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  • JovoloJovolo
    no lol
  • KuyKuy
    Kadin said:
    True wrack is too slow to build and maintain humours. Yes. 
    Sometimes, when you're trying to learn how to be a better combatant, you have to learn to stop assuming you understand everything in and out.

    Often, you really have no fucking clue how stuff actually works.  Trust me on this one.
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • CooperCooper
    Kuy said:
    Kadin said:
    True wrack is too slow to build and maintain humours. Yes. 
    Sometimes, when you're trying to learn how to be a better combatant, you have to learn to stop assuming you understand everything in and out.

    Often, you really have no fucking clue how stuff actually works.  Trust me on this one.
    Very true.

    But Jovolo's long history of going 'lol no you're wrong' without explaining things is annoying. Almost as much as my history of the same thing.

  • VaehlVaehl
    Alchemist lock is fucking amazing.
  • KuyKuy
    Kadin said:
    Okay so lets clear things up here. If its that "fucking op" you would be an  alchemist. I would be happy to take you up on a duel if you are an alchie so you could show me. Also Kuy. Please remind me who you are again. Duel invitation sent to you also. Sometimes Kuy... when you're posting on the combat logs thread. You have to remember you're not a combatant. And lastly.... Cooper... <3. Kuy I should not trust you. Because I have never seen a deathsight with you on the winning end. 
    You're being defensive about something you don't need to be defensive about.

    It wasn't an insult, it was a piece of advice.
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • KadinKadin
    Kuy said:
    Kadin said:
    Okay so lets clear things up here. If its that "fucking op" you would be an  alchemist. I would be happy to take you up on a duel if you are an alchie so you could show me. Also Kuy. Please remind me who you are again. Duel invitation sent to you also. Sometimes Kuy... when you're posting on the combat logs thread. You have to remember you're not a combatant. And lastly.... Cooper... <3. Kuy I should not trust you. Because I have never seen a deathsight with you on the winning end. 
    You're being defensive about something you don't need to be defensive about.

    It wasn't an insult, it was a piece of advice.
    And you're being defensive about accepting my duel request. Just a friendly duel is all. Since you know enough to give me advice. Maybe you can teach me something in said duel.
  • JovoloJovolo
    Hahahaha
  • KuyKuy
    Ooookaaaayyy...
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • KadinKadin
    @Jovolo I usually trust your advice, but please play new alchemist. Truewrack does beat focus balance, but its not faster to stack afflictions as opposed to inundate. Granted the best case scenario is (unlucky tree touches/focuses), but inundating is faster against the average opponent. Also much more unavoidable. As -all- afflictions come in 2 balances.
  • GrotonGroton
    Kadin said:
    Come at me bro.

  • SaevaSaeva
    I've seen Kuy win in combat situations over and over. He understand mechanics fairly thoroughly, and when he doesn't, he finds out the answer. His advice seemed plenty sound.


  • VaehlVaehl
    Don't see how Jovolo doesn't explain strategies. He has lots of in-depth posts about how a particularly strategy does, or doesn't work.

    You're not always entitled to an answer, either. Finding things out for yourself can put you in a frame of mind that being taught does not put you. What's the point in spoonfeeding people combat strategies? Did you know that people at the higher tiers actually theorize, test, and innovate new strategies instead of asking others what to do? You're being a dick for no reason, dude.
  • TerraTerra
    edited November 2014
    Kadin said:
    Terra said:

    Can lock in about four truewracks as alchemist. It does depend on how your opponent uses fitness and tree though, and how lucky they are with the tree. If they use those well (read: not the way most people use them), then locking with inundate might be the fastest way to lock.

    Since Proficy can't fitness, though, you could have definitely locked him faster.

    Your homunculus can also extend herb balance!

    My homunculus was mercury so every attack extends next herb balance. I could of locked him at 8. Yes. And even with serverside default prios you will not be locking with 4 truewracks. They have to honestly set up their prios to be pro alchemist. I don't believe you all realize how slow truewrack is.

    Austere said:
    @Kadin you should add antimony cures to tracker.  Every time he eats one it is jacking up herb timer. Not that you appear to be using it beside it catching third person stuff. Still,  that would drive me nutty.
    I had planned on it but never got around to it. I don't use it as much as I used to since I do more wracks than truewracks now. I will get around eventually to making it alchemist friendly. Once I'm done Ill hook you up with trigger lines for it all so you can add some things in.


    Given that I've played Alchemist on Anarchaea, on ACC test server, AND on my alt... I know truewrack speed.

    You're just making yourself look silly now. Truewrack is not better than wrack in every situation, no. Truewrack lock is also not necessarily better than using inundate in every situation. However, a four truewrack lock is very much possible, given that I've done it before on multiple opponents, as has Jovolo. We've both played alchemist. We know what we're talking about.

    Edit: And the notion that everyone would be playing alchemist if alchemist has an OP tactic is also just wrong. If that were true, we'd have had lots more bards when Minuet was balanceless and would have lots more jesters now, etc. People don't pick classes based solely on one OP means of locking. There are a lot more factors, such as group combat, 1v1 defense, nonlocking strategies (for people who don't like afflictions), less linear fighting/more variety of tactics, etc.

  • AntidasAntidas
    @Kadin you really need to calm down and, rather than get annoyed at the people who are trying to give you advice and help you, listen to what they have to say. Everyone who has spoken here in response to you is someone who has a pretty damn good understanding of the combat mechanics, and none of them have been a dick to you about it.

    A great way to get better at your class is to tell the people who are politely trying to give you pointers to fuck off. Perhaps instead of getting mad, you should instead try talking to them in a better forum such as in-game messages, and figuring out exactly what it is they are suggesting you try.

  • KadinKadin
    edited November 2014
    So the general consensus is... so and so is not an alchemist but listen to him. I said I respect and read Jovolo's advice often. Although he hasn't offered me -specific- advice I also didn't ask for any. If I asked nicely I'm sure he would oblige. He's a good guy with good advice. All I'm sayingd is that more often than not... wrack/inundate is  more successful(guaranteed). Maybe I'm doing truewrack wrong. Towards the end of my posts I was leading into saying I may be wrong but from my research on current alchemist combat I'm right. I didn't say truewrack was a bad thing. I said its slow. I also stated I didn't mean it was slow in terms of affliction speed, but in terms of total time it takes to lock vs inundate. Granted the best case scenario is faster, but rare. I do believe inundate is more reliable. I do not understand why I am getting so much heat over an overall solid duel on both ends. I disagree with truewrack and 4 non-alchemists (no doubt some/all of you may know what you're talking about) disagree with me. This is my last attempt to agree to disagree. I'd rather take a slow prep/guaranteed method over a chance that an unlucky tree undoes most of my work 3 times. If I seemed rude I do apologize. I offered duels because I am not looking for free information, but instead I'm looking for someone to prove me wrong in an environment where I can learn firsthand. And Tesha, I do understand that we all pick classes for our own reason, but I was more or less asking if it was that easy then why isn't he doing it currently. Vaehl, I've done a fair amount of testing to come up with a few alternative locks. Granted I've been guided a bit but some testing has been done. I will look into testing with truewrack and will post results here when the time comes. Maybe then you all can critique my truewracks. Cyl I was not attempting to sound overly douchey. I was paraphrasing what I was told and wonder why if it was that easy then why nobody else does it. That is all.

    -Antidas I believe you posted as I was typing so I just read your post. Editing to respond. I do not believe I need to calm down as I was never upset. Just believe I came across the wrong way. I just find it frustrating that if I find that I'm right through my personal testing then I get LOL/disliked. Please remember whats right for me may not be right for you. Wrack works better for me. At least for now. I will however give truewracking -another- solid shot after I catch some Z's. Night all.
  • StunereeStuneree
    edited November 2014
    Jovolo and Vaehl not playing alchemist doesn't mean they don't have an extremely in-depth knowledge about the class.

    Also it being OP doesn't mean anyone should play it, otherwise there'd be 90 priests online at all times. 


  • ErnamErnam
    Lil more "priest is OP" comments.  Can't get enough.

    still haven't heard an explanation for this, but would be happy to discuss it some time in game, or in a thread.
  • CynlaelCynlael
    edited November 2014
    Apostate? gravehands, deadyes, Vaehl, vengeance, soulcage, lol op pls fix

  • ErnamErnam
    edited November 2014

    I mean, the damage mitigation is legitimately OP.  Never really found a way around it other than forced gem of negation and changing class.

    Log of @Xer tanking penta-break, pre-damage, enfeeble, 2 level 2 torso breaks, with 22str and every level 3 artie monk can have, without going below 3,000hp: https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/d1e10c35

  • SantarSantar
    All he actually did there was tank 2 bbts while being numbed tbh.

    image

  • VaehlVaehl
    Might have wanted to save that enfeeble for after the bbts too.
  • ErnamErnam
    edited November 2014

    I had (and don't have the link to) the log from his end.  Trust me, it wouldn't make a difference in the world.  He almost gained health over the period of time I was BBTing.

    Also, @Santar, not sure what the suggestion is there.  Feel free to name something available to monks that prevents numb (sarcasm, because nothing stops it), or suggest a way that monks can do more damage than the combo I just showcased (also sarcasm, because it doesn't exist).

    Not bitching, the correct answer to the question was and is: change class.  Monk simply can't kill Necro users who know what they're doing.  On the bright side, necro users can't kill monks who know what they're doing, either.  Nerfing enfeeble (and everything else) helped a lot though.

  • SantarSantar
    You complained about something without noting the actual issue.

    The only factor there was numb.

    image

  • ErnamErnam

    I was mentioning (not complaining about) apostate damage mitigation, and posted that log as evidence.  Are you trying to suggest that Numb is not a form of damage mitigation?


  • MishgulMishgul Trondheim, Norway
    Without timestamps, hard to give advice on how you can improve. Especially since I know Xer is one of those people that will play mind games with you, and it looks like he might have won.

    -

    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
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