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I really agree with @Sothantos and @Davok. Too good to be true is not explicit enough. What is too good to be true depends too much on personal perception. I sincerely wish another metric could be established.
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
That being said it isn't a bug as much as it is just players exploiting a mechanic as they do with any mechanic that can be exploited. For a lot involved it probably wasn't even a ridicules amount, but it does seem clear the total gold gained from this exploit is pretty high.
A good number players have been severely punished for doing far less. For consistency I kind of expect every Ship involved to be deleted, and a few captains to get shrubbed.
It's pretty clear that in the last ~4 years, more gold has been introduced due to Seafaring bugs than would ever have been possible through hunting/mining methods in the same timeframe, likely by an order of magnitude or two. Pandora's auction is a perfect example that there is entirely too much legacy gold lying around, let alone new gold being introduced through bugs like this. While the admin team do a great job of fixing once it happens, the reality is once the gold hits the economy the damage is done regardless.
I know we've been reticent in the past to hard code the economy and let the players decide pricing, but it's obvious that inflation has run rampant to the point that it's not really even feasible to continue to justify it. Credits continue to go up in price (though they have leveled out around 13500 finally), and with the introduction of Renown, CFS itself is really not the best way to farm credits anymore. Short of selling for quick gold, the system is all but worthless.
My recommendation would be to remove CFS entirely, move credit sales to a denizen and purchase them directly from the game. Bound at say 6000/7000, and Unbound at 9000/10000 similar to how House/City creditsales already operate. An unfortunate reality on the back side of this, is that legacy gold has to be removed. It's simply not tenable to have a player with 25/30/75 million gold sitting around, when there is a hard cap to bashing and Seafaring is now going to be more regulated in the gold it can generate. Players can't compete with legacy gold, because the gold generation of the current meta is nowhere near enough to catch you up. Essentially, anything about 10/15 million gold would need to be removed, otherwise we'll just be in the same boat in 2 years.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Disappearing from Achaea for now. See you, space cowboy.
smileyface#8048 if you wanna chat.
Ships have proven to be terrible for gold exploitation. The admin really needs to keep a closer eye on this stuff and nip it in the bud long before it gets damaging enough to warrant anyone being shrubbed.
(FTR: Idgaf and don't know you IG..just for a laugh because of the forum shittalk about your change)
The example of the message I was shown indicated the individual earned about 3 mil over what the administration deemed reasonable between July 1 and July 15, so they extracted over 200 unbound credits as a recovery measure.
The statement that this was resulting in gold being "very easily generate upwards of ten million gold in the span of a couple hours (and did so on a near-daily basis)" either indicates it was intentionally being blown out of proportion to rile people up or the administration is really out of touch with their mechanics. Otherwise, if it were true, you can bet people would have been shrubbed as well as probably had their ships deleted (like happened with the last big seafaring scandal).
It is far more likely that you haven't spoken to everyone who took part, or even that people are lying so they don't get shunned like people who previously abused seafaring bugs to generate gold.
So if there really were people pulling 10 mil in a couple of hours on a daily basis, I'm really surprised they're not sprouting leaves already because half a month of that would put that probably close to what the last big seafaring scandal was.
It's a legitimate question, regardless of what you think my motives are for asking it.
I basically got a speeding ticket, not my first one ever, but my first one in a game.
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Some food for thought, if this amount of gold unbalances the economy. Why were only my credits from my character taken? Why did they not cycle the gold out of the economy and return the credits purchased to the player?
Disappearing from Achaea for now. See you, space cowboy.
smileyface#8048 if you wanna chat.
It sucks that it feels like you're being singled out, and in a way, you are, but there's almost no way to generate about 300 unbound credits in two weeks via any other means, and while that certainly can be hard to see if you're new, I assume there are older players involved in doing this that might have felt that something was out of whack if they stopped to think about it for a second.
Sure, one or two people can make that kind of cash, bashing the island/treacherous planes/tree loops, but only one person at a time can pick up that money.
Disappearing from Achaea for now. See you, space cowboy.
smileyface#8048 if you wanna chat.