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You mean like we have now?
Some of us can only push one F key at a time @Sarapis, because we only have one finger in a cast (so we can't move it to other F keys). Clearly this is a slight against the handicapped. #wewillovercome. You have no idea how long it took me to type this with only one finger.
Mobs in Imperian that are capable of hitting non-heavily artifacted people for ~40% of their health in one hit, same mob also has access (albeit low trigger rate) to incinerate. Pls add this. It's hilarious seeing those deathsights.
I'm sure Trey would be camping the crap out of the last ones, if you could smelt their stuff.
I might even hunt, ever, if that happened. I don't as it is
Love the sound of these changes, though it makes perfect sense that when I finally decide to make the push for dragon, the entire PvE system gets a revamp...lol.
More Area of Effect abilities would be neat. Magi has the flavour to be a glass cannon, for example, and being able to use abilities like holobomb in a room full of goblin zombies, for example, would be a lot of fun. Having the surviving zombies target you afterwards would also be part of the fun. Risk vs. Reward and so forth. Would be nicely paired up with, say, a Knight partner who followed up with defend to help soak up the damage and another group member to help take down the now damaged zombies.
...I am so freakin' excited now for this. I would be willing to die a couple times to over-aggro just to blow up a group of mobs for shits 'n' giggles.
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Yeah, it never fails. I go to an MMO, play for a couple of months, get bored, and come right back to Achaea. I've done this for almost 10 years. Now I've finally realized, I just need to stick with Achaea and quit wasting my time elsewhere.
I hope we get some sort of "threat" system so those of us who are a bit tankier can encourage mobs to attack us and leave our party mates alone. However, I'm loving the idea of a PVE revamp that allows me to use more skills and actually have to think a bit.
Ideas for PvE class changes:
Alchemist: AoE debuff increases damage damage to all mobs
Apotatos: Ability to debuff mob damage and regain health.
Bard: Ability to increase allies damage against mobs.
Blademaster: Ability to afflict a mob with fear.
Dragon: Ability does no damage, but gains massive aggro for up to 3 mobs.
Jester: Badjoke makes all sentient mobs' next attack into a slap emote against the jester instead.
Knights: Ability that increases aggro given by dsl, and prevents mobs from running.
Monk: Make Mind Empathy easier? Or almost guaranteed to sustain mindlock with an ally when in the same room.
Occie: New entity (with assessible health) that can randomly shift aggro of everyone in the room on command. Entity will reduce threat of its occie.
Priest: Ability to reduce aggro on one person.
Meta users: Claw has less aggro, but crit more often. Maul for normal aggro. Bear shred useable on mobs, higher aggro, does bleed damage- damage scales with aggro.
Elementalism users: Ability that does AoE dmg to mobs. Make gust useable on mobs.
Shaman: A new curse that increases or decreases aggro, and a new curse that increases someone's chances to crit for a short time.
coolio.
This already exists, though it's a pain in the ass. Effectively, if you're in a group of many mobs, you can make any number of them focus on you by being the last to hit them. What this means is, you have to strike things further down on IH (I think, but am not sure, that hitting creatures by their name (i.e. 'orc') hits the first 'orc' listed on IH), identifying them by number. That's how I've always done 'tanking' in Achaea, at any rate.
Downside is it's a pain in the ass, of course. I have to confess, I'm set in my ways, so I haven't tried 'DSL orc#2'- does that work? Not sure if that works/is not affected by holding corpses in your inventory.
I think this is great. I hated pve mostly because doing the same thing for hours is boring. New bashing abilities to mix things up would be great, especially if it's more than just a flavor change.
Ooh! Give them a bleed DoT they can start with to maximize dps. Shin idea broken IMO.
I though about giving them a taunt, but it doesn't fit their kit... and I honestly don't know how shin works, except that it is kinda like kai.
DoT can be engaging in longer fights, but not really useful with how quickly things die right now. If you're taking on a mob that takes 2-3 people to kill, a DoT can be very beneficial.
I'd be fine with DoTs as long as there are other ways to fight as well, but it would make things like shaman bleed a lot more interesting with how much it stacks. Also, DoTs should take a lot of balance.
I think every class should have around 3 bashing/hunting abilities, which currently is only runewarden with group heals, group buffs, dsl, rsl.
if every class had something similar to this, it would be a lot more fun.
Shin works by building up as you attack instead of getting attacked, and it's basically Kai - except much less potent. A Blademaster requires some level of Shin for any sort of fighting and gains/loses it really fast, while Monk is a much more of a slow build up to more potent abilities. Having Shin in PvP would let Blademasters infuse their strikes for different elements (maybe different effects on the mobs based off element) which would likely be a tad stronger than a normal slash at base anyway.
E: Basically, I fully support letting Blademasters get shin from mobs because it would be cool as hell and it builds fast enough that hitting a mule would only save like fifteen to thirty seconds of smacking.
VV Much cooler than you.
Why not also make certain kinds of weapons more effective against certain kinds of denizens than others? At the very simplest level, armoured denizens could be more susceptible to blunt weapons (like maces) and less to piercing weapons (like rapiers). This might encourage people to use a wider variety of weapons and could make fighting as a knight more interesting. At a more complicated level, the weapons could be on a sliding scale. For example. a club is 100% blunt, rapier is 100% piercing, broadswords are 80% cutting, 20% piercing, or whatever. The idea would be for each weapon to be a unique mix of 2 or 3 characteristics which provide a reason to use them.
I think you all are reading far too much into this point right here. The plan doesn't seem to be "extensive PvE combat system with tanks and healers and dps", but more along the lines, "you will bash like normal but have other abilities to maximize what you're already doing".
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Alright, to state: I haven't read past the first few post due to time restrictions. So if what I say beyond this point has already been said, that's the reason.
That said, I do like the idea of this, so long as it doesn't go overboard.
Some areas are fun -because- it's a ton of little things that will hurt you very badly in groups, but die easily...so the idea becomes to kill them as fast as possible. Mind you this is rare and usually dependent on random mob stacking. Hope you guys consider that one.
To adds a few examples more specific to class play:
-I found monk a fun class to hunt with. Why? Because you have to juggle a few skills to survive and prevail. Numbing, stances, attacking, transmuting, hammer (if you bother with breaking shields). A very active class, but not overboard. Too much more and it'd be a bit excessive. Not every player would want to swap through ten aliases just to grind for gold.
-Occultist, was boring. Prep, warp indefinitely, sometimes Empress for extra health or Astralform as an emergency button. I hope this sort of hunting receives a lot of love. Chaos Rays AOE or somesuch. :P
-Knight is a bit more interesting than Occultist due to DSL, razing, rune usage such as Uruz and Raido (if things go south), etc, but could use something more. Maybe the ability to lunge into a room for a first strike.
A final point I'd like to bring up - another thing I think PvE could really use is 'instanced dungeons'. A respawn system like it has is good for smaller communities, but when you get a lot of people out at once, a good amount will end up staring at empty hunting grounds and waiting for timers that a lot of people have their own little alarm clocks set for. Especially when you get higher levels bashing lower level areas (no hate there, it's just a factor). Hunting is still very doable in Achaea, but there are gaps that are painful during the level progression and generally lend to saying 'screw it' over doing something else. Manara, Actar, Tenwat, Dun Fortress are just a few examples. I doubt nor do I hope that it ends up wholly changed, but I think some instanced areas for differing levels could ease those pains?