Class-specific subforums

Tecton

Just a quick note to let you guys know that I've gone through and added some class-specific categories to the forums! We hope that these will provide a more focused arena to ask questions and seek enlightenment about your class - enjoy!

Santar

Really dislike it. Sure, the person making a topic or asking a question can go there easily enough to post their topic, but what you've failed to account for is the fact that anyone willing to answer questions will most likely not see the thread due to them being buried deep in sub-forum hell. There's so many of them - Am I really going to click on all 15-16 or whatever to scroll through topics? A lot of people that are qualified to answer questions are fluent in a good number of classes, if not all of them, while the number of people actually of a class(and inclined to visit that subforum/knowledgable enough to answer) may be virtually non-existent. This change will make threads considerably less likely to be seen/get posted in, thus denying help to the person who created it. Should've just left them all together. 

Sarapis

Don't you just hit 'recent discussions' and look through the list of recently touched discussions? That's how I peruse the forums, at least, to make sure I'm not missing anything that looks interesting.

Klendathu

No Dragon category?

Santar

Sarapis said:

Don't you just hit 'recent discussions' and look through the list of recently touched discussions? That's how I peruse the forums, at least, to make sure I'm not missing anything that looks interesting.

Then that just defeats the purpose of having categories altogether, if you're encouraging viewers to just swamp everything all together.

Jules

Santar said:

Sarapis said:

Don't you just hit 'recent discussions' and look through the list of recently touched discussions? That's how I peruse the forums, at least, to make sure I'm not missing anything that looks interesting.

Then that just defeats the purpose of having categories altogether, if you're encouraging viewers to just swamp everything all together.

I think Tecton is trying to create a repository.  It's less about what things look like now (and yes, I just use recent discussions) and more about what people might be looking for later.  People will hopefully reply based on recent discussions, but they'll go to a class category to look at stuff about their class.

Santar

Like, for example, the Druid subforum hasn't had a post on it since October 2013. I'm sure that if someone posted a Druid question, that there are people that would be willing to reply, however, are those people going to be checking the Druid subforum regularly when there hasn't been a post in it in almost a year? Seems like a good way to stagnate that portion of the forums.

Santar

Jules said:

Santar said:

Sarapis said:

Don't you just hit 'recent discussions' and look through the list of recently touched discussions? That's how I peruse the forums, at least, to make sure I'm not missing anything that looks interesting.

Then that just defeats the purpose of having categories altogether, if you're encouraging viewers to just swamp everything all together.

I think Tecton is trying to create a repository.  It's less about what things look like now (and yes, I just use recent discussions) and more about what people might be looking for later.  People will hopefully reply based on recent discussions, but they'll go to a class category to look at stuff about their class.

If that's the case, then the ideal way to do it would be to have the topics listed in two different places: The normal combat/class discussions, then each could also be listed in a subforum of their own for people wanting to browse archived information.

Tecton

Santar said:

Like, for example, the Druid subforum hasn't had a post on it since October 2013. I'm sure that if someone posted a Druid question, that there are people that would be willing to reply, however, are those people going to be checking the Druid subforum regularly when there hasn't been a post in it in almost a year? Seems like a good way to stagnate that portion of the forums.

Well, they were just the ones that got moved out of the general Matsuhama arena category. I imagine now that people know they're here and available, there will be more activity in them!

Jules

You mean put them as subforums of Matsuhama?  Yeah, that might be even better.

Tecton

I've adjusted their position in the tree structure, so they're all visible from the front page now too!

Cooper

recent discussions isn't available on mobile, so you have to scroll past all those classes to get to some sections

Santar

Tecton said:

I've adjusted their position in the tree structure, so they're all visible from the front page now too!

Lmao you best be joking.

Jules

It does push the Sewers waaaaaaaay to the bottom, too.  Well played, heh.  Even so, I like the idea of a more categorized repository, and Tecton's even taken the trouble to categorize some of the older discussions into them.  There will still be a lot of overlap (because of class vs class), but it seems like a step up.

Silas

Cooper said:

recent discussions isn't available on mobile, so you have to scroll past all those classes to get to some sections

Yeah it is. The link is literally just http://forums.achaea.com/discussions.

Jovolo

The extended page is so trippy. This is going to take ages for me to get used to! Specific class forums is kind of cool though, I guess.

I just had a quick browse through and some of the discussions are in the wrong subforums. A thread about Druid's freeze pound is archived in the Apostate subforum, for example.

Tecton

Jovolo said:

The extended page is so trippy. This is going to take ages for me to get used to! Specific class forums is kind of cool though, I guess.

I just had a quick browse through and some of the discussions are in the wrong subforums. A thread about Druid's freeze pound is archived in the Apostate subforum, for example.

These forums have an annoyingly imprecise drag-and-drop interface, so that's entirely likely! I'll go through and clean them up as I see them.

Dunn

The extended page means that it is no longer worth the effort to scroll all the way down to rants.

I see what you're doing here, @Tecton.

Itkovian

Paladin subforum has a long discussion on Inquisition. At least we share a skill with Priests, so it's not too inappropriate.

Kayeil

For those ranting about the main page being too long, you can just hover over the category and click the gear icon to "Hide" the ones you don't want to see. That's what I'm doing for all classes but shaman.

Karai

Thank you for giving people who do not know how to lazily fight a particular class, despite many weaknesses, a venue to complain and propose nerfs where lateral moves or changes elsewhere are needed. At least today wasn't all bad. My alarm went off on time--it was my fire alarm. -sigh-

Just so I'm not being ungrateful, I do see the value in it for discussing how the class works, asking questions or just offering insight.. even going over classleads.

Jhaeli

Contrary to some of the comments here, I am tickled by this addition and have already found an immense amount of helpful information. Thanks muchly!

Sena

Kayeil said:

For those ranting about the main page being too long, you can just hover over the category and click the gear icon to "Hide" the ones you don't want to see. That's what I'm doing for all classes but shaman.

That's only useful if you actually never want to see any threads in that section. Hiding a category like that also hides threads in that category when you look at recent or unread discussions.

Eiredhel

Cooper said:

recent discussions isn't available on mobile, so you have to scroll past all those classes to get to some sections

Just scroll down on your phone to the bottom and click full site version. That's what I do. 

Sena

Eiredhel said:

Cooper said:

recent discussions isn't available on mobile, so you have to scroll past all those classes to get to some sections

Just scroll down on your phone to the bottom and click full site version. That's what I do. 

If for some reason you can't simply type in the URL (forums.achaea.com/discussions), you can get there by clicking the icon at the top right to start a new discussion, then clicking cancel, which will take you to recent discussions.

Kresslack

Santar said:

Like, for example, the Druid subforum hasn't had a post on it since October 2013. I'm sure that if someone posted a Druid question, that there are people that would be willing to reply, however, are those people going to be checking the Druid subforum regularly when there hasn't been a post in it in almost a year? Seems like a good way to stagnate that portion of the forums.

I think the whole point of Tecton added the section, and making this announcement about it, is so that people -will- check their class related sub-sections frequently. It in no way stagnates a portion of the forum, but rather draws attention to it and encourages people to use it and be active in it, imo.

Caladbolg

Sweet now I don't have to type a class into the search bar to try to find old class related discussions and sorting through 500 posts that have nothing to do with that class.

Which is highly useful for learning how a class works when you just changed and assumingly when you just start.

Cooper

So you can access the 'recent discussions' page by typing in the address or going to multiple pages in an annoying manner. I'd prefer there just be something you could click for 'recent discussions', because it's just as annoying getting to that as it is scrolling down 52 pages to bypass the class subforums.

Yae

Cooper said:

So you can access the 'recent discussions' page by typing in the address or going to multiple pages in an annoying manner. I'd prefer there just be something you could click for 'recent discussions', because it's just as annoying getting to that as it is scrolling down 52 pages to bypass the class subforums.

You can just bookmark the links you want on your mobile browser's bookmarks..

Halos

just bookmark them you noob

what Yae said

Trey

Not trying to rag on Tecton or anything, but is there any way to remove that huge fuckin' block of class forums? I'm probably never going to pop in there.