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  • LucianusLucianus Member Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Anedhel said:
    Lucianus said:
    Switched to dual eagle scimitars. Same 20 strength. Damage got increased by 32% for dual cutting it seems.


    Will switch to sword and shield later to see what the damage is for it. Assuming it got buffed too.
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    ETA: This part specifically. You testing doesn't float my boat, sorry :( 
    If you get a more precise number. Let me know. I'm just comparing it by the amount of damage I'm doing to things I usually hunt (Moghedu and Dun).

    I do believe that dual cutting definitely got an increase in damage though.

    The crit damage still doesn't quite compare to two-handed, but your non-crit damage is definitely getting pretty close to two-handed.
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  • LucianusLucianus Member Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Oh crap. I had Ethian empowerment on me. :#

    It's actually a slight damage buff (around 20% more damage) without any damage increasing defenses.

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  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,926 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Anybody else noticed shit like this happening in the last few days? Bolded percentages are target health pulled from GMCP.

    100% | Rage: 26 | Moulinet, Resonance, Cyclone(-18h, 0.2%)
    [System]: Added BASHING to your eqbal queue.
    [System]: Running queued eqbal command: BASHING
    You are not fallen or kneeling.
    You must dismount before you can mount anything else.
    Lightning-quick, you jab a deadly obsidian scorpion with a rapier with a slim blade of shining
    silver.
    You have scored an ANNIHILATINGLY POWERFUL CRITICAL hit!
    The songblessing upon the rapier sings out with a piercing high note.
    You have scored an OBLITERATING CRITICAL hit!
    11650h, 6303m, 30638e, 17115w e|cbkh Scorpion   [?? bld(5)]
    100% | Rage: 29 | Moulinet, Trill, Resonance, Cyclone..

  • BorranBorran Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Are you sure that the target you are pulling the gmcp from its the target you're hitting? I know sometimes if there are multiple in the room with me,  my scripts start tracking the wrong target.

  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,926 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes, I'm sure. That particular example had it happening on the first hit, but there were others where it was showing the correct sub-100 percentage for my target and still no change after a hit.

    Even had it with a Death knight (so only thing in the room) and no change after a WSC (and no life steal).
  • ArmaliArmali Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    How do you pull mob health from gmcp? I've never managed to find it.
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,926 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    It's in IRE.Target, you need to enable the module first though otherwise it's not sent.
  • AaricAaric Member Posts: 47 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    You find it in the IRE.Target section, which provides information about the server-side target you set with the SETTARGET command. http://nexus.ironrealms.com/GMCP#IRE.Target
  • ExelethrilExelethril Member Posts: 3,352 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Antonius said:

    Anybody else noticed shit like this happening in the last few days? Bolded percentages are target health pulled from GMCP.

    100% | Rage: 26 | Moulinet, Resonance, Cyclone(-18h, 0.2%)
    [System]: Added BASHING to your eqbal queue.
    [System]: Running queued eqbal command: BASHING
    You are not fallen or kneeling.
    You must dismount before you can mount anything else.
    Lightning-quick, you jab a deadly obsidian scorpion with a rapier with a slim blade of shining
    silver.
    You have scored an ANNIHILATINGLY POWERFUL CRITICAL hit!
    The songblessing upon the rapier sings out with a piercing high note.
    You have scored an OBLITERATING CRITICAL hit!
    11650h, 6303m, 30638e, 17115w e|cbkh Scorpion   [?? bld(5)]
    100% | Rage: 29 | Moulinet, Trill, Resonance, Cyclone..

    Is that 11.65k hp with the Sycophantic cape?

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  • SarathaiSarathai Member Posts: 2,139 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Antonius said:

    Anybody else noticed shit like this happening in the last few days? Bolded percentages are target health pulled from GMCP.

    100% | Rage: 26 | Moulinet, Resonance, Cyclone(-18h, 0.2%)
    [System]: Added BASHING to your eqbal queue.
    [System]: Running queued eqbal command: BASHING
    You are not fallen or kneeling.
    You must dismount before you can mount anything else.
    Lightning-quick, you jab a deadly obsidian scorpion with a rapier with a slim blade of shining
    silver.
    You have scored an ANNIHILATINGLY POWERFUL CRITICAL hit!
    The songblessing upon the rapier sings out with a piercing high note.
    You have scored an OBLITERATING CRITICAL hit!
    11650h, 6303m, 30638e, 17115w e|cbkh Scorpion   [?? bld(5)]
    100% | Rage: 29 | Moulinet, Trill, Resonance, Cyclone..

    Is that 11.65k hp with the Sycophantic cape?
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  • ExelethrilExelethril Member Posts: 3,352 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Jesus.

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  • TeshaTesha Member Posts: 2,935 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Wait until @Antonius buys his bloodsworn one! Then it'll be more like 18k.

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  • SzanthaxSzanthax San DiegoMember Posts: 1,906 @ - Epic Achaean
    Tesha said:
    Wait until @Antonius buys his bloodsworn one! Then it'll be more like 18k.
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  • DurranDurran Member Posts: 2
    so can anyone tell me with the recent changes did Sword and Shield's attack increase and two-handed's decrease? 
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,926 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Jesus.


    The tradeoff is that my attacks are buggy as shit right now. Sometimes they do no damage, and sometimes they do this bullshit: https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/53ced7fe

    That's right, I've started doing negative damage on some attacks, and healing shit in the process.

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  • JonathinJonathin Grand Rapids, MIMember Posts: 3,323 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Durran said:
    so can anyone tell me with the recent changes did Sword and Shield's attack increase and two-handed's decrease? 
    I haven't noticed any difference. I still go through things at about the same speed, but that could be because I rely pretty heavily on RNG for crits via crit pendant and lucky elixir.

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  • OmorOmor Member Posts: 756 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Jonathin said:
    Durran said:
    so can anyone tell me with the recent changes did Sword and Shield's attack increase and two-handed's decrease? 
    I haven't noticed any difference. I still go through things at about the same speed, but that could be because I rely pretty heavily on RNG for crits via crit pendant and lucky elixir.

    I've noticed maybe a very slight decrease in 2h damage. Nothing worth mentioning, imo.
    (I hunt as 2h runie).
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  • AeshAesh Member Posts: 83 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    BM damage feels roughly the same, haven't noticed any major ups or downs.
  • XadenXaden Member Posts: 2,315 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I'm almost afraid to say is but... I hunted the entire of the Sidhe today, as a runewarden, in pretty much the same amount of time it takes me in dragon....

    PLEASE DON'T RE-NERF!!!!
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  • LucianusLucianus Member Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Anyone with the cape beginning to notice a difference in the damage you take between armor vs natural resistances at 11k-ish health?

    Like... bosses still normally wreck my non-dragon classes when they're relying on armor and SoA as their only form of damage resist if I'm not careful.


    But today... I decided to run around as a Horkval Bard and Horkval Alchemist.

    The result is really interesting so far. I'm able to tank stuff far more easily like I usually do in dragonform with those high cutting/blunt resistances.

    I would definitely recommend someone with a cape to try hunting as a Horkval to see if they get any similar results when they hit the 10k health range.
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  • AerekAerek East Tennessee, USAMember Posts: 1,818 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Armour and resistances work very differently, so no, that's not very surprising. Armour blocks a % of each attack, but the other % scales with your max health and is unaffected. Resistances, on the other hand, reduce a flat % of total damage. At low health, armour will be more noticeable, while at high health, resistances will become more and more valuable.
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  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    So basically horkval lesser + con + sycophant cape = EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    Ring of Magus included in that as well as SoA, etc..
  • LucianusLucianus Member Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Though I do wonder how much health would you need to make it worth picking Horkval resists over fullplate armor.
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  • AtalkezAtalkez Member Posts: 5,044 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Lucianus said:
    Though I do wonder how much health would you need to make it worth picking Horkval resists over fullplate armor.
    Considering the resists received from Horkval most closely relate to leather armour, I would have to say never.


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  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,926 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Aerek said:
    Armour and resistances work very differently, so no, that's not very surprising. Armour blocks a % of each attack, but the other % scales with your max health and is unaffected. Resistances, on the other hand, reduce a flat % of total damage. At low health, armour will be more noticeable, while at high health, resistances will become more and more valuable.
    We're not talking about PvP, though, so it is surprising. Denizen attacks have always been assumed not to scale based on maximum health, and instead each attack can just do damage within a set range of values. That's why nobody* ever says "Buy a sip ring first" for bashing, increasing your maximum health is always flat out better (it's almost always better for PvP, too, but that's another discussion entirely). No scaling on maximum health means that both armour and resistances will still be reducing each attack by the same amount, regardless of if you have 6,000 or 12,000 health, so there shouldn't be a point where which is better (for a given attack) suddenly changes.

    I've not noticed any difference in how much damage I'm taking with the additional cape health, but I've also not paid that close attention to it.

    I'd suggest a simpler explanation: Horkval Bard is always tankier than non-Horkval Bard (hardly a surprise). Without cape, neither is tanky enough for denizen X. With cape, Horkval is but non-Horkval isn't.

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  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I never finished testing armour against denizens, but I didn't find any difference in damage (with or without armour) between 2500 and 3740 health. That's obviously not anywhere close to 10k, but should be enough for any scaling to be visible. So if there is health scaling in denizen attacks, it should only be for certain denizens and not universal (I'm pretty sure there are a couple specific denizen attacks that deal a flat percentage of max health).
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