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Saddest moment

AodfionnAodfionn Seattle, WAPosts: 1,187 @@ - Legendary Achaean
What has been the saddest moment for your character, or for you as the player as it relates to your character? Why did it suck? What came of it?
Aurora says, "Are you drunk, Aodfionn?" 

(The Targossian Academy): Halos says, "Go on! I need to feel the wind in my hair!"


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  • TrillianaTrilliana Posts: 1,968 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I was actually online when Lady Selene was killed and I was absolutely heartbroken. Trilliana was as well, but she was a Senator at the time and focusing on the city was more important than her grief. It's something that keeps making me go dormant, to be honest. The Order was her family and nothing can repair that, so dormancy is the only option I can see for Trilliana.

    Lord Phaestus would have been my only other choice for joining an Order, but with Him gone, there's no real connection to try to latch onto and join another family.
    meh


    QwynUtianima
  • JeslynJeslyn United StatesPosts: 482 @ - Epic Achaean
    I don't even know anymore, they all blur together, but I wrote this a year ago in response to the Cyrenians being denied devotion. I ended up leaving Cyrene too, went rogue for ten ic years, and eventually became Eleusian. Never actually got excommed like I thought I would do in the letter.

    My greatest friend and teacher,

    This is not the easiest letter to write out of the ones I’ve written you. My heart has been dealt the wrong hand when it should be a royal flush. It was just a month ago that I have been advised of my sentence if I do not cast off Cyrene as my home. And in a month’s time I shall be excommed like a criminal, because my former Deacon, what would I be if I did not follow who I am? Is this not something we’ve discussed over boughts of tea and my constant worrying that my teacher disregards the fact that he is incredible. You will always be in my eyes incredible, despite all that has transpired over these past few months. In these sixteen years, I have had the pleasure of working alongside with you, a Targossian, because it was you that brought a sense of hope to my eyes. We were not just Cyrenians to you as with your predecessors, meant to be trampled upon. No, we were people that you’ve taught, argued with, and brought to flourish to a tiny community even for a short while. This is what you will be known for, not the harbinger of a mass exodus.With this said, I scorn the death of my devoted soul and hope that I meet it innocent of any crime. I am a Vorondil, albeit a young one. I will stand before my accusers bravely, knowing the charges laid against me were not ones I could control. And when the proverbial hand rips out my heart, I will remain a priestess until I can no more. This is who I am and it is who you taught me to be. A person of value, one that fights for what she believes. I will take no offer of immunity, you’ve given me, nor will I take the easy route. Please do respect my decision on this and know you will always have a friend in me.My beloved friend, let me close with this, the future that lies ahead of me is dark. It, however, does not need be for you. Please let this letter be a light and comfort to your heart. Let it also be a light to my former mentee, your now daughter, who I had thought at first would was a hopeless case, but has brought me much surprise these past years under your care. Those around you flourish, because you are a true beacon of light. I leave to you the amulet and the ring you gave me when I was just a young priestess, not even 20 years old. They have guided me well in my fight against wickedness, but I do not wish to bear the weight of them. Least I remember the times we had, and come running despite my resolve. I wish you happiness. Go into Sapience knowing that while you were everything to me as a teacher, that I will be fine.Sincerely, Jeslyn Vorondil

    QuisseQwynExelethrilSiduri
  • KyrraKyrra Sanctum of the SkyPosts: 4,114 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Losing Selene.

    Even with the build up to it happening and knowing that it was inevitable, watching it all unfold before my eyes just left me grief-stricken. Selene turned up just a few months after I started playing, and being Beloved from such a young age shaped the way that Kyrra evolved as a person. It was years of interactions and such an investment into my character and her history, that it was such a devastating loss to experience.

    While I cried for about two weeks over it, Kyrra got left in mourning for such a long time as a result. The loss left her closed off and a little jaded about things, more so when some people would try to emotionally manipulate her and tarnish her memories.
    (D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."

    TrillianaQwyn
  • TexelTexel Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Losing the Black Lotus.  13 RL years of devotion to the seven energies and the way gone in an instant. 
    Okk tells you, "You 'woof'ed on a house channel in a conversation with the Lord Bard."

    SobriquetRangorAntidasRennyn
  • AchillesAchilles Los AngelesPosts: 2,250 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    you cried IRL?  I was a little annoyed that the Templars went down but Shallam was just so broken at the time it felt more like euthanasia more than anything.
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    HalosKyrra
  • TreyTrey Posts: 4,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Aodfionn said:
    What has been the saddest moment for your character, or for you as the player as it relates to your character? Why did it suck? What came of it?
    Was yours bombing the Genji delegation?

  • SzanthaxSzanthax San DiegoPosts: 1,903 @ - Epic Achaean
    Achilles said:
    you cried IRL?  I was a little annoyed that the Templars went down but Shallam was just so broken at the time it felt more like euthanasia more than anything.
    OMG ACHILLES.... your friggin signature makes me want a prime rib.

    Also... did you get your goddamn stocking yet???



    Nataliia
  • AnedhelAnedhel Posts: 2,367 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    For Annie, when Sothantos came out of the Caverns of Enheduanna with an opened-up torso and no eyes (that was hardcore). Ended up being a catalyst to move to Eleusis, though, which was pretty good! 

    For me, when Aldair stopped playing. It sucked because Aldair actually used to drive me to do a lot of City/Order stuff, which I don't do nearly as much of anymore. Hard to feel connected when someone like that is out (specially without saying goodbye or anything). I miss Aldair :( 
    AnzeQuisseLachlan
  • AodfionnAodfionn Seattle, WAPosts: 1,187 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Trey said:
    Aodfionn said:
    What has been the saddest moment for your character, or for you as the player as it relates to your character? Why did it suck? What came of it?
    Was yours bombing the Genji delegation?

    lol wut. who jizzed in your cheerios, bro? i don't quite understand the source of the constant salt, but if you ever feel keen on sharing, feel free to PM me!

    My saddest moment was excommunicating Elowen, and the 45 minutes of interaction that preceded it. That was the one moment where I really questioned whether or not I wanted to roll with Team Good.  
    Aurora says, "Are you drunk, Aodfionn?" 

    (The Targossian Academy): Halos says, "Go on! I need to feel the wind in my hair!"


  • TreyTrey Posts: 4,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Constant salt? Lol. Salt would imply that I'm disappointed, not poking fun at you. Carry on though.

  • SkyeSkye The Duchess BellaterePosts: 2,421 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    We finished the plague event, but no Neroes. :(


    MelodieTrillianaShirszaeAereidhna
  • SzanthaxSzanthax San DiegoPosts: 1,903 @ - Epic Achaean
    When I came back from dormancy and I'd been removed from order and Aegis was dormant... And so was Hermes. I'd been so dormant he'd come and gone before I came back



    Ahmet
  • HalosHalos Posts: 1,391 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Cleaning up all of those Xoran dead bodies was pretty brutal.

    SiduriTrillianaAereidhna
  • SzanthaxSzanthax San DiegoPosts: 1,903 @ - Epic Achaean
    Halos said:
    Cleaning up all of those Xoran dead bodies was pretty brutal.
    "Get the mop!!"



    Aereidhna
  • MelodieMelodie MhaldorPosts: 4,372 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 2016
    This is a really hard choice. Mel's been through so many moments of despair, agony, and sadness. I probably could list about twenty of them, and I'm sure plenty of others could name several that rank in the top five easily.

    But if I really have to pick a single one, I'd go with the moment she found out that the one person she never expected to break an important oath, despite everything else going on (much of which was her own fault), actually did. I think it shattered her world and her faith in a way Targossas only dreamed it could have done. She's still picking up those pieces and trying to make a mosaic of them to disguise the true nature of it from others.

    Beyond that somewhat vague answer, the second (and more known) moment would be the first excommunication. The second just made for a very bitter experience that is deeply embedded forever, while the first was the real devastation, uncertainty, and loss of confidence and place in the world. Which, in contrast, made the redemption probably one of her highest moments in her complex life history - even today, she's not really been able to replicate that feeling of triumph over adversity and doubt. Not yet.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
    YselaQwyn
  • RyzethRyzeth Posts: 985 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Dajio getting unshrubbed constantly is always a big downer.

    Convos with Piera and Elly when Ryzeth finally decided to leave Ashtan, after living there for so long, were kinda sad.

    Nothing else springs much to mind.
    Aereidhna
  • NakariNakari Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Kiet said:
    Tbh I'm  not a fan of how many semi-active orders got deleted in that big purge, and this thread kind of shows why. We did have too many gods, maybe, but did the ones with engaged orders (and some with gods that still came around sometimes?) need to go?
    We still are nowhere near filling the current god roles we have, but I agree, really. Particularly since it seems like pretty much all the more nuanced domains got axed, which feels like it leaves a lot of holes for various character types. I'm honestly still baffled that Selene was lost. Reasonably active order, and it doesn't seem like any current god is really close.

    And I guess to tie that into the topic, as a player I was really sad at all the gods that died. There were several among my characters that I would have been interested in, and I think more importantly, as someone who really enjoyed the different philosophies and theologies, seeing so many interesting ones disappear in such a short span still depresses me (I have somewhat similar feelings about the renaissance, too). The changes were necessary, but I would have loved it if there was more mechanical preservation of the now dead ideals, and such. The world just seems like a less colorful place with most gods just being incarnations of their faction.

    NataliiaShirszaeAereidhnaTrilliana
  • KietKiet Posts: 1,583 @ - Epic Achaean
    I know it's kind of arbitrary but I don't mind like Kastalia/Melantha getting axed since afaik no one was even in their orders anymore and no one had seen the gods in years. But Selene/Indrani/some others had active orders and were still doing things right before it happened and I'm not sure why they had to go.
    NakariShirszaeNataliia
  • MelodieMelodie MhaldorPosts: 4,372 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kastalia was active of the time of her axeing, with an active (if small) Order, including with well-respected players (like Iocun).

    Generally very much agree on what's been said about Gods getting axed, though. While culling some was a good idea, it seems overdone.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
    Trilliana
  • KietKiet Posts: 1,583 @ - Epic Achaean
    Oh well then not Kastalia, but you know what I mean.
    MelodieShirszae
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StatePosts: 2,617 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 2016
    Yeah I do wonder why some Gods got axed and others didn't. Lady Selene wasn't SUPER active like Phaestus and Scarlatti (at the time), but she was pretty consistent to the point where I'd say she wasn't ever dormant, at least during the time I got to be in her Order. Also, had a pretty active Order at the time... like, more members than a lot of "active" Orders that are still around. I know Lord Prospero has at least two members still, but other than during the Bal'met event I haven't seen him around at all and wonder why maybe he didn't get cut from the list of remaining divine. On the other hand, he's always seemed fascinating and since he's still alive I do hope one day a Celani will take interest when getting promoted to a God role and will choose him because I'd really like to see what he's like.

    Edit: Also, a lot of those members from Selene's Order are still active to this day, so it would've remained a decent sized Order.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

    TrillianaKyrra
  • RangorRangor Posts: 2,737 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 2016
    When I realized Covenant wouldn't be there to lead Eleusis/Sentinels anymore.

    And when Gaia dispersed her essence throughout the woods to cure them. (The Gaia of a looong time ago!)


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  • KayeilKayeil Washington StatePosts: 2,617 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    That reminds me, for those of us who were here, it was really sad what happened to Lord Sarapis and Lady Maya in the Bal'met event. That was some great storytelling.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

  • NataliiaNataliia Posts: 305 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Don't really have a lot that would qualify as a saddest moment on Nataliia. She's too young. And really, I'm still trying to figure out what pair of (proverbial) shoes she fits into. Ever have a character that's just not quite "clicking" somehow? Yeah. That.

    But over the years and different lives I'd say I agree that the nixing of various Gods was probably the most disappointing thing that has happened. I was there for the divine child war, sleepless for a couple days and on red bulls or monsters or whatever the hell was the go-to energy drink at the time because the event was awesome.  And then, second to (old-school-disband-his-order-every-other-day) Twilight, my favorite Goddess came about by way of Indrani (the original, not sure how many times that one changed hands). It should say something that I wasn't even playing Achaea at the time when I heard about the event that offed her, and was still crushed by the thought. :(

    I have always been an avid lover of Divine RP. I think it adds SO much flavor to Achaea. It suddenly stops being a "player run order" and goes back to its natural state of players actually having to believe in the God they're following and the theology behind it, instead of just being in it for the nostalgia or their order rank or whatever else.

    I also miss seeing zaps on the daily (please don't take that as an invitation Garden!) But they were pretty funny to watch back in the day, as were the Divine shouting matches.

    But yeah, back on topic. If I had to think of something even remotely sad with Nataliia, it'd be that she lost someone she really cares about due to a fundamental difference in personal views. Won't get into the details, but that's always a hard one to swallow.
    Aziik
  • NakariNakari Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Kayeil said:
    Yeah I do wonder why some Gods got axed and others didn't.
    It seems like the two priorities were reducing the number of gods in the more factionally aligned cities (Mhaldor went from 3-4 to 1 and Good from 4 to 2), and the pretty much complete elimination of gods not tied to an organization. Out of the surviving "neutral" gods, the survivors were something like Phaestus, Naraeos, and Scarlatti (all of whom have pretty strong ties to Cyrene), Vastar (who's ideology was replaced with Chaos/Ashtan when he showed up again), Prospero and Pandora (with natural thematic ties to the neutral houses), Valnurana (obvious reasons), and Lorielan, who seems like the only truly unattached god now (she's also an elder god, which probably upped her chances of survival).

    There's probably reasons why that isn't the most accurate theory explaining it, but it's how it's generally felt to me. While it does have the advantage of most god roles being in a good position to thematically act as a patron to organizations, it's left few character options outside of the established major ideologies (which themselves are more factional then ever, but that's a different debate). 

    Personally, even if they had to kill of/otherwise remove a god, I wish they'd left some support for the remaining order persisting as an organization. It seems like most orders just folded up shop when their god died, for obvious reasons, but orders often exist without the god around at the time, so I wonder if some mechanical/rp support couldn't have saved them in some form or another. I don't know, it would have required a different philosophy then was used for Bal'met and the renaissance, but might have preserved some very interesting facets of the game that now persist only in memory.

  • KayeilKayeil Washington StatePosts: 2,617 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Nakari -- I do know some of those Gods who were "offed" still play, just as other Gods now. I think one of my biggest curiosities left over is if those people behind the Gods who were killed had any choice in the matter, or if they were told "sorry, deleting your god, please pick another from this short list." Either way it would've been interesting, whether they were just bored and wanted to try something new, or what it would've been liking filling entirely different shoes from what they've been used to.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

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