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It can be pretty useful if you time it, and the Apostate or Shaman doesn't have the time to react and breach so they waste an entire balance of afflictions.. Can also be useful during some setups like Salvelocks and so on where buying a tiny bit of time can make the difference
Any advice here? Curing priorities? Or how to survive the destroy? Can't really tank the damage, so I can't prio ablaze over everything else or he'd just throw axe/golem scorch
Aside from the fact I was striking knees on a mounted foe the whole fight....... Ignore that...
Last time I fought a magi they weren't able to outpace salve curing so easily, and stack all four broken limbs on me...
He started using efreeti though.
@Taryius You sat there trying to attack and discerning with arms broken a couple times. Once both arms are broken and you can't attack, you might as well leave and cure up. Don't just stand there and let him hammer you.
In terms of actually surviving once he resto breaks, that's a lot tougher. Maybe Mir stance would help with the damage. Health trans? Alleviate helps with the burn pressure but you need one(?) free arm first. Burn prio helps avoid the destroy if you can survive the damage. Touching worry stones helps too if you have a free arm.
I guess you could've stayed away until dehydrate faded to avoid predehydrate. I'm not sure how long it takes to fade.
@Farrah I still don't really rate efreeti, I use it because I was always going to add every weapon, but I killed @Atalkez recently without it just to prove its still possible. The significant shift is that I moved to a double prep where I generally get the second limb before the first restoration completes which doubled the salve pressure if you expect to stand up, and the time I have available to complete the destroy if you prio burning.
I've also started using vibes, things like tremors will get free prone into the broken legs, which is significant to keep momentum down during prep, that can be resolved programmatically but I'll let ya'll work out the specifics yourself.
You kinda do have to prio burning over the restorations if your going to avoid the destroy, dehydrated will time out after 45 seconds and force a slight loss in momentum having to re apply (although it seems once you have burning stacked it will continue to stack despite dehydrate fading unless you cure down to regular burning, need to test that more).
Agree that attempting to outpace the salve pressure in room is a bad idea, we can break 2 limbs every 2 seconds and its taking you 3 seconds of salve balance to cure 2 limbs, so eventually you're going to lose that race. If your not prone, you can prio mending arms and remain more offensive (most classes have some attack they can do with double broken legs so long as they have arms), but if your going to prio mending legs then you really have to run on double arm breaks or your not utilising your priority for any advantage because you just stand there being ineffective.
Tumbling on resto breaks also helps because it forces us to move our inferno to continue stacking (unless we firestorm which is particularly slow). Momentum classes can kill magi, provided you can get your kill in before we start taking limbs. In one of our fights you did have me almost prepped and I had to catch a few parries, I haven't done the numbers but the double prep time looked comparable so its more about winning the race to prep by fighting smart in your case.
And @Aegoth I can almost track burning properly now, he did get 1 level of burning before I entered the room from an inferno tick, so I would have been behind by at least 1 as a result of that, I may also have assumed a burning cure while out of room based on the tumble (another reason tumbling is good) depending on the timing. I suspect I would have destroyed on next balance in this case, but I also usually play safe because of my horrid ping to try and avoid failed destroys so I assume I need 1 extra burning stack in order to destroy based on health level.
@Taryius also keep in mind you were fighting one of the most artied people in game, your typical magi isn't doing anywhere near that much damage along the way (even dumb things like a magi having level 3 strength artie to bolster axe throw damage, it adds up). It's awesome to see people looking for fights and prepared to take the hits to learn, you'll be a force soon enough if you keep that attitude and keep looking over fights and fine tuning.
@Armali you go to hell and you die, dirty axe thief!
But in all honesty stealing axes isn't a bad strategy.. I do keep 100 now as a result of running out vs Armali once, and I will use staffstrike along the way to prep now if I see you picking up axes (which brings rebounding into play as well)..
This doesn't really change the prep time all that much, because axe and staffstrike are comparable at average health (axes faster at particularly low health, staffstrike faster at particularly high health), but it does take a little control away from us in that we cant chose epseth/epteth anymore, staffstrike earth will smart afflict but it will not identify to me whether it took an arm or a leg.
Unlikely to change the outcome much, and it will frustrate some people (like me) in your average duel simply because forging is a horribly slow tedious bitch of a thing to have to do. But don't let that stop ya, nothing wrong with making people earn it.
@Aegoth - I know..
If you look back from the end though, I destroyed at what I thought was level 4 burn and 26% health (because I'm not deducting conflag damage from his last read health and because I think his burn level is 1 lower because of previously mentioned inferno tick while I was not in room)..
If you go back to the previous attack before destroy, I scorched there because my last health check had him at 38% health, with level 3 burning, which is destroyable, but all it takes is a salve apply or a health sip to make that destroy fail.. when someone is curing properly they would have dodged that destroy, I shoot for safe kills rather than wasted balance, I'd rather stack 1 more level of burn and increase damage before I take that kill when the target is prone and not moving. The main reason for that strategy is that I fight on a permanent 0.35 second ping (being Aussie.. curse you speed of light and the unfairly imposed gaming limitations!), I don't get the privilege of being able to modify my attack in real time like many of the US folks do without the potential penalty it brings.
I get that you can see the targets exact burning level, but to say I finished that wrong because of it would be kinda ignorant (and maybe why people never complained about fighting you as a Magi?)
I'm just teasing. And no one ever said it wasn't possible. Just that there's no point in not using it.
You take a drink from a mahogany vial.
The elixir heals and soothes you.
5498h 4861m 100%e 23%w [20.1%] [Dochitha] (+1279h, 18.0%) [shiv rl2 ll1 frozen h2 PR] 23:15:17.
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[AFF] Damagedrightleg
[AFF] Brokenrightleg
Your right leg feels stronger and healthier.
You may apply another salve to yourself.
5498h 4861m 100%e 23%w [20.1%] [Dochitha] [shiv rl1 ll1 frozen h2 PR] 23:15:17.133
[AFF] Brokenleftleg
[Curing]: APPLY MENDING TO LEGS
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The bones in your left leg mend.
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5853h 4945m 100%e 23%w [20.1%] [Dochitha] [shiv rl1 frozen h2 PR] 23:15:18.346 (outr 2 plumbum)
[DEF] Speed
[DEF] Mindseye
[DEF] Scholasticism
[DEF] Insomnia
[DEF] Nightsight
[DEF] Blur
[DEF] Electricresist
[DEF] Skywatch
[DEF] Coldresist
[DEF] Levitating
[DEF] Fireresist
[DEF] Kola
[DEF] Disperse
[DEF] Magicresist
[DEF] Alertness
[DEF] Lifevision
[DEF] Curseward
[DEF] Fangbarrier
standing above you before everything goes black.
[DEF] Shadowveil
[DEF] Hiding
[DEF] Deathsight
[DEF] Blindness
[DEF] Deafness
[AFF] Prone
[AFF] Brokenrightleg
[AFF] Shivering
[AFF] Frozen
[AFF] Mangledhead
[AFF] Damagedhead
[DEF] Starburst
You have been slain by Dochitha.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
From my view: https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/BuEZY_W8
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
Also noticed from your log that my distort had faded
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/kS48TIiz
xD
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Long log, but 14s from lock seal to him dying. Kinda hilarious
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Edit : Highly likely it's wrong but wondering if anything's changed, dat stack speed
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