[...] The point of the log was the ridiculous delay from server-side curing (250ms * 3). It completely breaks combat in many similar situations.
You do realise a 250ms ping time is standard for me in the UK? anything under 250ms and I'm dancing in the street.
The issue I'm trying to describe is that it's delaying for each individual cure. A client-side system would not do this off a delph/delph leg break DSL.
Wake (lag) Sip health (lag) Eat moss (lag) Insomnia (lag) apply restoration to legs (lag) clot
The total delay until restoration was applied was 785ms. If I would have been on balance and paralyzed, for example, it would be over a full second of "simulated lag" due to standing and eating curare. Add another two delays if you don't have bloodroot and moss pre-cached.
This isn't just against infernal, it's in all forms of combat, and it's silly. Even a basic system would send all of those commands at once, not issue one command at a time and wait for confirmation of each one before issuing the next totally unrelated, unrestricted cures or commands.
In all reality, I'd much rather just be able to queue cures and manage it client-side than wait 250ms between every single command/cure.
Nothing would have helped me there, as we all know quite well, it's uncounterable. I was just hoping you'd die before you got to it. (You survived Enfeeble + double torso broken BBT, twice...)
The point of the log was the ridiculous delay from server-side curing (250ms * 3). It completely breaks combat in many similar situations.
You do realise a 250ms ping time is standard for me in the UK? anything under 250ms and I'm dancing in the street.
Isn't this more to due with your personal Internet rather than your geographical location? I can ping central UK at 80 ms, and the Achaea server at 30 ms.
I've never had a problem playing on UK server games from east coast, and most people I know from europe don't mind playing on east coast from over there.
Below is an example of how broken the curing system is latency wise. The main thing to note here is that in the entire log below, every affliction I have that is cured in this log, could be cured instantly. Everything in this log uses separate balances. Instead it takes 1.3 seconds to cure what could be done by a good client side curing system easily in under 100 milliseconds. It'd have been even longer if I took the time to configure it use potash in the log. The fact that doing things like sipping health/moss/other random stuff slows down other facets of the curing is extremely broken.
Not to reopen old wounds for @Mizik, but I had something v similar happen yesterday during a raid. Got beckoned off my pegasus and then it happened to reset, leading to some panic as I tried to find it.
Seems like the odds are against this happening often but in any case, I IDEAed either a message or an auto-drop if you whistle mounts that are in your hands. Paying a few hundred credits for a collared mount shouldn't lead to more confusion (..or deaths to Ernam..) than if you hadn't made that investment.
Yeah I can't tell if the bat reset from kai banish or returned from banish and immediately reset. I'm 90% sure that it came back from banish based on the timing of it all, but it was a while ago, I could be wrong.
I am a little weirded out by mounts resetting from kai banish, however (if indeed that's what happened there). That sounds like a bug to me, if so.
Mithridates, I've told you many times that your "zomg look how close this was" logs where you fail to provide time stamps are inadmissible. You have had many warnings. This is your final warning. Do not let this happen again.
You only provided one timestamp followed by 0.300 seconds. There has to be at least two timestamps for us to do stuff called math to find out the relative time between two discrete events.
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.195 A diminutive homunculus resembling Nimala comes falling down from above to land with a 'THUMP.' 2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.201 A glowing spear comes flying in towards Mithridates. It buries itself in his gut, impaling him. 2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.209bbt Mithridates 2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.472bbt Mithridates You have recovered equilibrium. (2.922s) 2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, ex, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.476(transmute 316)bbt Mithridates You move in towards Mithridates for the backbreaker. You lift Mithridates triumphantly into the air, then yank him down into your raised knee with back breaking force. With a sickening crunch and cry of pure agony, Mithridates's head lolls aimlessly far too far to one side. Mithridates collapses into such an undignified sprawl that you realise that the throw did indeed snap the spine like a dry twig. You have slain Mithridates. A group of 6 antimony flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 6 argentum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 4 argentum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 3 arsenic pellets falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 5 arsenic pellets falls from Mithridates's corpse. An arsenic pellet falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 cuprum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 calcite motes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 2 pinches of ground realgar falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 potash crystals falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 bisemutum chips falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 azurite motes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 pinches of ground malachite falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 4 pinches of ground realgar falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 stannum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 5 pinches of ground realgar falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 6 magnesium chips falls from Mithridates's corpse. A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse. An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 8 calamine crystals falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 gypsum crystals falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 quicksilver droplets falls from Mithridates's corpse. An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. A gypsum crystal falls from Mithridates's corpse. An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 6 aurum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 quartz grains falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 10 ferrum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 6 pinches of ground cinnabar falls from Mithridates's corpse. A pinch of ground cinnabar falls from Mithridates's corpse. A ball of myrrh gum falls from Mithridates's corpse. A group of 3 pinches of ground cinnabar falls from Mithridates's corpse. An arsenic pellet falls from Mithridates's corpse. A calamine crystal falls from Mithridates's corpse. A calamine crystal falls from Mithridates's corpse. An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse. A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse. A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse. An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse. 2448h, 2193m|40%m, 99%e, 98%w, kai, ex, 76.3%, dbk- 21:58:52.812 2448h, 2193m|40%m, 99%e, 98%w, kai, e, 76.3%, dbk- 21:58:52.815
^____^
Dat button smash.
"Mummy, I'm hungry, but there's no one to eat! :C"
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Sobriquet said:
The issue I'm trying to describe is that it's delaying for each individual cure. A client-side system would not do this off a delph/delph leg break DSL.
Wake
(lag)
Sip health
(lag)
Eat moss
(lag)
Insomnia
(lag)
apply restoration to legs
(lag)
clot
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/65b64ed9
The total delay until restoration was applied was 785ms. If I would have been on balance and paralyzed, for example, it would be over a full second of "simulated lag" due to standing and eating curare. Add another two delays if you don't have bloodroot and moss pre-cached.
This isn't just against infernal, it's in all forms of combat, and it's silly. Even a basic system would send all of those commands at once, not issue one command at a time and wait for confirmation of each one before issuing the next totally unrelated, unrestricted cures or commands.
In all reality, I'd much rather just be able to queue cures and manage it client-side than wait 250ms between every single command/cure.
So many bad choices
You say, "Now if only I had wings."
Soldier Qara Del-Amroth Rian says to you, "Tell me about it."
Morthif gives a pair of eagle's wings to you.
You bow respectfully to Morthif.
(Party): Micaelis says, "Mind sense: (Celaabi's bedroom) Carmain (1)."
You are now wearing a pair of eagle's wings.
You say, "Duanathar."
You quickly utter "Duanathar" and your wings flare with power before swiftly carrying you up to on
the clouds.
On the clouds (indoors).
Everything about you is obscured by a heavy fog. A ladder of long, soft leaves comprises a wispy
Weaver's Fern along the ground.
Carmain, Falthus, and Oren arrives, following Milenka from the ether.
4260h 3216m 100%e 100%w XX|EE C K
d
Treacherous mountain path (road).
A noxious, red-hued fog overwhelms the area with a thick, palpable vapour. Resting on the ground is
a cube-shaped silver sigil. A dark crystal spiral is here. A lithe black panther prowls here
restlessly, wings carefully folded. The tormented form of a hideous abomination writhes here.
You see exits leading up and down.
(Party): Micaelis says, "Mind sense: (On the clouds) Carmain (1).
d
Treacherous mountain path (road).
A noxious, red-hued fog overwhelms the area with a thick, palpable vapour.
You see exits leading up and down.
d
Before two towering mountains (road).
A noxious, red-hued fog overwhelms the area with a thick, palpable vapour. An occupied iron gibbet,
suspended from a wooden gallows, creaks ominously in the breeze. A decaying corpse has been impaled
here upon a fifteen foot stake. A runic totem is planted solidly in the ground.
You see exits leading north, southwest, and up.
Your blindness is cured by a wunjo rune on a totem.
curing defences on
Oren arrives from the up.
sw
You must be standing first.
[CURED] TRANSFIXED | You have writhed free of your state of transfixation.
4260h 3216m 100%e 100%w XX|EE B C K[PR]
Oren's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Oren lets fly at you with a snap kick.
She connects to the left leg!
Oren balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
She connects to the left leg!
Oren balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
She connects to the left leg!
3028h 3216m 100%e 100%w XX| B (-1232h, 31.8%)
Isn't this more to due with your personal Internet rather than your geographical location? I can ping central UK at 80 ms, and the Achaea server at 30 ms.
I've never had a problem playing on UK server games from east coast, and most people I know from europe don't mind playing on east coast from over there.
In his defence, you could have had a level 0 con mog
Below is an example of how broken the curing system is latency wise. The main thing to note here is that in the entire log below, every affliction I have that is cured in this log, could be cured instantly. Everything in this log uses separate balances. Instead it takes 1.3 seconds to cure what could be done by a good client side curing system easily in under 100 milliseconds. It'd have been even longer if I took the time to configure it use potash in the log. The fact that doing things like sipping health/moss/other random stuff slows down other facets of the curing is extremely broken.
Curing activated.
2669h, 4060m ekdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:07:189
[Curing]: WAKE
You open your eyes and yawn mightily.
2669h, 4060m ekdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:07:419
------------------------BALANCE------------------------
2669h, 4060m exkdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:07:650
[Curing]: SIP VITALITY
You take a drink from a snow blossom vial.
The tonic heals and soothes you.
3791h, 4060m exkdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:07:657(+1122)
[Curing]: OUTR AURUM
You remove 1 aurum, bringing the total in the Rift to 2485.
3791h, 4060m exkdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:07:664
[Curing]: EAT AURUM
You eat an aurum flake.
Your bronchial tubes open up and your asthma is cured.
3791h, 4060m exkdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:07:671
[Curing]: TOUCH TREE
You touch the tree of life tattoo.
The bones in your left leg mend.
3791h, 4060m exkdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:07:921
[Curing]: STAND
You stand up.
3791h, 4060m exkdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:08:167
[Curing]: APPLY RENEWAL TO ARMS
You take out some balm and quickly rub it on your arms.
The bones in your right arm mend.
3791h, 4060m exkdb-[Paused]Deffing..19:33:08:470
@Makarios
Can totally see that not getting fixed in order to not have to fix affliction classes.
New meta, instead of herb stacking, just stack different cure balances.
Seems like the odds are against this happening often but in any case, I IDEAed either a message or an auto-drop if you whistle mounts that are in your hands. Paying a few hundred credits for a collared mount shouldn't lead to more confusion (..or deaths to Ernam..) than if you hadn't made that investment.
I am a little weirded out by mounts resetting from kai banish, however (if indeed that's what happened there). That sounds like a bug to me, if so.
I just wish mounts didn't reset to inventory while in realms.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/16ff2750
dat trigger
missing the important timetamp
oh shit i thought the one on top was the BBT line but it wasn't. Here's when I died.
(p) 96.2 263 0h 5043m 21685e 27957w ex Ruth 2/0|0/0|0/0|4 d|u 09:58:05.509
.300 seconds
It's not like you're going to live anyways.
Just trigger starburst to earring, and hope it beats the triggered soulspear. Ping fight.
Only way to tank is to starburst. Oh and numb.
I always get cath'd off numb. =(
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.195
A diminutive homunculus resembling Nimala comes falling down from above to land with a 'THUMP.'
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.201
A glowing spear comes flying in towards Mithridates. It buries itself in his gut, impaling him.
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.209bbt Mithridates
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, x, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.472bbt Mithridates
You have recovered equilibrium. (2.922s)
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 100%e, 98%w, kai, ex, 75.8%, dbk- 21:58:52.476(transmute 316)bbt Mithridates
You move in towards Mithridates for the backbreaker.
You lift Mithridates triumphantly into the air, then yank him down into your raised knee with back
breaking force.
With a sickening crunch and cry of pure agony, Mithridates's head lolls aimlessly far too far to one
side. Mithridates collapses into such an undignified sprawl that you realise that the throw did
indeed snap the spine like a dry twig.
You have slain Mithridates.
A group of 6 antimony flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 6 argentum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 4 argentum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 3 arsenic pellets falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 5 arsenic pellets falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An arsenic pellet falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 cuprum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 calcite motes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 2 pinches of ground realgar falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 potash crystals falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 bisemutum chips falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 azurite motes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 pinches of ground malachite falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 4 pinches of ground realgar falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 stannum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 5 pinches of ground realgar falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 6 magnesium chips falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 8 calamine crystals falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 gypsum crystals falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 quicksilver droplets falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A gypsum crystal falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 6 aurum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 quartz grains falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 10 ferrum flakes falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 6 pinches of ground cinnabar falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A pinch of ground cinnabar falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A ball of myrrh gum falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A group of 3 pinches of ground cinnabar falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An arsenic pellet falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A calamine crystal falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A calamine crystal falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An aurum flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse.
A magnesium chip falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
An antimony flake falls from Mithridates's corpse.
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 99%e, 98%w, kai, ex, 76.3%, dbk- 21:58:52.812
2448h, 2193m|40%m, 99%e, 98%w, kai, e, 76.3%, dbk- 21:58:52.815
^____^
Dat button smash.
I've really enjoyed macros in my later years of Achaea. Smashing buttons is satisfying when it's a finisher like BBT/bite/snipe(lololol)
INR ALL MINERAL
You're welcome.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
http://www.logsty.net/logs/zry2q
http://www.logsty.net/logs/dQwLc
Now that I'm not working 40 hours a week, I actually have time to fight.
I'm getting better.
Slowly.
Nice fights
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/60c07c99
@Aegoth @Rangor @Ernam
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Atalkez dies, features contorted from the poison delivered by Vicar Aegoth I'llur, Phantom Hand.
;D