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  • DaslinDaslin The place with the oxygen
    edited June 2013
    @Jhui stahp! Don't teach the children that!

    I thought we were gonna raise the kids and let THEM decide on that?




    hmph. @Kyrra some men you got! :P
  • RomRom
    http://pastehtml.com/view/d5zod8fwa.html

    My perspective because pastehtml is cool.

    Roundhouse kick is amazing - especially since they just bumped up it's accuracy. I've been amazed at how fast I can prep someone, even if they're mounted. What's worse is that a lot of things could have been done better by me - didn't see there was a non-icewalled exit for me to break with jumpkick so I risked missing sweepkick but the extra axekick damage from dragon is nice anyway, I diagnosed before my axekick, like Tesha said enfeeble/axekick is awesome but I forgot to boost kai and I'm not sure I would have gotten enough kai to enfeeble in that fight even if I boosted.

    @Tesha Lotus have +1 strength icon thank you very much!
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  • MolokiniMolokini
    edited June 2013
    Daeir said:
    You're a Sylvan, right? Sick bees on him and barrier inbetween every combo he tries to make. Prep your limbs slowly for the eclipse->heartseed combo, as barrier will force him to use telepathy to shunt you out of it, which will give you precious seconds of time to do your thing. Thornrend him with epteth to slow down his attempts to combo and basically just shield/barrier whore it out, because Monks have no way to remove shield at all w/o a barrier tattoo and a Tekura monk's attempts at telepathy are absolutely laughable for anything beyond minor hindering.

    I've never even fought a Sylvan before, but having played one myself in the past, there's a lot you could have done other than just let him prep you. Sylvans are tanky powerhouses and thornrend prep is extremely fast for the most part.
    So the thing about this barrier/shield spam is that it wouldn't actually help me at all.  It delays both of us by almost the same amount.  The fight would last longer, but it wouldn't be any more advantageous for me.  Furthermore epteth thornrends have a very small chance of being useful as they either have to arrive almost at the same time that he combos, or must stack with a bees hit that lands on arms (which best case is one second in which he misses one punch).  The chance of either of these happening with regularity is very small, so I'd rather just use SAP to force the occasional diagnose (unless I'm trying to slip in torso, clearly).  

    What're the ways that a mount will help?  Blocking,dodging(tiny because no avoidance & 9 dex), mountjump, and blocking sweepkick, I think.  Am I missing any?

    Also, I was tumbling through an icewall.  He killed me before I made it through, even after wasting time on a diagnose.   @Tesha
  • SidoniaSidonia
    Reflect is good, especially against people with multiple attacks on the same prompt/balance. Depending on who you're fighting, reflect/illusions can mess up their counting and make double breaks difficult. If you're dying against 15 strength on a single break, you need more health. I feel like a defensive sylvan has an easier time than almost any other class in the game and should basically never die.
  • TeshaTesha
    @Molokini Tumbles have to be really really quick when you get double broken. There were 8 seconds between break and death, I think that is enough time to tumble. 

    @Rom Lotus is wrong, then.

     i'm a rebel

  • MolokiniMolokini
    @Tesha Not if they break you off balance.  Tumble is 6 seconds with two broken limbs, thornrend is 2.7 seconds with quick-witted.  Plus as he mentioned he diagnosed in between the BBT and the AXK
  • RomRom
    Tesha said:
    @Molokini Tumbles have to be really really quick when you get double broken. There were 8 seconds between break and death, I think that is enough time to tumble. 

    @Rom Lotus is wrong, then.
    Don't I know it.
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  • TeshaTesha
    Oh ew, yeah. I did not realize your balance was so long! This is reminiscent of trying to deal with guarding when I was prepping for damnation. What I ended up doing was just never hitting when the monk was on balance, because they could break super easily. Same concept applies if your balance is that long. It sucks, but nothing else I can tell you. Monks are really powerful.

     i'm a rebel

  • XerXer Langley
    Tumble is 5 seconds on two limb breaks to be precise. 4 seconds initially, 0.5 seconds added per broken/mangled leg from when I last tested it a few months back.
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    e^(iπ) + 1 = 0
  • MishgulMishgul Trondheim, Norway
    I just cheat and win before the monk can. It's the only way.

    -

    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • DaslinDaslin The place with the oxygen
    @Mishgul that's because you never fight anymore. If you'd fight, I'd be more amused.
  • MishgulMishgul Trondheim, Norway
    Thats because i follow the Jahan school of combat. We are going to fight yesterday and i won an infinite amount of times. Nice try.

    -

    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • SeftinSeftin
    Carmain just abuses bugs and soulcages to negate you gaining anything >:(
  • MishgulMishgul Trondheim, Norway
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    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • RangorRangor
    @carmain abuses infinite amounts of starbursts + vengeance bombs without xp cost in city defence. :( He's such a meta-gamer
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  • JovoloJovolo
    An arrow flies towards you, shot by Rangor.
    It strikes you, gouging a deep and bloody wound.
    Paralysis Gained!
    1990h, 4075m, 19020e, 15088w exkb-38.0%- 13:14:09:699
    eat magnesium
    outr magnesium
    (-1396)
    You twist and turn as you attempt to escape from your entanglement.
    1990h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w exkb-38.0%- 13:14:09:954
    You begin to tumble agilely to the north. (lag tumble)
    1990h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w ekb-38.0%- 13:14:09:957
    You eat a magnesium chip.
    Paralysis Cured!-
    1990h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w ekb-38.0%- 13:14:10:073
    You are too tangled up to do that.
    You cannot do that because both of your arms must be whole and unbound.
    1990h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w ekb-38.0%- 13:14:10:079
    You gasp and choke as your entanglement impedes your breathing.
    1730h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w ekb-38.0%- 13:14:10:405(-260)
    You have writhed free of your entanglement by ropes.
    1730h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w ekb-38.0%- 13:14:10:719
    1730h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w ekb-38.0%- 13:14:11:037
    An arrow flies towards you, shot by Rangor.
    It strikes you, gouging a deep and bloody wound.
    Paralysis Gained!
    334h, 4075m, 19020e, 15098w ekb-38.0%- 13:14:11:399

    What the eff damage. I know you're artied but damn.
  • AzuhiAzuhi
    Rom said:
    http://pastehtml.com/view/d5zod8fwa.html

    My perspective because pastehtml is cool.

    Roundhouse kick is amazing - especially since they just bumped up it's accuracy. I've been amazed at how fast I can prep someone, even if they're mounted. What's worse is that a lot of things could have been done better by me - didn't see there was a non-icewalled exit for me to break with jumpkick so I risked missing sweepkick but the extra axekick damage from dragon is nice anyway, I diagnosed before my axekick, like Tesha said enfeeble/axekick is awesome but I forgot to boost kai and I'm not sure I would have gotten enough kai to enfeeble in that fight even if I boosted.

    @Tesha Lotus have +1 strength icon thank you very much!
    That log makes me wonder what got me to change from Troll. :(  I can get in several bbts/ axekicks and people just lol it off.
  • DunnDunn
    Dat Lupine bow.


  • MishgulMishgul Trondheim, Norway
    Rangor said:

    @carmain abuses infinite amounts of starbursts + vengeance bombs without xp cost in city defence. :( He's such a meta-gamer

    You had like six ways to kill me that would prevent that!

    -

    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • DunnDunn
    My kd suffered in raids as bard, but I believe that was more of a function of the group size we were facing as well as my being used to other classes. It is a very fun class, though.


  • JovoloJovolo
    Tesha said:
    I feel really bad for the people who go bard thinking it is ridiculously easy.
    ?
  • HirstHirst
    Achilles combat summed up...

    Northern edge of the village square.
    The bright sun shines down, blanketing you with its life-giving warmth. An ogre
    huntress practices throwing her spear here. Twitching its wings, a charcoal
    black hippogriff majestically stands here.  Sir Achilles, Knight of the Aarash
    Kheyr is riding on a charcoal black hippogriff. He wields an ornate steel rapier
    in each hand.  You see a sign indicating there are WARES for sale here.
    You see exits leading north (open door), east, southeast, south, southwest, and
    west.
    A wormhole is here, leading to: Northeastern wall of the pit (#4500) in Hashan.
    5475|100%h, 7448|99%m, 99%e, 93%w ex|cdbkr 38.5% - mono
    get monolith from pack
    drop monolith
    You take a monolith sigil from a wyvernskin pack.
    5475|100%h, 7518|100%m, 99%e, 93%w ex|cdbkr 38.5% - (+70 Mana)
    You drop a monolith sigil.
    5475|100%h, 7518|100%m, 99%e, 93%w ex|cdbkr 38.5% -
    Achilles scoops up a monolith sigil.
    5475|100%h, 7518|100%m, 99%e, 93%w ex|cdbkrh 38.5% -
    Achilles puts a group of 2 monolith sigils into a bag of stasis.
    5475|100%h, 7518|100%m, 99%e, 93%w ex|cdbkrh 38.5% -
    Achilles says in a calm, steady voice, "Ride home."
    You hear the distant whinny of a wild horse, and Achilles, riding a charcoal
    black hippogriff, is gone.
  • DunnDunn
    In b4 "Hirst combat summed up" with a pit log. I'll just head that shit off right now.


  • HirstHirst
    edited June 2013
    Mono on Achilles' raido.  Combat revisited

    - 2013/06/17 18:33:31 - His deranged mind offering no resistance, Achilles falls
    to the recondite power of Eldritch Warrior Hirst da'Miras.
    - 2013/06/17 18:34:41 - His deranged mind offering no resistance, Achilles falls
    to the recondite power of Eldritch Warrior Hirst da'Miras.

    Cue whining post about how mono should not stop raido or tents stop duanathar...
  • EchaldEchald
    edited June 2013
    Duanathar, Duanatharan, Ride Home... Why can't I just say 'Kai Away' to be transported into a modified version of the old banish 'outside of time' place with a lamppost, some old guy, and a few spots of light, or perhaps 'Crap' to be whisked away to the nearest outhouse?
  • AchillesAchilles Los Angeles
    Pet amnesia killing elm smoke right now :(
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  • AchillesAchilles Los Angeles
    Hirst said:
    Mono on Achilles' raido.  Combat revisited

    - 2013/06/17 18:33:31 - His deranged mind offering no resistance, Achilles falls
    to the recondite power of Eldritch Warrior Hirst da'Miras.
    - 2013/06/17 18:34:41 - His deranged mind offering no resistance, Achilles falls
    to the recondite power of Eldritch Warrior Hirst da'Miras.

    Cue whining post about how mono should not stop raido or tents stop duanathar...
    Nice trick, astralforming into Targossas to drop a monolith on my raido, will have to pick better spots with doors in the future.

    Hey I offered to duel you right after, you turned it down.
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  • AkaliAkali
    Defiling the shrine mid-fight probably did not help.
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