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Early Mhaldor was.. different. Any Mhaldorian can read early news posts and read the early struggles the city had, and the tendency towards novices using the city newsboards to introduce themselves. It was a little bit wild west - there were some basic rules and punishments, but certainly no extensive city laws or guidelines on behavior. By the time I ascended to Tyrannus it had all become a bit of a mess, and while it certainly wasn't as bad as some other cities I felt like there was little that really differentiated Mhaldor from everywhere else. The above post was one of many posts addressing that and attempting to bring a degree of.. intelligent, calculated Evil to a city that had a reputation as being largely mindless thugs.
The intention was not to squash a sense of community but rather to foster a sense of community that actually made sense for Mhaldor - to give it direction. Dictatorial? Yeah. That was the point, though. I like that speaking on CT is something that has to be earned, and something that distinguishes the Slaves from those who have worked to gain the privilege. It makes the difference all the more important and provides a measure of impetus to advance. Mhaldor is meant to be a little bit unfair, so you feel even better when you advance in spite of the odds stacked against you - which is very literally the ideals of Evil.
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
What I meant to address was more joking innuendo, vaguely sexual puns, etc. - things that are more like stereotypical rogueish bragging and normal joking around than explicit discussion of fluids and genitals. I mean something like "You know what they say about dwarves with big hands...", not "Let me tell you about Tael's dick".
I've seen, on several channels (not just Hashan's CT), people shutting down what was ultimately pretty tame joking around because it was vaguely sexual. Occasionally it seems like it's some blanket puritanical impulse, but I think more often it's shutting things down "before they get out of hand".
But obviously some things should be shut down. I think those circumstances are usually obvious and I don't think they demonstrate the need for an explicit guideline or a blanket policy. To borrow a turn of phrase: I know it when I see it.
These boards exist to discuss the game and things that happen in the game. Hashan's going to come up from time to time; if it didn't, it would mean no one is playing Hashani. And I do have to agree with @Vayne, the irony of you trying to shut down a legitimate conversation, in a thread about city leaders shutting down legitimate conversations, is pretty overwhelming, and might suggest that there is, in fact, an issue with this kind of behavior present in the game. Chill, bro, no need to be so defensive or "pro-active".
But what I really hate isn't the silence I get greeted most of the time but the backhanded, selfish requests that comes from it. Instead of trying to find information about some aspect of Achaea, I get backbiting and selfish remarks from someone trying to make "a joke" (and not always trying
On another note, I feel like a lot of conversation could be generated by someone actually talking about something besides questions or trying to be witty. Plenty of people are vocal when there is something to talk about that interests them. The conversation doesn't always have to be about shifting politics or differences between the ideologies of Shallam and Targossas, but it has to be something that people are willing to engage in. Some of the "take it to tells" is that the person trying to cut it off has no interest in the conversation and so rather than trying to steer the conversation or interact with others, they shut it down. Biggest problem because of this, as as have been stated before (and if it hasn't, it's been implied) that this tells people that any conversation that isn't "important" is to be dismissed; the community that the channel is suppose to build is stymied instead into newbie questions, party invited because of raids, and asking for stuff like portals. There are conversations that need to be removed from public channels because they are public, and every city has differences and adjustments to this (i.e. "Silence Slave") but there are also conversations that need to be allowed to flourish in order for people to connect with each other and allow the citizens to be comrades and friends, not just strangers with access to a convenient CT command.
tl;dr Talk on ct without being assholes for the good of everyone.
Yea, that one!
I think that kind of repetitive message can also be seen as a grab for attention more than anything, like jumping up and down saying 'hi, I'm here, I'm helping!' rather than just getting in and doing it quietly. Not saying that's what you're doing, but maybe that's the perception.
If most of the time people don't respond to it, maybe try something else? I'd much rather see varied and colourful offers of help than the exact same phrasing over and over, and it might instigate more of a response.
Yea, that one!
Edit: Clarification on the first sentence.
Yea, that one!
One of the greatest 'fear' of talking on city channel is being made a fool of one's self.. and I think that really just depends on how the overall attitude is. We just need more people to talk, regardless of subject, as long as it is IC. I think with more consistant and widespread effort, the general atmosphere will change.
It's hard to make a blanket statement about channel etiquette when the silencing is only happening when a handful of people start up.
sorry @Dortheron , but you are awesome. Keep trying to help the novices and the newbies. Don't let others sarcistic and snide comments get you down or keep you from helping the younglings
I know its hard not to respond to sarcasim with sacastic remarks but I have faith in you!
*damn heathen*