of a deal, just have to be more careful. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up.
If they start putting firewalls in every room, I say "f*k you asshole." and leave. Fight's over. You won't win. Just come back later equal lame shit like delph backstab/snipe.
Right. Here's how an unmounted fight vs a Monk goes. Best case, because I get some dodges.
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
He connects to the left leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
You quickly jump back, avoiding the attack.
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
2.2 sec
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
He connects to the right leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the right leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
You dodge nimbly out of the way.
2.2 sec
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
He connects to the left leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the right leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
You dodge nimbly out of the way.
3657h, 4268m, 21893e, 19083w cxkdb-(-966h, 20.9%)
2.2 sec - Hypnotise either succeeds or fails here. I re-hypno or suggest Impatience.
Proficy drops to the floor and sweeps his legs round at you.
Proficy knocks your legs out from under you and sends you sprawling to the floor.
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Your left leg is greatly damaged from the beating.
I tumble over a wall. I come back.
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
He connects to the left leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
You quickly jump back, avoiding the attack.
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
2.2 sec
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
He connects to the right leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the right leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
You dodge nimbly out of the way.
2.2 sec
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
He connects to the left leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the right leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
You dodge nimbly out of the way.
3657h, 4268m, 21893e, 19083w cxkdb-(-966h, 20.9%)
2.2 sec Hypnotise either succeeds or fails here. I re-hypno or suggest Impatience.
Proficy drops to the floor and sweeps his legs round at you.
Proficy knocks your legs out from under you and sends you sprawling to the floor.
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Proficy balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Your left leg is greatly damaged from the beating.
@Mizik - I think you need more health to counter the fast prep. Monks are a relatively easy(easiest?) class offensively and they have simple counters to their offense, though you probably already know all this.
Like what Santar mentioned, never fight an artied monk without a wall and stay mounted(shield or run on banish). It'll take some credit investment like multiple mounts/more health/mountable pet but probably worth it in the end for survivability against them.
Monk with artefacts is (still) broken as shit if you're not also artied yourself. Unfortunately for some people massively increasing your health just isn't an option.
What's the duration on pinshot? I have a feeling it's not that great, but if it's possible to keep that up all the time without sacrificing all of your own offense then it might allow you to tumble even without an icewall to get away from that. Only a bandaid until it actually gets fixed though.
@Mizik - I think you need more health to counter the fast prep. Monks are a relatively easy(easiest?) class offensively and they have simple counters to their offense, though you probably already know all this.
Like what Santar mentioned, never fight an artied monk without a wall and stay mounted(shield or run on banish). It'll take some credit investment like multiple mounts/more health/mountable pet but probably worth it in the end for survivability against them.
I forget you play Cyrenian.
Banish not a problem. I tumble out of break and then the mount comes back. The mount is dead.
Please refer to my above log for typical unmounted fight.
Icewall and mount. If they kill my mount, not that big of a deal, just have to be more careful. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up.
If they start putting firewalls in every room, I say "f*k you asshole." and leave. Fight's over. You won't win. Just come back later equal lame shit like delph backstab/snipe.
Right. Here's how an unmounted fight vs a Monk goes. Best case, because I get some dodges.
2.2 sec - Hypnotise either succeeds or fails here. I re-hypno or suggest Impatience.
I tumble over a wall. I come back.
2.2 sec Hypnotise either succeeds or fails here. I re-hypno or suggest Impatience.
I tumble over a wall.
You said you have health arties and you're probably dex spec. I'm not sure what the problem is here. Seems to me you're: no scales, no scalemail, no SoA wielded, no mount or weaving, no parry, no offensive pressure to stop the combos from occuring every 2.2 sec. Proficy is a notorious shield whore - almost Santar-level. All you have to do is scare him with dstabs. You know you can use hypnosis staggered with your dstabs, rite? You're f-king Mizik gdi. You're supposed to be better than me at this.
I had a lv 2 sip ring, a Highfavour, and runes + boar in that log. Plus Scales.
Each leg combo hit me for 1186 damage, 25.6% of my max health. Tekura would have scaled with higher health.
Only need to get a target in BBT range.
I tanked it with a lv2 sip and truefavor so you should have been good, runes won't really effect much atm, But if he's going for perma mangle I just tumble, the second it takes him to follow me was enough to let me stand as bm, as paladin Piety usually does the job for me.
Also tree tattoo or healing -might- have been saving my ass since it cures lv1 breaks
Icewall and mount. If they kill my mount, not that big of a deal, just have to be more careful. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up.
If they start putting firewalls in every room, I say "f*k you asshole." and leave. Fight's over. You won't win. Just come back later equal lame shit like delph backstab/snipe.
>_> Totally thought you had artie mount or I would have killed that thing so hard as bm <_< totally
Made this this morning, works incredibly well, and works for every limb damage in the game.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/9f6d5bd2
It's a bit spammy, but it works. It has a short or long output, default is long (which is in the log). Short can be added to prompt (like vadi limb counter).
Anybody know how to set up sub windows? I'd like to put this right above the command window and update it (instead of spamming myself out).
@Jhui cocks back his arm and throws a throwing axe at your torso. (13.249) Your hearing is suddenly restored. 5453h, 3066m|92%m, 100%e, 97%w, 63 kai, x, 78%, cbkh| Jhui forms a spear hand and stabs out at you. (13.252) He connects to the right arm! Your right arm is greatly damaged from the beating. Jhui forms a spear hand and stabs out at you. He connects to the left arm! Your left arm is greatly damaged from the beating.
Neat trick, but I'm actually not entirely sure what the point is? Might make sense if it was curare.. was that the intention?
Mind command... I assume. Probably to tumble or apply to head
I figured that was the case, but neither came afterwards, just another combo. Also, the odds of having deafness back up before his tekura balance is around 50/50 anyhow. Still 10/10 clever though.
Hard to say without a context. Can always be something like originally wanting to go for a mind command, but the lock breaking, or merely wanting to prepared to command to stop a possible tumble, or simply reconsidering, or whatever.
Last I heard you can use mind command while off balance from tekura, so he'd be able to command without worrying about deafness coming back up. No idea if that's been changed though.
What I can't figure out is why that is better than WWK. I'm assuming WWK has better accuracy than a forged handaxe, although that might be a bad assumption.
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COMBO introduced spamability to combos. Before you had to wait for balance to send 3 separate commands so they wouldn't be split., which makes up reaction time vs system ping applying restoration.
Now there's QUEUE.
Alternatively, you know, you could cure properly to make the mangling like in the log impossible for the monk without negatively affecting anything (except the monk's ability to perma mangle you).
Edit: Apparently the way I used to cure when I was on zMUD doesn't work anymore so my statement above doesn't work now.
This is how I fight monk:
Icewall and mount. If they kill my mount, not that big of a deal, just have to be more careful. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up. If they lash the icewall, I put it back up.
If they start putting firewalls in every room, I say "f*k you asshole." and leave. Fight's over. You won't win. Just come back later equal lame shit like delph backstab/snipe.
Right. Where I def up doesn't change the fact that one combo preps a leg, and one swk with two punches starts the break chain.
Don't bash his advice Miz, that script is potentially as good as his tumble script for 650 was.
Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
2.2 sec
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
2.2 sec
2.2 sec - Hypnotise either succeeds or fails here. I re-hypno or suggest Impatience.
I tumble over a wall. I come back.
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
2.2 sec
Proficy lets fly at you with a snap kick.
2.2 sec
2.2 sec Hypnotise either succeeds or fails here. I re-hypno or suggest Impatience.
I tumble over a wall.
@Mizik - I think you need more health to counter the fast prep. Monks are a relatively easy(easiest?) class offensively and they have simple counters to their offense, though you probably already know all this.
Like what Santar mentioned, never fight an artied monk without a wall and stay mounted(shield or run on banish). It'll take some credit investment like multiple mounts/more health/mountable pet but probably worth it in the end for survivability against them.
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Monk with artefacts is (still) broken as shit if you're not also artied yourself. Unfortunately for some people massively increasing your health just isn't an option.
What's the duration on pinshot? I have a feeling it's not that great, but if it's possible to keep that up all the time without sacrificing all of your own offense then it might allow you to tumble even without an icewall to get away from that. Only a bandaid until it actually gets fixed though.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
I forget you play Cyrenian.
Banish not a problem. I tumble out of break and then the mount comes back. The mount is dead.
Please refer to my above log for typical unmounted fight.
Parry a leg? That forces them to use rhk or sweepkick which buys you a good chunk of time and lessens the pre damage you receive by a small amount.
^I'd like to quote this post I made in August 2013.
Mizik does not play defense.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f8vhlyawcob4e0s/Exelethril2.html
Epseth/epteth sucks so bad.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/47454c2f
Ouch, guess I shoulda somersaulted to avoid some bee hits.
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You said you have health arties and you're probably dex spec. I'm not sure what the problem is here. Seems to me you're: no scales, no scalemail, no SoA wielded, no mount or weaving, no parry, no offensive pressure to stop the combos from occuring every 2.2 sec. Proficy is a notorious shield whore - almost Santar-level. All you have to do is scare him with dstabs. You know you can use hypnosis staggered with your dstabs, rite? You're f-king Mizik gdi. You're supposed to be better than me at this.
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I almost closed the log when I saw the ept/eps plus shivering on you, assuming you lost.
You amaze me good sir. (y)
I tried to combo Exelethril today. If I wasn't paralysed I was clumsy. If he was riding he dodged. Made me cry a little on the inside.
On another note. NA timezone needs some population control. How am I gonna gank bashers when Mhaldor runs 20 deep.
Proficy|Kafziel|Hasar|Carmain|Saibel|Herose|Saeva|Isaiah|Nimala|Asula|Eloru|Suladan|Tirac|Leviticus|Cresil|Wessux|Florent
ino|Dragonknight|Xer|Aegoth|Mycen attacked and two rooms were exterminated. Rooms were fixed by Marv and Oceana.
Defenders were Rangor, Ellodin, Grondson, Exelethril, Marv, Yerf, Aluciana, Rom, Amanu, Oceana, Alrena, Yae, and
Lothiac.
I'mma pick a fight with Hashan now ok?
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Sorry I was alt tabbed for priestess.
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I tanked it with a lv2 sip and truefavor so you should have been good, runes won't really effect much atm, But if he's going for perma mangle I just tumble, the second it takes him to follow me was enough to let me stand as bm, as paladin Piety usually does the job for me.
Also tree tattoo or healing -might- have been saving my ass since it cures lv1 breaks
>_> Totally thought you had artie mount or I would have killed that thing so hard as bm <_< totally
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/9f6d5bd2
It's a bit spammy, but it works. It has a short or long output, default is long (which is in the log). Short can be added to prompt (like vadi limb counter).
Anybody know how to set up sub windows? I'd like to put this right above the command window and update it (instead of spamming myself out).
Neat trick, but I'm actually not entirely sure what the point is? Might make sense if it was curare.. was that the intention?
I figured that was the case, but neither came afterwards, just another combo. Also, the odds of having deafness back up before his tekura balance is around 50/50 anyhow. Still 10/10 clever though.
Hard to say without a context. Can always be something like originally wanting to go for a mind command, but the lock breaking, or merely wanting to prepared to command to stop a possible tumble, or simply reconsidering, or whatever.
→My Mudlet Scripts
Last I heard you can use mind command while off balance from tekura, so he'd be able to command without worrying about deafness coming back up. No idea if that's been changed though.
I never heard of that changing.
→My Mudlet Scripts
What I can't figure out is why that is better than WWK. I'm assuming WWK has better accuracy than a forged handaxe, although that might be a bad assumption.