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Should I buy an Aldar before the price goes up?

TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,706 @@ - Legendary Achaean
edited March 2015 in North of Thera
I will never not be an Infernal, at most I'll multiclass either Bard or Blademaster. Just trying to figure out how much I actually want one, can't decide so I'm croudsourcing pros and cons.

Should I buy an Aldar before the price goes up? 51 votes

Yes
84%
AchillesNemutaurMannimarKyrraAerekMelodieRuthMishgulTharvisJonathinFendoAliathHalosKendrickWessuxSantarShirszaeHerenicusBluefDaeir 43 votes
No
15%
AntidasRispokBlujixapugAldeberanHasarTaelAedinKlendathu 8 votes
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  • MeradorMerador Member Posts: 107
    edited March 2015
    Yes
    It's one of the best artifacts for dragon, too, if that's something you think you might accidentally attain.

    Edit: although the price might go from 850 to 1k, or something, in which case why bother choosing now? Depends I guess.
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,154 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    Necromancy alone is a pretty good reason to buy a Diadem as an Infernal. You may as well get it now before it gets more expensive and save yourself some credits in the long run. You could also boycott it out of principle in regards to exorbitant prices, but the alternative is definitely buying it asap.
    Wessux
  • KhaibitKhaibit Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Yes
    Yes, oh lordie yes!


  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 3,149 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No
    Suffer in the suffering /forum-rp

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
    SyriNimHayte
  • KyrraKyrra Sanctum of the SkyMember Posts: 4,797 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    Yes. Yes, yes. Yesssssss. Oh yes.
    (D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."

  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,276 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    holy god it's a 15% eq bonus why would you not want that

    I honestly feel they're going to at least double it in price, it's one of the most cost effective artefacts at the moment
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 3,149 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No
    Useful if you hit a shield. Useful if you use any eq based stuff (diagnose!). Just shut up and throw money at them.

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
    Kygo
  • AchillesAchilles Los AngelesMember Posts: 2,478 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    How much are they increasing it to?  Now seems to be the time to buy even if aldar isn't that important for Infernals and Runewardens.  If they increased it to 1200cr for example, you could still trade it in later for 800cr right?  Doesn't seem like a big risk to buy now as it does have some uses for general skills as well (web tattoo OPed)
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    Trey
  • AustereAustere TennesseeMember Posts: 2,225 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    Santar said:
    Aldar is a must have artefact for every single class in the game.

    No exceptions.
    I liked this for when I quit magi.  First person to give me shit for wasting credits, I am going to tell Santar they called him a dumbass.
    Tesha
  • CaladbolgCaladbolg Campbell County TNMember Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Yes
    Aldair in my mind is a lv3 weapon for equib classes.

    That being said I assume it's going to 1600 credits.

    Achilles said:
    How much are they increasing it to?  Now seems to be the time to buy even if aldar isn't that important for Infernals and Runewardens.  If they increased it to 1200cr for example, you could still trade it in later for 800cr right?  Doesn't seem like a big risk to buy now as it does have some uses for general skills as well (web tattoo OPed)
    Pretty sure artifacts value is based on what you paid for it not the current price.

  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,706 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Shit I just noticed, even Mak-daddy @Makarios voting yes. Goodbye 850cr! Although if a particular loan I've had for a while gets paid this month, with the 40% bonus creds it'll just about cover it with some to spare. Thanks everyone! 

    KyrraWessux
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 3,149 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No
    Caladbolg said:
    Aldair in my mind is a lv3 weapon for equib classes.

    That being said I assume it's going to 1600 credits.

    Achilles said:
    How much are they increasing it to?  Now seems to be the time to buy even if aldar isn't that important for Infernals and Runewardens.  If they increased it to 1200cr for example, you could still trade it in later for 800cr right?  Doesn't seem like a big risk to buy now as it does have some uses for general skills as well (web tattoo OPed)
    Pretty sure artifacts value is based on what you paid for it not the current price.
    Nope, current price, else I'd have traded in my pendulum (cost 400 cr, tradein 266) and re-bought it for 250, but current tradein is 166.

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • AustereAustere TennesseeMember Posts: 2,225 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    @Tecton can we get any confirmation on price increase and how tradeins will function if we buy before deadline? 
  • AmranuAmranu Member Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2015
    @tecton please let us know the price increase, not letting us know this information seems like you're trying to induce everyone to panic buy, which is extremely damn shady
  • AmranuAmranu Member Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2015
    I don't think it's jumping to conclusions that IRE is artificially inflating demand by not giving their customers full information on the price increases. I think that's evident by this thread alone.
  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 4,918 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    I think you've never really worked with Tecton before on issues relating to money/credits.

    Tecton is exceptionally nice about working with you as absolutely much as he can, and does favours when he can. A little faith won't kill you. It's fine to ask about the price jump, but at least be polite about it.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
  • AmranuAmranu Member Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2015
    Well, the onus is on him to prove this by revealing pricing information. The longer he or IRE refuses to do so, the more obvious this cash grab will become.

    It should be noted that I'm not trying to be rude about this, I am simply stating the current situation relating to this change in artefact pricing. I might be being slightly harsh about it, but it's because I want to be a fully informed consumer, not prey to shady business practices. If my being harsh puts more pressure on IRE to reveal the price, then the ends justify the means.
  • CaladbolgCaladbolg Campbell County TNMember Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Yes
    Agreed Tecton is pretty cool dude. Bought credits before and it gave me the wrong promotion. Not only did Tecton come back and fix it like a bro, but also let me keep the previous promotion as a sorry for giving up (even though I told him it was cool he didn't have to).

    Tesha
  • MorthifMorthif Member Posts: 1,604 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    You may trade in a mask of lifevision and receive 333 Bound Credits for the trade.
    To complete this trade in, enter: ARTEFACT MASK TRADEIN CONFIRM

    You may trade in a Cincture of the Devoted and receive 166 Bound Credits for the trade.
    To complete this trade in, enter: ARTEFACT CINCTURE TRADEIN CONFIRM

    tradein has changed to the new prices.
  • AustereAustere TennesseeMember Posts: 2,225 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes
    Be right back,  buying four SoAs.

    All jokes aside, if you email support for the cincture, they would probably refund your paid price since it didn't come out very long ago..  For mask, you will probably get a "used and enjoyed" response.

    clarification from @Tecton @Makarios or @Sarapis would still go a long way. 
  • JacenJacen Member Posts: 2,304 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I wonder if @Tecton checks his forums and is like "Damnit they've tagged me like 800 fucking times today"
    image
    NimSyri
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 4,764 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Whether or not you're trying to be rude is kind of irrelevant. You're being rude and being an asshole. Tecton was more than fair even giving people a heads up that the price was going to go up. Enjoy that.

    TreyPrythe
  • AmranuAmranu Member Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2015
    Tecton almost certainly doesn't make financial decisions for IRE. People pointing at my comments as attacking Tecton directly are missing the more important point that IRE is artificially inflating demand by saying they're going to raise the price, but not giving us -any- idea whatsoever of how much they're planning on doing so.

    I'm sure Tecton is a cool guy, but he does not make every decision involving Achaea and I imagine this particular move was not made by him.

    EDIT: Also edit because I realize something Cooper was implying above, I'm not upset by any of the price changes. If IRE arbitrarily raised the price without notification, that's their prerogative. If they notified us that they would be raising the price to say, 1000 credits at the end of the month that would be perfectly fine.

    The problem comes when they tell us they're raising the price, but are not explaining by how much causing people to buy diadem just because there might be a chance they raise the price above what they personally would be willing to stomach, even though this might not actually be the case.
  • MorthifMorthif Member Posts: 1,604 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited March 2015
    Yes
    Not interested in trading either in, I was just showing that they adjusted the value to the new price. @Tecton and @Sarapis have never been anything but helpful and accommodating in matters of money and credits. They are a business and it is there job to make you want to buy credits and yet they are still more reasonable then they need to be. 
  • AmranuAmranu Member Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2015
    They can be reasonable by letting us know the price they plan to raise the diadem too, so this money grab can end.

    As I stated above, they had 3 options:

    1) Immediately raise the price: People that were going to buy it may not if it's above their price point, others will still buy it if they consider it valuable.

    2) Raise the price at the end of the month and notify the community of what the price is going to be: No problem here, everyone that wants to buy it at the current price point can buy it now, people that want it later but don't feel like setting aside the funds can choose to either wait or go out of the way to buy it given the difference between prices and how important it is to them. Regardless, consumers are properly informed so they can make a decision.

    3) Do what they are currently doing: here we run into a problem, everyone that wants a diadem but was putting it off are now stuck. Either they buy now or gamble that the price it is raised to will be low enough that they will be able to grab it even after the price change. Because this affects everyone that would potentially buy a diadem in the future, not only those that wouldn't be able to afford it at a future disclosed price point, demand is artificially created causing a large short-term influx of money for IRE. Hence my use of the term 'cash grab'


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