We thought it was a retcon! the whole 'time travel' and paradox thing kinda made people think she may have eventually fallen out at a totally different point in time in a totally different world (Lusternia)
Nope, and that was actually multiple rl years after Lusternia opened.
Thus the time paradox. It's a bit of a stretch, but there are a lot of interesting parallels.
[spoiler] Lusternia's side: Yudhe was the first god (like Lusternia's version of Ayar), and he separated his consciousness to form three children (Magnora, Dynara, and a nameless son). Eventually, the nameless son disappeared through a tear in the fabric of reality, and in that alternate reality he was somehow destroyed, but his essence was scattered through a race in that reality known as humans. The daughters Magnora and Dynara later went through that tear as well, which changed them into something else, and they never returned. Much later, another god (Roark) found the tear, and through it he started communicating with another powerful being who turned out to be a blending of the three children. They managed to open a rift, and that being from the other reality came through and was transformed into Estarra.
Achaea's side (very short version): A being of incomprehensible structure enterred creation from somewhere outside and raped Maya, fathering the human race. Later, Entropy and Discord came through a rip in the fabric of creation, and ended up being dispersed throughout creation. And much later, Eris travels back in time and goes through the rift that the Unnamable Horror entered through.
So if the nameless son became the unnamable horror when going through the tear, and Magnora and Dynara became Entropy and Discord, then Eris was indeed a blending of all three (since she was originally Servelan, a human and therefore a descendant of the unnamable horror, and Entropy and Discord were scattered all through creation), and everything fits together nicely. Of course, the main problem with that is that Lusternia isn't the chaos realm, and Eris didn't take any humans with her when she went through the rift. [/spoiler]
Of course, the main problem with that is that Lusternia isn't the chaos realm, and Eris didn't take any humans with her when she went through the rift.
LOL Lusternia isn't the Chaos realm... hoo boy... that gave me a mighty chuckle.
Hmm, well, I wasn't involved in-game at all from late '07 until spring '12 so I have no idea what Maya intended with that post. It does seem to at least loosely fit with Estarra's origin story if you're willing to accept a retcon. I actually had forgotten Estarra's origin story as I doubt I'd thought about it after about '03 or '04.
Yeah, it seems like a half-assed explanation really, and doesn't fully make sense, but if you ignore some of the details it seems like it may have been intended to make sense. I'm really curious what was intended, so will find out.
It would be fun to see the overlap of Aetolia and Achaea. In my opinion Severn is like our Twilight and Achaea is Aetolia before the Grand Artifice happened. It would be hilarious to see all the Aetolian's flailing around doing spoilers.
"OH GOD, THERA.. EVACUATE NOW BEFORE THE BLACK FOREST WAKES!"
"Oh hey there Belladonna, how are.. ARGH SHE'S STILL A VAMPIRE!"
"Oh Ashtan, and Eleusis... how quaint.. What's this, Targossas isn't owned by the Kelki yet?"
And I'm glad that it isn't canon in Achaea, for sure. It's important, I think, that all factions have a somewhat-defensible position, philosophically/theologically speaking, and that can't happen if there's no mystery behind the Great Veil. If it were ever set in stone as to what, exactly, precisely, scientifically happened, there would be no need to debate these issues anymore, and a huge part of the game's appeal would vanish.
That being said, it would still be interesting to take on Lusternia. They think they bad cause they got aetherships? We got a Bal'met.
sadly, i cry pitifully to myself that i didn't get to taste the divine power during the bal'met event. (however i hear it was zap fest and very laggy on those day.. so i might not be... missing that much?)
2015/01/12
Tecton, the Terraformer has bestowed His divine favour upon you. It will last for approximately 1 Achaean month.
So many good memories from then. I remember running around with @Vansittart, bashing whatever the mobs were there (that weren't dead gods). It was basically our own Achaea buddy cop show: me as the cynical, jaded, past-his-prime Occultist, him as the young but inexperienced hotshot Priest who was ever the optimist, probably @Manifest as the hard-bitten drill sergeant who yelled a lot. And it was awesome.
Yeah, it seems like a half-assed explanation really, and doesn't fully make sense, but if you ignore some of the details it seems like it may have been intended to make sense. I'm really curious what was intended, so will find out.
Part of it was to remove Eris from the picture finally, to try and give @Babel a shot without the schism that had developed between the two factions of Chaos that had formed. I think the details were just kind of thrown together as a way to say, Eris is gone, stop asking, see... she went through a portal and poofed off somewhere else.
sadly, i cry pitifully to myself that i didn't get to taste the divine power during the bal'met event. (however i hear it was zap fest and very laggy on those day.. so i might not be... missing that much?)
...now I miss running around Nishnatoba in Eagle stance, wielding two scimitars(rune bladed), while being morphed into a Jaguar with Reflexes and evading around like a serpent.....
Aurora says, "Tharvis, why are you always breaking things?!" Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh." Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
tbf that was over a year ago, and didn't actually mention pay. Again out of curiosity (I am happily employed), is this an online job, or something that'd involve an office or physical presence, in general?
Wasn't trying to be a smartass (it kinda sounds like it) - I am just honestly surprised that the position was rapidly filled. There seem to be a lot of people with the knowledge and motivation to do this job.
ANNOUNCE NEWS #4023 Date: 01/11/2014 at 21:55 From: Tecton, the Terraformer To : Everyone Subj: We're hiring! Ever wanted to take your passion for Achaea to the next level? Wanting to break into the gaming industry? Here's your opportunity! In the coming months, we plan to hire a team member to focus primarily on events and roleplay. This position will be responsible for working with our team of staff and volunteers to design and execute events on a regular basis. This covers general interest storylines as well as organisation/faction-specific scenarios, on a scale that ranges from small denizen interactions to massive world-wide events like the Bal'met saga. What we're looking for in a candidate: * A detail-oriented self-starter who can take a general concept and bring it to completion. * Exhaustive knowledge and love of Achaea's history, lore, geography, and various factions. * Impeccable writing skills and creativity. * The ability to design, plan, and execute high-quality events on a consistent basis. * Multi-tasking skills, the ability to work on multiple projects at once. As the work is done remotely, the candidate is expected to self-manage his or her time. This is a part-time contract position with the possibility of full-time for the right person. The application process for this position is not a typical one. Every candidate we will consider must first have completed the rigorous Celani/Demigod training process that prepares you for taking up one of our God roles. By participating in the training program, you will acquire/improve upon the requirements mentioned above and learn how to interface with the extensive set of admin tools that the volunteers and staff use to make Achaea happen. Thus, your first step must be to apply to our Celani program, as mentioned in the previous announce post! If you have any questions, please email tecton@achaea.com. Penned by My hand on the 8th of Mayan, in the year 644 AF.
Answers your questions, no?
Aurora says, "Tharvis, why are you always breaking things?!" Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh." Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
Totally missed the "remotely" there - and feeling a bit salty about it.
To be clear, I was just pointing out that it could probably be more clearly described** - if you're looking to generate interest. ** (they have various part-time, and possibly even full-time volunteers, that are "part of the team", etc, so nothing there would indicate that the job would involve actually being paid)
I mean, I'm a white-collar IT field recruiter (aka headhunter) - and I'd firmly advise any client of mine to be more clear and probably a bit more vocal, if getting the seat filled is any kind of a priority. Just trying to be helpful.
I've volunteered on a couple of sites that were tabletop gaming sites as an ST, and the amount of juggling required to hold a small venue of less than 20 together is kind of difficult, with something as large as Achaea, I'm not surprised the vetting process takes so long.
I'm like a lot of people and think this would be a dream job, but ultimately, the indefinite unpaid internship beforehand and thinking about the loss of my investment in my character to try it keeps me from applying.
(I think it's safe to go ahead and assume we've abandoned the OP)
@Erhon I'd feel the same way if it was something I was able to consider>
What really blew my mind is that this is actually how like... every single Japanese company works. College grads are hired as "temp employees" with no guarantee of a full-time position or retention. They get paid crumbs, and are legally allowed to (and thus usually) keep temps for 3 years before they have to offer a staff seat.
I've always thought it was a terrifying business model, because a resume that says "I worked in company X for 3 years as temp worker / intern, and wasn't offered a position" doesn't exactly blow anyone's hats off. I would never even consider taking such a job, but this is like, what everyone does here (Tokyo). There's no wonder it's one of the most depressed, stressed, and (sadly) suicidal countries on earth.
To be honest it sounds like a job I'd love to get into, especially with it being paid and such, but I just don't want to scrap my character, and to turn my pasttime into my job. Not yet.
One thing I promised myself years ago is that while becoming a God was something I'd love to do down the line, I'd want a better OOC situation, have fully run out of storyline for Melodie and done all the major goals I've been striving for, and last but most importantly, have managed to detach myself from the social circle of players as well as I can so the social parting isn't such a heartbreaking thing.
Maybe one day some years down the road, though.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
I had a thought for this, except it was in the other direction - the world of Sapience in the future, perhaps 1,000 years forward, perhaps more.
Guns were discovered (had to happen, sooner or later..), along with steam power and coal. Magic exists, and the lands far beyond the mainland have been explored a great deal - but not completely. The countries of Ashtan and Cyrene have largely dominated Sapience's mainland. Targossas holds little power on the mainland - a token city that was founded by the Bloodsworn - but their real power lies in their conversions across the sea, from the zealots of Zanzibaar (since their royal family converted to the Bloodsworn) to the continent discovered beyond, which has become the Jewel of the East for those who seek to serve Creation.
Eleusis became a strange sort of curiosity. A schism occurred amidst a rapidly-urbanizing landscape. Some believed that the mainland was doomed, and that they should follow Targossas' example in preserving nature beyond the sea - these people made great strides with the Tuari, Ageiro, and the many islands to the West, finding difficulty only in Karbaz which has since become a colony of Ashtan. Others believed that the only way to defend Nature would be to act as nomads - and such became the wild people: sometimes seeking peace in nature, sometimes raiding those that have become too 'civilized' for their tastes, but always defending Nature.
Mhaldor, unable to withstand the animosity of the rest of Sapience, was defeated after the War of Suffering: over one century of perpetual warfare. Since the conflict's end, worship of Lord Sartan has been banned in most countries, and the island's blighted remnants that once stood as the seat of Lord Sartan's power was annexed into Ashtan's jurisdiction. However, His followers scattered: assuming new identities and spreading across each country like a disease, they serve Evil while masquerading under a guise of any cause, spreading the Truths when they're able, sowing the seeds of conflict when convenient, gathering in the darkest corners of the world, and following the Seven Truths with faith that only a true believer may possess.
Despite Cyrene's early isolationist policies, their explorers and scholars were ultimately the first to unlock the secrets of the old Seleucarian Empire and breaking new ground with discovering the lands farthest South. This would bring rise to an abrupt conflict with Ashtan, who sought to uncover such mysteries for the pursuit of dominance over other, "lesser" cities. Through a war of attrition, aided in part by Ashtan bearing the brunt of the recently-ended War of Suffering, the continent of Meropis would become the Meropian Protectorate in name, under Cyrene's jurisdiction. In practice, Cyrene's principles of refuge, honour, the arts, and prosperity through industry were welcomed by the many villages and smaller cities in Meropis, and talks of unification among both Cyrene's Senate and the Meropian Council are currently underway.
Licking their wounds from both the War of Suffering from the West and the recent conflict with Cyrene from the South, Ashtan would set out to conquer the lands to the East and to the North. Declaring himself Emperor, and taking advantage of the new truce with Cyrene, the Overseer would rally his city toward the largest-scale conquest that Sapience has ever known: claiming Tasur'ke for its second major harbour, the Ashtani Empire would sweep North to claim territory reaching Anake's Elbow. Istar Jungle's Tsol'dasi try desperately to maintain their culture in the face of a superior military, while Ashtan recruits the mercenaries of Suliel to prepare a suitable base of operations to strike if negotiations do not proceed as planned.
Lord Thoth claims everyone in the end, as all know well - but there exist ancient beings who defy even this expectation. Counting a mere several-hundred in number, Dragons exist - powerful beings that may alter their appearances to that of other mortals, breathe primal energies, survive a hail of bullets, and even endure beyond death. Such was discovered by those who successfully slayed such beings, only to have the wyrm's remains crumble to dust and the beast emerge, whole and vengeful, from the skies above them. Some make their presence known and become objects of fear, admiration, or even worship; others blend into the various populations in secret, assuming their Dragonform only out of dire need and disappearing like ghosts when the threat passes.
The Flame of Yggdrasil fades into the realms of myth and superstition, joining the ranks of grumpkins, snarks, and Hashan.
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[spoiler]
Lusternia's side: Yudhe was the first god (like Lusternia's version of Ayar), and he separated his consciousness to form three children (Magnora, Dynara, and a nameless son). Eventually, the nameless son disappeared through a tear in the fabric of reality, and in that alternate reality he was somehow destroyed, but his essence was scattered through a race in that reality known as humans. The daughters Magnora and Dynara later went through that tear as well, which changed them into something else, and they never returned. Much later, another god (Roark) found the tear, and through it he started communicating with another powerful being who turned out to be a blending of the three children. They managed to open a rift, and that being from the other reality came through and was transformed into Estarra.
Achaea's side (very short version): A being of incomprehensible structure enterred creation from somewhere outside and raped Maya, fathering the human race. Later, Entropy and Discord came through a rip in the fabric of creation, and ended up being dispersed throughout creation. And much later, Eris travels back in time and goes through the rift that the Unnamable Horror entered through.
So if the nameless son became the unnamable horror when going through the tear, and Magnora and Dynara became Entropy and Discord, then Eris was indeed a blending of all three (since she was originally Servelan, a human and therefore a descendant of the unnamable horror, and Entropy and Discord were scattered all through creation), and everything fits together nicely. Of course, the main problem with that is that Lusternia isn't the chaos realm, and Eris didn't take any humans with her when she went through the rift.
[/spoiler]
"OH GOD, THERA.. EVACUATE NOW BEFORE THE BLACK FOREST WAKES!"
"Oh hey there Belladonna, how are.. ARGH SHE'S STILL A VAMPIRE!"
"Oh Ashtan, and Eleusis... how quaint.. What's this, Targossas isn't owned by the Kelki yet?"
But on the note of Lusternia - FIGURINE BATTLES!!
That being said, it would still be interesting to take on Lusternia. They think they bad cause they got aetherships? We got a Bal'met.
Well... had. But I bet we could get another one.
Scratch the 'probably.'
@Mathonwy (He asked me to tag him when I found out.)
I do want to respond properly, but im not typing all that on a phone. Will type stuff later when I have a keyboard.
Have you uh... offered to pay this person? I only ask because I'm curious.
Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
tbf that was over a year ago, and didn't actually mention pay. Again out of curiosity (I am happily employed), is this an online job, or something that'd involve an office or physical presence, in general?
Wasn't trying to be a smartass (it kinda sounds like it) - I am just honestly surprised that the position was rapidly filled. There seem to be a lot of people with the knowledge and motivation to do this job.
Answers your questions, no?
Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
Totally missed the "remotely" there - and feeling a bit salty about it.
To be clear, I was just pointing out that it could probably be more clearly described** - if you're looking to generate interest. ** (they have various part-time, and possibly even full-time volunteers, that are "part of the team", etc, so nothing there would indicate that the job would involve actually being paid)
I mean, I'm a white-collar IT field recruiter (aka headhunter) - and I'd firmly advise any client of mine to be more clear and probably a bit more vocal, if getting the seat filled is any kind of a priority. Just trying to be helpful.
I'm like a lot of people and think this would be a dream job, but ultimately, the indefinite unpaid internship beforehand and thinking about the loss of my investment in my character to try it keeps me from applying.
(I think it's safe to go ahead and assume we've abandoned the OP)
@Erhon I'd feel the same way if it was something I was able to consider>
What really blew my mind is that this is actually how like... every single Japanese company works. College grads are hired as "temp employees" with no guarantee of a full-time position or retention. They get paid crumbs, and are legally allowed to (and thus usually) keep temps for 3 years before they have to offer a staff seat.
I've always thought it was a terrifying business model, because a resume that says "I worked in company X for 3 years as temp worker / intern, and wasn't offered a position" doesn't exactly blow anyone's hats off. I would never even consider taking such a job, but this is like, what everyone does here (Tokyo). There's no wonder it's one of the most depressed, stressed, and (sadly) suicidal countries on earth.
One thing I promised myself years ago is that while becoming a God was something I'd love to do down the line, I'd want a better OOC situation, have fully run out of storyline for Melodie and done all the major goals I've been striving for, and last but most importantly, have managed to detach myself from the social circle of players as well as I can so the social parting isn't such a heartbreaking thing.
Maybe one day some years down the road, though.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Guns were discovered (had to happen, sooner or later..), along with steam power and coal. Magic exists, and the lands far beyond the mainland have been explored a great deal - but not completely. The countries of Ashtan and Cyrene have largely dominated Sapience's mainland. Targossas holds little power on the mainland - a token city that was founded by the Bloodsworn - but their real power lies in their conversions across the sea, from the zealots of Zanzibaar (since their royal family converted to the Bloodsworn) to the continent discovered beyond, which has become the Jewel of the East for those who seek to serve Creation.
Eleusis became a strange sort of curiosity. A schism occurred amidst a rapidly-urbanizing landscape. Some believed that the mainland was doomed, and that they should follow Targossas' example in preserving nature beyond the sea - these people made great strides with the Tuari, Ageiro, and the many islands to the West, finding difficulty only in Karbaz which has since become a colony of Ashtan. Others believed that the only way to defend Nature would be to act as nomads - and such became the wild people: sometimes seeking peace in nature, sometimes raiding those that have become too 'civilized' for their tastes, but always defending Nature.
Mhaldor, unable to withstand the animosity of the rest of Sapience, was defeated after the War of Suffering: over one century of perpetual warfare. Since the conflict's end, worship of Lord Sartan has been banned in most countries, and the island's blighted remnants that once stood as the seat of Lord Sartan's power was annexed into Ashtan's jurisdiction. However, His followers scattered: assuming new identities and spreading across each country like a disease, they serve Evil while masquerading under a guise of any cause, spreading the Truths when they're able, sowing the seeds of conflict when convenient, gathering in the darkest corners of the world, and following the Seven Truths with faith that only a true believer may possess.
Despite Cyrene's early isolationist policies, their explorers and scholars were ultimately the first to unlock the secrets of the old Seleucarian Empire and breaking new ground with discovering the lands farthest South. This would bring rise to an abrupt conflict with Ashtan, who sought to uncover such mysteries for the pursuit of dominance over other, "lesser" cities. Through a war of attrition, aided in part by Ashtan bearing the brunt of the recently-ended War of Suffering, the continent of Meropis would become the Meropian Protectorate in name, under Cyrene's jurisdiction. In practice, Cyrene's principles of refuge, honour, the arts, and prosperity through industry were welcomed by the many villages and smaller cities in Meropis, and talks of unification among both Cyrene's Senate and the Meropian Council are currently underway.
Licking their wounds from both the War of Suffering from the West and the recent conflict with Cyrene from the South, Ashtan would set out to conquer the lands to the East and to the North. Declaring himself Emperor, and taking advantage of the new truce with Cyrene, the Overseer would rally his city toward the largest-scale conquest that Sapience has ever known: claiming Tasur'ke for its second major harbour, the Ashtani Empire would sweep North to claim territory reaching Anake's Elbow. Istar Jungle's Tsol'dasi try desperately to maintain their culture in the face of a superior military, while Ashtan recruits the mercenaries of Suliel to prepare a suitable base of operations to strike if negotiations do not proceed as planned.
Lord Thoth claims everyone in the end, as all know well - but there exist ancient beings who defy even this expectation. Counting a mere several-hundred in number, Dragons exist - powerful beings that may alter their appearances to that of other mortals, breathe primal energies, survive a hail of bullets, and even endure beyond death. Such was discovered by those who successfully slayed such beings, only to have the wyrm's remains crumble to dust and the beast emerge, whole and vengeful, from the skies above them. Some make their presence known and become objects of fear, admiration, or even worship; others blend into the various populations in secret, assuming their Dragonform only out of dire need and disappearing like ghosts when the threat passes.
The Flame of Yggdrasil fades into the realms of myth and superstition, joining the ranks of grumpkins, snarks, and Hashan.