I can't speak for BM, since it's a shitty class for ret. That, in and of itself, doesn't justify nerfing ret embed at all, more that BM needs some ret-related QoL with their attacks. Let's take serpent, for example: on ret embed they can delph/delph so the magi starts prone. Snake already passively prones while they can lay on other affs. Serpent can save their snap for ret, etc. Monks? Forget about it.. just telepathy spam. Alchies have passive disrupt homonc. Bard has lunge/DFA/prone songbird/hallelujah (which currently fires in ret for cures)/etc. DW can just spam degen/reap and laugh at ret while attune fires. Everyone has web. I could go on.
That some classes like BM have a disadvantage isn't necessarily a terrible thing, but I can agree that they do need to be more ret-friendly. There is no excuse, though, for bad plays like Adrik is doing, especially for bard.
DFA requires me to leap high. Which can be stopped from being indoors or frozen ground. Prone songbird.. I have no idea what that means. Do you mean singing while prone? Because guess what. That does nothing If the target is deaf.
Lunge "works" but again. The magi can ref to block it.. The prone is useless since the magi can panpiped prone. Amnesia still fucking sucks to fight against, and monkshood would mean that i prone and give that.. And look at that. He's still fucking using panpipes from prone.
If i know they're only going to fight in ret, i can do decently well. The issue comes from the fact that's ALL he does, and no amount of work on my part stops panpipes from working while prone. Stop it from working prone and I'll be fine. I know Bard fucks in Ret. It's just the fact that ret +prone sleep +amnesia pets makes it fucking obnoxious to deal with in any meaningful fashion.
I think my two cents is, I shouldn't have be able to be insta-truescrewed for burst/truedeath because I didn't react within the 4 seconds in the specific way I need to. I feel like if anything, Magi needs to be changed within ret. Perhaps not nerfed, changed- just so we can have a dynamic fight, because sometimes it feels like I'm just eternally tumbling while the magi figures their shit out and spams lullaby/paralysis/prone.
The Divine voice of Twilight echoes in your head, "See that it is. I espy a tithe of potential in your mortal soul, Astarod Blackstone. Let us hope that it flourishes and does not falter as so many do."
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
Fought Mizik for what seemed like 5 minutes, finally just barely managed to damage him out after a well fought back and forth battle. Good fight my man.
I'll toss some more firelord logs out there, defending myself from a bounty. It's not in that bad of a place right now, bit slow for a momentum class but it has good defensive tools once you can get to maximum spark to help make up for that. It still gets dumpstered by heavily artefacts classes with good resistances to fire.
The Magi fight was interesting, make sure if you're ignoring ablaze for the Firelord regen that you have a toggle to start curing it again before a Magi just eats you up, or just let their own inferno shred them with 20-30% passive self damage ticks in a crucible.
Dear people that are good at combat: Please do not look, for thine eyes will be displeased. In my defense, I'm working through some system bs atm. Also I don't know what stick monk does.
Comments
Lunge "works" but again. The magi can ref to block it.. The prone is useless since the magi can panpiped prone. Amnesia still fucking sucks to fight against, and monkshood would mean that i prone and give that.. And look at that. He's still fucking using panpipes from prone.
If i know they're only going to fight in ret, i can do decently well. The issue comes from the fact that's ALL he does, and no amount of work on my part stops panpipes from working while prone. Stop it from working prone and I'll be fine. I know Bard fucks in Ret. It's just the fact that ret +prone sleep +amnesia pets makes it fucking obnoxious to deal with in any meaningful fashion.
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/9G6H5o3h
Welcome to Mhaldor, Slave
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/KDDMkajD (First 5-6 balances cut off unfortunately)
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
https://ada-young.com/pastebin/CXJ9D6Xm
https://ada-young.com/pastebin/FI1dOug0
I will start posting more!
https://ada-young.com/pastebin/3S39sEFD (Firelord vs Airlord)
I'll toss some more firelord logs out there, defending myself from a bounty. It's not in that bad of a place right now, bit slow for a momentum class but it has good defensive tools once you can get to maximum spark to help make up for that. It still gets dumpstered by heavily artefacts classes with good resistances to fire.
https://ada-young.com/pastebin/EvCNdbAp (Firelord vs Magi)
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
https://ada-young.com/pastebin/epTr6-u-
https://ada-young.com/pastebin/ZzWigTyX
https://ada-young.com/pastebin/A_9Z2nNi
Dear people that are good at combat: Please do not look, for thine eyes will be displeased. In my defense, I'm working through some system bs atm. Also I don't know what stick monk does.
...not a good fight. If someone doesn't parry head just overhand until they die tbh.