Quick Questions

Lyr

I'm not speccing JUST for hunting, really (really speccing for combat), I was just wondering if my current human champion self is better for hunting than dwarf. If so, I can "suffer" as a human until I get 99, then switch.

Thanks for the input!

Kaden

Lyr said:

Achilles said:

I don't think mana weaver is worth it personally.  I don't even think devout is worth it either, the extra 2% regen per hour is pointless, you really only regen devotion when you are logged out of Achaea anyways.  I'd take imbued over either of those.  I have both and a trait reset, I think I'll take imbued and either master forger (but then I'd have to buy a hammer again) or glass shatterer.

Because of diminishing returns on strength (and hence smite) I'd recommend Dwarf miner.  

I have another minor trait at 90 (when I get there), and I was thinking of choosing imbued. The only other one that seems remotely worth it is blissful ignorance.

Do you suggest I wait until dragon or reincarnate now?

I chose venomous blood because I'm deathly afraid of Iocun's envenomed pitchfork hurler.

Dorn

Eld said:

Your coding whiz also needs the patience to gather enough data to come up with a sufficiently accurate limb damage formula for Two Arts, which I've yet to see.

...You helped me design my counter. I based the initial estimates of it off of your work and improved on them. My counter's probably the most accurate available at the moment, and I can't say I've heard many complaints about its accuracy (even though I know for a fact it still falters at certain thresholds).

What do you mean you haven't seen one with enough accuracy?

Rheve

Another racial specialisation and trait question.

As a dwarf monk (non-artied and interested in combat mostly, and some bashing for gold), I have the following:

 

Specialisation      Str.        Dex.        Con.        Int.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Unspecialised       12          11          13          12
Brawler                14          11          13          11
Crafter                  12          13          12          12
Miner                    12          10          15          12
Foreman              11          11          13          14

Racial:   Earthborn
Level 20: Nimble                  
Level 30: Triage                  
Level 40: Fully fit               
Level 50: Robust                  
Level 60: Master contemplator     
Level 70: Health weaver           
Level 80: Receptive body          
Level 90: Mana weaver    

Did I choose correctly according to my race and interests? Does anyone have suggestions?

 

Eld

Dorn said:

Eld said:

Your coding whiz also needs the patience to gather enough data to come up with a sufficiently accurate limb damage formula for Two Arts, which I've yet to see.

...You helped me design my counter. I based the initial estimates of it off of your work and improved on them. My counter's probably the most accurate available at the moment, and I can't say I've heard many complaints about its accuracy (even though I know for a fact it still falters at certain thresholds).

What do you mean you haven't seen one with enough accuracy?

It's accurate enough for most situations, yes, especially with a little experience dealing with the edge cases. But not accurate enough to hit F1 and break perfectly every time, as was presented in the comment I was responding to.

Lyr

Rheve said:

Another racial specialisation and trait question.

As a dwarf monk (non-artied and interested in combat mostly, and some bashing for gold), I have the following:

 

Specialisation      Str.        Dex.        Con.        Int.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Unspecialised       12          11          13          12
Brawler                14          11          13          11
Crafter                  12          13          12          12
Miner                    12          10          15          12
Foreman              11          11          13          14

Racial:   Earthborn
Level 20: Nimble                  
Level 30: Triage                  
Level 40: Fully fit               
Level 50: Robust                  
Level 60: Master contemplator     
Level 70: Health weaver           
Level 80: Receptive body          
Level 90: Mana weaver    

Did I choose correctly according to my race and interests? Does anyone have suggestions?

 

Echoed above, I think you should choose one resistance. Do you really need fully fit?

Mizik

Stock SLEEP is already such a massive Endurance regen, I wouldn't bother with it. Willpower will always leave you crying as monk, no matter how many regen multipliers.

Cooper

Trans philosophy, circlet, master contemplator and a megalith tattoo most of the time and I still cry about willpower

Rheve

Would the marksman trait be worth it to one who has a ranger's bow? Does anyone know what the accuracy bonus is exactly?

Sena

Considering the lack of useful minor traits, marksman is definitely worth a slot for anyone who uses bows.

Iocun

Anyone who isn't a serpent, at least. It's very hard to miss as a serpent with an artie bow, unless you are facing someone with projectiles or arrowcatch.

Aerek

Mizik said:

Game needs more top tier. It's us same like 5 dudes fighting each other over and over.

Anyone has any more potentially complex questions, just ask. I'll give it right up.

Have you taken a shot at Damnation? I'm tired of hearing Paladins complain about it, but I haven't been able to find anything that works reliably, either.

Wessux

Does anyone know where I can get an in game cloudbow?

Synbios

Rom said:

I've heard in the past that knights who change to a different knight class can wear their Fullplate even with inept forging. Is this true? 

Does this imply that if one is classchanging to a knight and doesn't wish to forge for money then they would be well off transing Forging exclusively, borrowing hammer, forging an acceptable fullplate, quitting for half of the lessons back, and then rejoining class?  (bonus points for truefavor)

On a related note - can large embers still grant Forging?

Unable to test, but HELP ARMOUR says that fullplate is class-based, so I'm guessing that regardless of your level of Forging, you should be able to wear it, as long as you were the one who forged it. 

Garao

@Mizik - Greetings @Mizik I have not played Achaea in several months and I would very much like to discuss brokenstar with you as I hear it is just about impossible to stop if you get double broken on an impaleslash. I have thought about it and I have come up with the possibility of conserving mana by clotting to 500 with sipping mana and mossing with a healthy dose of 'show bleeding' in between every bladetwist. I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter as I cannot practically test right now. Thank you very much. 

Garao.

I have a second query for you @Mizik. Greetings @Mizik, I hear that a frenzied vivisect is impossible to stop from several members of the ACC. I will not name and shame, but I am astounded at this notion. Is it true, or are the ACC simply chosen by their amount of artefacts/level and of no relevance to actual combat knowledge? Thank you. 

Garao.

By my calculations I have one more wish. I will think on it and get back to you. Thank you. 

Garao.

Iocun

Everything is impossible to stop.

Garao

The last time I checked @Iocun you are not in fact @Mizik and therefore you are not qualified to answer the questions I directed at @Mizik because you are not a genie thank you have a good day.

Cooper

Garao said:

@Mizik - Greetings @Mizik I have not played Achaea in several months and I would very much like to discuss brokenstar with you as I hear it is just about impossible to stop if you get double broken on an impaleslash. I have thought about it and I have come up with the possibility of conserving mana by clotting to 500 with sipping mana and mossing with a healthy dose of 'show bleeding' in between every bladetwist. I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter as I cannot practically test right now. Thank you very much. 

Garao.

I have a second query for you @Mizik. Greetings @Mizik, I hear that a frenzied vivisect is impossible to stop from several members of the ACC. I will not name and shame, but I am astounded at this notion. Is it true, or are the ACC simply chosen by their amount of artefacts/level and of no relevance to actual combat knowledge? Thank you. 

Garao.

By my calculations I have one more wish. I will think on it and get back to you. Thank you. 

Garao.

Frenzied vivisect with the proper setup is not stoppable through the conventional "100%" avoidance of vivisect.

Brokenstar IS possible to avoid if you are double broke while impaleslashed. You just need a MASSIVE amount of mana and robes of the magi. (I was able to avoid Mizik's in dragon with around 7.5k mana). It was pretty close, though.

Garao

@Cooper although you are not @Mizik I'd like for you to discuss with me in PM's exactly how frenzied vivisect is "impossible" to stop. 

(no really, i'm curious as to why you think this?) I'll PM you.

Cooper

Aerek said:

Mizik said:

Game needs more top tier. It's us same like 5 dudes fighting each other over and over.

Anyone has any more potentially complex questions, just ask. I'll give it right up.

Have you taken a shot at Damnation? I'm tired of hearing Paladins complain about it, but I haven't been able to find anything that works reliably, either.

Damnation was possible pre-traits with fast rapiers (~230+) against people who didn't pre-outrift kelp or bloodroot with a variety of setups. It was entirely luck based on people who did pre-outrift (I think there was some like 20% chance of it working. They had to not focus the right affliction and not eat for the right affliction twice or something). Post-traits I can't think of a setup that will work against someone curing properly. Maybe Salik's ~255 speed rapiers could get something done, but I'm not sure.

Plus the original damnation setup I talk about required four limbs to be setup and five for the people who pre-outrifted, something that Tirac says is ridiculous to have to do for vivisect, but is what I did to use damnation on the ~25 people I used it on.

Chryenth

Iocun is qualified. The certificates proving so are being processed by Cyreneian paperwork-monkeys.

So they'll be here sometime before the Year 700 Games.

Mizik

@Aerek Assuming no Fitness, every Damnation prep is luck based. Because smoke balance doesn't exist, asthma is required. Current preps involve stacking kelp or focusing affs (two different preps) to land a Hellsight before the opponent can cure athsma.To be honest, it's been a while since I played Paladin, but I remember it being a lot of prep for a % chance of success.

@Garao No point in saving mana. Just manual clot to 0. Even so, since the blademaster can scale bleeding over 1500, without Robes of the Magi, a massive mana pool, or active mana regen abilities survival rate pretty slim.

@Garao Closer to the other way around. Like Disembowel, with the right curing pattern Vivisect should be nearly mechanically impossible to pull off. Especially should the opponent have a way of stopping shatter while prone.

The ACC are chosen based on contribution and general understanding of Achaean mechanics and scenarios. Each member offers scenarios. Most are butchered by their faults, then the finished product is tested on the test server by famously abusive players before Tecton and he delivers final word.

Iocun

Garao said:

The last time I checked @Iocun you are not in fact @Mizik and therefore you are not qualified to answer the questions I directed at @Mizik because you are not a genie thank you have a good day.

You're not the only one who has alts, you know.

Synbios

Might as well ask, @Mizik - what would you recommend as an opener for BM combat, striking-wise - mana drain via focus affs like temple or general hindering like strike hands?

Sohl

Mizik loops hamstring/knees like he's a midget and it's all he can reach.

Mizik

I usually Hand strike their weapon hand. Sometimes against Monks, Serps, Knights I'll stack up Lightning with Temple to interrupt combo or envenom, but really, Hands always feels superior. I don't usually bother getting cute. Only thing that matters is hinder and staying alive.

I always hamstring every 4th slash.

Knees pointless.

Chryenth

IDK about that. I've always been told I have pointy knees.

Eld

Synbios said:

Might as well ask, @Mizik - what would you recommend as an opener for BM combat, striking-wise - mana drain via focus affs like temple or general hindering like strike hands?

If you do want to try for mana drain, chin is usually better than temple, since the mana cost on insomnia is higher than on focus, and most people will use that instead of cohosh. Mana drain prior to impaleslash+bladetwist really doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference to brokenstar setups, though.

Edit: Yeah, don't know what I was thinking with that comment, obviously focus mana cost is higher. I still remember testing with @Dorn and deciding that chin was more effective for some reason, but maybe it was just that paired with lightning infuse people would focus the epilepsy and use insomnia, whereas they'd just focus and eat goldenseal for epilepsy+stupidity.

Garao

Mana drain insomnia = 100

mana drain focus = 250

Vaehl

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