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Minor Traits

JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
Do you think it would be "alright" for people to be able to buy extra minor trait slots?  If so, would it be alright to allow the purchase of one or two, but not more, or are they minor enough that it really wouldn't matter much if someone wanted to buy nearly all of them?  Would there be anything overpowered in that?  If it wasn't "a big deal" it certainly gives people extra goodies to buy - would encourage me to buy some of the "sillier" minor traits.     
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  • CahinCahin Member Posts: 1,213 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    With a lot of the min/max minor traits removed when the trait system was last overhauled, I don't think it would be a terrible thing if it could add more flavor. Maybe the RP traits could be classified and it be limited to them strictly.
    IsaiahSylvanceShunsuiAchimrst
  • IsaiahIsaiah GeorgiaMember Posts: 164 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    @Jules, I think that this post would fare better in the Golden Dias since you are preposing creating a form of artefact like permit.

    Though I full hearted agree with @Antonius that 'traits' are what define us by nature. Im not opposed to seeing some of the indifferent, non combat traits opened up to permit with a max of 1 or 2 so everyone cannot have them all so to speak.

    Eat like a caveman, train like a beast. Champions are not born, they are made. 

    Jules
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited August 2013

    Agreed - I wanted to put feelers out on it because I really can't tell how the community is going to react.  @Cardan could you move to Dais for further consideration?

     

    Hmm.  Either I'm doing this wrong or Cardan is tired of people tagging him and has disabled the feature...

    Mizik
  • ArditiArditi Member Posts: 841 @ - Epic Achaean
    Clean Freak is a necessity for infiltration. Just saying.
    Simoln
  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Arditi said:
    Clean Freak is a necessity for infiltration. Just saying.
    You could also try, like, paying attention.
    Sylvance
  • ArditiArditi Member Posts: 841 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited August 2013
    I'll have you know that the Naga is the cleanest house in Sapience. Even our dust is phased.
  • SynbiosSynbios Member Posts: 4,634 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Good thing the Naga don't hold their meetings while phased...oh wait.

    Look on the bright side - in sPHASE, no one can hear you cough your lungs out.

    Yes, I made a pun. 
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited August 2013
    test:  @Jules  

    EDIT:  Hmm, I read up on this on Vanilla Forums' site... It's not supposed to be tricky, and I've tried it in two browsers. 
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 5,040 @@ - Legendary Achaean
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    Just put the @ symbol before my name as it mentions in their guidance... @Antonius.
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 5,040 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yeah, I know, was wondering how you managed to break it... I wonder if you can't @ yourself.
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited August 2013

    Hmm... maybe @Ourania could move it, or @Tecton?  But not @Cardan :)

     @Jules

    EDIT:  !!!  Vanilla Forums

  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    Apparently not, but at least my alt account for Cardan is now working...
    Sylvance
  • JonnersJonners Member Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Traits were designed to be limited. I could maybe see a single additional minor slot being purchased for like 100cr or so.
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  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    Yay, it got moved.  Thanks admin folk.  Right, because they are limited, I, like probably nearly everyone else, chose only the minor traits that are the most "utilitarian" for my purposes.  I'd only ever choose some of the "just cool" or "just fun" or "slightly utilitarian, but less so" traits if I could do so without losing the top picks.  The way I think of it is that a lot of those traits that someone took the time to develop are probably being completely wasted right now, because almost no one (or perhaps even absolutely no one) is choosing them.  
  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,542 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Jules said:
    Yay, it got moved.  Thanks admin folk.  Right, because they are limited, I, like probably nearly everyone else, chose only the minor traits that are the most "utilitarian" for my purposes.  I'd only ever choose some of the "just cool" or "just fun" or "slightly utilitarian, but less so" traits if I could do so without losing the top picks.  The way I think of it is that a lot of those traits that someone took the time to develop are probably being completely wasted right now, because almost no one (or perhaps even absolutely no one) is choosing them.  
    Making it so that everyone can just shell some credits in exchange for extra traits its a bit of missing the point, I think. Ironically, I think this is specially so for the the ones with rpg flavor. If you can't be bothered to pick one of those with your normal slots, then perhaps your character just does not have that trait at all.

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

    Trayu
  • VeldrinVeldrin DenmarkMember Posts: 545 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Not like any of them is really worth taking. Sitting with last 4 empty because there's nothing of worth to put in them
    Kyrra
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    So you only have one minor trait Veldrin?  Also, thanks for answering Tecton, I'd rather know as soon as possible if things are being considered or are a non-starter. 
  • VeldrinVeldrin DenmarkMember Posts: 545 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    trait list known
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Racial:   Amphibious
    Level 20: Brilliance               
    Level 30: Master enchanter         
    Level 40: Master contemplator      
    Level 50: Aim to kill              
    Level 60: Empty
    Level 70: Empty
    Level 80: Empty
    Level 90: Empty
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Key: Major Trait  Minor Trait


    The hardest choice I had was between 'Aim to Kill' or 'Lucky'. Before the trait reset I had them all filled out
  • TeshaTesha Member Posts: 3,006 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Use the rest to fit your RP. There are like 20 drunk ones, a few social ones, sailing ones, things like that. Not everything has to be min/maxed - this system is to promote character development without it coming at the cost to character performance, and that is a really good thing. Although it might be nice to have a few more non-drunk RP ones, not everyone is a drinker!

     i'm a rebel

    Shirszae
  • KyrraKyrra AustraliaMember Posts: 4,941 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Not everyone is a crafter or has karma/devotion/sunlight either.

    If I wasn't interested in crafting I probably wouldn't bother with traits simply because none are really useful for my character.

    Miss triage, health/mana weaver and other useful traits :/
    (D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."

    SylvanceKazu
  • NemutaurNemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    There's tons of minor traits that are useful for combat or raiding so it's good there's a limit.

    Devout, Soothsayer, Truth Seeker, and to a lesser extent Green tender.

    Master contemplator is great during raids or post raid for telepathy monks and anyone sanctioning rooms and raising shrines.

    Fully fit, well I guess you could sleep after worldburning since you didn't have the decency not to burn.

    Blissful ignorance, lovely against monks, devotion users and occultists. Keeps that armour on longer and lets you tumble, well better than usual I guess.

    Improved metabolism - not the greatest one, but helps if you need to scarf down that mutton chop against hunger attacks.

    Marksman - amazing raiding trait right there.

    Airborne - quite nice if you are flying a lot in combat and need to group up there.

    Harpooner - for anybody who loves sea combat I guess

    Admiral - see above

    Salty - see above

    Glass shatterer - combatants forget their mounts elsewhere too.

    Knife thrower - great for monks, jesters, occies, (not sure on sentinels)

    Meticulous care - not really great while in combat, but amazing because you don't have to spend as much time reinking that crap and risk forgetting that you have no tats in a fight.


    Sooo, if you give me more trait slots I'm sure I could fit in more stuff that I could use. Even the slightest chance at an advantage in combat is all we always want, but shouldn't get in this case.


    ShirszaeSylvance
  • VeldrinVeldrin DenmarkMember Posts: 545 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Tesha said:
    Use the rest to fit your RP. There are like 20 drunk ones, a few social ones, sailing ones, things like that. Not everything has to be min/maxed - this system is to promote character development without it coming at the cost to character performance, and that is a really good thing. Although it might be nice to have a few more non-drunk RP ones, not everyone is a drinker!
    I thought I made it quite clear that none of them fit, that's why I haven't picked any of them.
    Kyrra
  • TraxtinTraxtin Member Posts: 7
    So we have minor traits for Certain Classes:

    Alchemist: Master Metallurgist
    Apostate: Truth Seeker
    Druid Green Tender + Master Harvester
    Infernal: Truth Seeker + Master Forger
    Magi: Master Enchanter
    Occultist: Soothsayer
    Paladin: Devout + Master Forger
    Priest: Devout
    Rune Warden: Master Forger
    Sentinel: Master Harvester
    Serpent: Master Milker
    Sylvan: Green Tender + Master Harvester

    But nothing for: Bard, Blademaster, Jester, Monk, Shaman
  • CathyCathy Member Posts: 377 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Traxtin said:
    So we have minor traits for Certain Classes:

    Alchemist: Master Metallurgist
    Apostate: Truth Seeker
    Druid Green Tender + Master Harvester
    Infernal: Truth Seeker + Master Forger
    Magi: Master Enchanter
    Occultist: Soothsayer
    Paladin: Devout + Master Forger
    Priest: Devout
    Rune Warden: Master Forger
    Sentinel: Master Harvester
    Serpent: Master Milker
    Sylvan: Green Tender + Master Harvester

    But nothing for: Bard, Blademaster, Jester, Monk, Shaman
    Jester+Monk - Knife thrower
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  • SylvanceSylvance Member Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited September 2013

    Kyrra said:
    Blademaster and Shaman need That Time Of The Month: increases bleeding and reduces clotting.
    Damn near pissed myself laughing


    Anyway:

    Blademaster: Living Legend - removes all crap adjectives from Murad's RNG.
          Storied Blade - shows your Brokenstars even to people without deathsight on.
    Tvistor: If that was a troll, it was masterful.
    I take my hat off to you.
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 5,040 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Traxtin: Those classes don't have trade skills or unique resources, which is why they don't have class specific traits.
    SynbiosBorran
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