No Achaean Language

Asmodron

that damn Zabmacuda, slaughtering all those promised folk, up to 81397. Clearly Zsarachnor's big brother.

Haloshire

Aegoth said:

Of all the players in Achaea, people who play in Cyrene are the most vapid, self-absorbed, angry people I've ever seen. Sheesh, get a fucking grip

Yeah, shame on me @Aegoth for being a bit salty that the necklace of comprehension doesn't work on letters or journals as of the last time I was able to log in. Yanno, shame on me that I expect the basic functionality of the game that is not only integral to my character's roleplay, but something also necessary to be able to work on character progression in the House he is in to be still working. It's like I expected their developers not to break prod or have their code work the way it's supposed to so I could spend the hour of time I had at my disposal yesterday as the capstone of my day instead of rapidly finding out that everything I intended to do and had been looking forward to was rendered ineffective by them committing the cardinal sin of development on a lark.

But, yanno, I'm stupid for wanting to have a good time and expecting the necklace of comprehension or writing in a language to function. I'm criminally mentally deficient for wanting to follow up on some RP that requires anonymity to be able continue in a manner that is enjoyable to all participants. I should uninstall mudlet and scramble my password because I was so devoid of imagination and intelligence that I had a good little laugh and immediately attempted workarounds so I could so carelessly uncover that one didn't exist.

I'll own angry in this. I'll take self-absorbed because, seriously, it's me. But there's nothing dumb about finding frustration in running into a wall and being unable to get around it with present mechanics.

Exelethril

"Parlez-vous achaean?"
"すみません、私はあなたを理解していません"

Asmodron

For a 1 day joke...that is already half over...people are taking this way too personally. Sheesh

Telinus

I genuinely want them to keep this. With me being borderline on just logging in every once in a while to do nothing, this would make things a lot more interesting in terms of RP for me.

Makes everything seem more interesting than just everyone speaking the same language.

Marisella

An old traveller tells you, "Same called bard occultists spreading cave men."

I laughed!

Ailea

Blademaster quest was hysterical to do like this. Necklaces of Comprehension can help with like says and tells, however in terms of written work you're a bit stuck even if it's given to you in a language you know such as a Siren writes it in Sireni and gives it to another Siren, they still cannot read it which I find odd. You should be able to read other work in the languages you know or can understand yes? 

Anyways, this is a lot of fun 

Lucianus

I'm all for turning off Achaean language, but it implementing it shouldn't be as simple as turning it off like a lightswitch. They need to make sure it doesn't break any quests and NPCs, and make sure denizens and pets default to their native racial language.

Also... Sapience was once ruled the Seleucarian Empire. Wouldn't it make sense to have a common language based on that? Or would that be the Human language?

Gwynrii

The lack of racism in Achaea isn't because there is a common language, the issue is that it doesn't mesh well with the way the world is set up. The only Divine that could possibly encourage racist RP is Phaestus, and that would still be OOC for him since he's more about liking dwarves and less about disliking everyone else but dwarves. The conflict of the setting revolves around differing ideologies and I can't really see any faction that could effectively deal racism, since the "bad guys" unite under ideologies, and the "good guys" are... well... good guys.

And I know I just talked about racism but something tells me the main reason you guys want there to not be a common language is for the opportunity for that sort of RP. Which I can't see existing in a large scale in Achaea unless more racial-focused Divines and factions are introduced. The lack of a common language might simulate that for a moment but as there is the necklace of comprehension, it's not going to do jack.

Aralaya

I don't see how you got from us being fine with no 'common tongue' to us wanting racism, but alright then.

Frederich

I'm down for fantasy racism.

Filthy Grooks/Orcs/Ogres/Goblins.

Wipe them off the map is what I'll do to them.

Ahmet

I was behind keeping the language gone this morning.

Then I logged in to transcribe a journal.

Holy mother of hell this isn't okay. Someone save me please.

Aralaya

@Ahmet I'm pretty sure if this change stuck around they would fix journals and denizens

Trey

Unrelated to the current situation, I'd love if after learning the initial language tutor, you could learn from any non-hostile npc of that race, like speaking to locals.

This has almost no relation to my annoyance at my Vertani being permanently at 'just below basic' fluency.

Shirszae

More fantasy racism would be pretty awesome. Also, if you know your lore, then you know that some of it is already present in history and between some factions. Its just a matter of seeing more of it.

@Frederich
Forgot the filthy Horkvals

Morthif

Tsol'aa power! Tsol'aa power!

Krypton

All Races Matter

Ehene

I'm a librarian that can't read any of my books. This is a sad day.

Kresslack

The idea of no Common tongue is pretty cringeworthy. Basically boils down to this:

Kez

I cook all races equally. Except dragons. They get it double.

Micaelis

A simple way to test if this feature actually adds any depth to roleplay is to make it an option you can toggle on and off. I'm sure some of the people who like it will toggle it on, in which case the current limitations are in play and they also can't understand the common tongue that others can speak/understand who toggle it off. Can gauge the outcome based on how long that little experiment lasts.

Of course, for a -very- engaging experience, the language changes should also be applied to market. Go big or go home with your immersion imho.

Lucianus

Also should give Dragons their own language. They did have their own culture and stuff back in Krenindala after all.

Ahmet

Dragons have their own language.

Lucianus

Ahmet said:

Dragons have their own language.

Oooh, is there a way to view a list of languages that your character knows?

*edit: the only command I could find is LANGUAGES, which only displays what the current language is*

Kalila

Lucianus said:

Also should give Dragons their own language. They did have their own culture and stuff back in Krenindala after all.

Dragons already have their own language though.

Nicola

Try SCORE FULL or to be super specific SCORE LANGUAGES

Quisse

I hate to say it, but I love this change. I mean really love it. I wish it wasn't a joke.

Keorin

I'll admit, I haven't experienced anything quite like trying to communicate to someone you're dueling with that you ran out of magnesium in the middle of the fight. Props to @Savira for being a good sport about the whole thing.

Ahmet

SPEAK will also list the languages you can use.

Ailea

@Nicola I was looking everywhere for the Score Languages command earlier. Tried all kinds of bizarre combinations. Thanks!