THIS, is why earrings need to be downgraded. A supposed "Duel"

Grandue

Lol @ earrings being the problem behind people being lame. I bet you believe that guns are the reason people are shooting each other too?

On a side note, about 50% of the time I earring to Tanris he gets me killed.

(Party:) Tanris says, "Come"

-Earring

-Totem

-Rites

-Harmonics

-Vibes

-Guards

-10 enemies

-Dead

(Party:) You say, "WTF DUDE?!"

Synbios

Tanris said:

In regards to the Manifest thing: why does everyone insist that just because two people are fighting one v one its a duel?

In regards to thread: this was great. Thanks Cain, you bring out the troll in people most magnificently.

His rage-shake brings all the trolls to the yard. They're like, "He's madder than yours." Damn right, he's madder than yours. He could teach you, but he'll have to charge(15 lessons per session).

Aeolithon

Grandue said:

Lol @ earrings being the problem behind people being lame. I bet you believe that guns are the reason people are shooting each other too?

On a side note, about 50% of the time I earring to Tanris he gets me killed.

(Party:) Tanris says, "Come"

-Earring

-Totem

-Rites

-Harmonics

-Vibes

-Guards

-10 enemies

-Dead

(Party:) You say, "WTF DUDE?!"

Just because this particular post irked me.

Earrings are 'overpowered'. They are overpowered because they bypass all standard room hindering. They go past monoliths. They take no wind-up. They can turn a 1 man-team into a 44346 man team. They just do need some kind of adjusting. The fact that all sides can use it is no more a balancing factor than giving access of pit to everyone. What kind of a solution is that? It would be great if a monolith on one side of the earrings slowed it down to two seconds or room hindering snagged it, but eh. I'm not raging against earrings, they don't bother me that much. Why try to argue something is fine that just isn't, though? That's the part that annoys me.

Your 'side note' is totally irrelevant though, by the way, as is your comment on gun fatalities (Lol what?).

Also, @Manifest. I imagine your lack of want to get into 1v1 stems not out of how easy it is to survive(run away) in duels, which is actually irrelevant thanks to your class, but as to how you (probably) just aren't very good and rely on never actually fighting on your own to keep you above water while Mark. No, coming to kill me while I'm still a novice isn't a very good method of proving this wrong. 

And @Bluef. Jesus christ, pot-kettle much? I think the last time I fought you, you literally ran away after every single fashion. Be it fly or all the way back to your totemed the fuck out of home. This was also a duel.

Ugh, people. How you make me sad.

Jhui

quality rant +1

Cooper

Kid needs to change his name.

Aeolithon

Enough of that.

Tanris

Few things:

First, there are aspects of earrings which you could consider overpowered. I'm not getting into that argument because we've had it about ten times already in different threads: I will say that most of the times  earrings seem to facilitate conflict, not stop it (unlike pit, completely different issues).

The one v one comments irritated me for some reason, idk why. I'm not sure if the insinuation was intentional or if I just interpreted it that why, but why should someone need to prove they're good at one v one. If they don't enjoy it and prefer team combat, that's 100% as legitimate as if they were a die hard one v one player.

Aeolithon

I don't want to get into the earrings argument: I was just commenting on an annoying thing someone else said, whether or not a person chooses to respond to that is totally up to them.

I don't mean to say that a person cannot play achaea/fight without getting involved in 1v1, before anyone jumps on that. Sure it's 100% as legitimate being a group combatant rather than more of a 1v1 fighter. The part that bugs me is acting like the reason you don't fight 1v1 is because survival has gotten too easy and not because you're just not all that good. Say you prefer fighting in teams because you don't take to 1v1 as opposed to insinuating it's game mechanics that are stopping you from fighting. I've nothing against Mani personally and I don't know him too well, that's just the impression I've got from seeing some things from him in-game and on the forums. I'm sorry if you're not acting like you're actually good when you aren't (Hell, you might be great!), just like Tanris misinterpreted me, perhaps I've misinterpreted you. 

It's just the arrogance of some people who act like they're better than others, and then refuse to prove it and only gank you in teams. I haven't been on the receiving end of this myself from Manifest, but I have seen him do it to others.

And er, this went on a bit further than I intended. So gonna leave that there for now.

Cain

Earrings are just stupid. Even gare takes a few seconds to work, and you can be put to sleep at least. Or otherwise hindered.

Kyrra

Earrings don't always work in some situations though. If you happen to be offplane, prone, asleep, mindless, the other person isn't online, etc etc

They're an artefact and I think they're nerfed compared to how brilliant they used to be. :P

I'm actually considering paying to get the lines changed on mine. It's kind of awkward when you're standing there with your husband and another man shows up with the look of true love in his eyes.

Aepas

I hate earrings.

I realize they are not going away.

Cooper

Earrings are incredibly powerful.

I'm not sure they are overpowered (without a doubt, borderline), but it is incredibly frustrating knowing that if I attack any of the popular Ashtani fighters that I can have 15 people (seriously) attacking me in the next few seconds.

Jarrod

We'd have to be really coordinated to do that. Not all of Tanris' earrings are active, and I'm pretty sure at least one is a shrub.

Triak

ITT:  Artifacts are powerful and give you an advantage over players without them.

Dorn

Kyrra said:

I'm actually considering paying to get the lines changed on mine. It's kind of awkward when you're standing there with your husband and another man shows up with the look of true love in his eyes.

Someone I know asked about that and got told it'd be something insane like 1000cr to change the lines. Apparently there's some custom coding involved or something.

I have no idea how accurate this was, but it put me off the idea.

(300cr, -max-, I could see - 50cr to customize the travel message, 50cr to customize the arrival message, 50cr to customize the earrings themselves, x2 for two sets of customizations. But 1000cr?)

Iocun

Things like that also have a certain degree of combat relevance though. If people look out for earring lines (or have echos/highlights for them), they are likely to miss them if the message has changed, giving this earring-user an additional advantage. That's probably also partly why customisations like this are so expensive.

Kyrra

I think because it would have to be changed for two items, and effects the first and third person messages.

I bought a pair of earrings for someone and his wife as a gift and they were looking to get them customised so they would be unique to them. 1000cr was the quote.

There's just other things I'd want to spend credits on first. It's something that's on the list for in future though.

Manifest

I'm interested to hear Grandue's argument on how people would shoot others without guns. 

@Aeolithon - Your 19 IC, so I'm assuming it's an alt, but either way you probably weren't around when I was more interested in 1v1 combat. Truth be told, I've just returned to the game a little over two months ago and picked up Runie about a month ago...I've spent maybe one RL hour developing a couple of 1v1 methods which I haven't even tested. I'm completely and utterly not entertained by it. It's like saying I suck at quantum physics which, in reality, sure I do...because I haven't spent any time studying it and I'm not interested in the least. I don't claim RL or IC that I am the best of the best 1v1, so I'm always baffled when people rage at or "insult" my 1v1 combat prowess. Legit do not care.

Cooper

Mad cause bad.

Trey

Manifest said:

I'm interested to hear Grandue's argument on how people would shoot others without guns. 

@Aeolithon - Your 19 IC, so I'm assuming it's an alt, but either way you probably weren't around when I was more interested in 1v1 combat. Truth be told, I've just returned to the game a little over two months ago and picked up Runie about a month ago...I've spent maybe one RL hour developing a couple of 1v1 methods which I haven't even tested. I'm completely and utterly not entertained by it. It's like saying I suck at quantum physics which, in reality, sure I do...because I haven't spent any time studying it and I'm not interested in the least. I don't claim RL or IC that I am the best of the best 1v1, so I'm always baffled when people rage at or "insult" my 1v1 combat prowess. Legit do not care.

On a purely OOC level, I get what you mean. I go in spurts where I can just not be arsed to be involved in combat. On an IC level, Trey holds Mani in some contempt because of his obvious reluctance to stand man-to-man. I lol'd when I hit that totem the other day, by the way. Good job.

Darroth

Earrings are op as hell. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just being silly. 

Mizik

8-}

Kaie

Manifest said:

I'm interested to hear Grandue's argument on how people would shoot others without guns. 

@Aeolithon - Your 19 IC, so I'm assuming it's an alt, but either way you probably weren't around when I was more interested in 1v1 combat. Truth be told, I've just returned to the game a little over two months ago and picked up Runie about a month ago...I've spent maybe one RL hour developing a couple of 1v1 methods which I haven't even tested. I'm completely and utterly not entertained by it. It's like saying I suck at quantum physics which, in reality, sure I do...because I haven't spent any time studying it and I'm not interested in the least. I don't claim RL or IC that I am the best of the best 1v1, so I'm always baffled when people rage at or "insult" my 1v1 combat prowess. Legit do not care.

Yeah, I don't know who he is either but, he clearly is. 

@aeolithon Who are you? 

Zeon

Why does that matter?

Kyrra

@Mizik, was that... a raspberry?

Vaehl

Doesn't really matter, it's someone who obviously seems to know his stuff.

Kaie

@ Zeon It just puts things into perspective and possibly adds credibility to his comments. If I made an alt and say.. I named him Wiggler. Then I joined forums as Wiggler and posted about how Zeon ran away from me in a duel. You're going to be like wtf is Wiggler? and your friends will be like WTF is wiggler? Then, I go on to post things regarding class skills and pk as if I know about them but to anyone looking at my characters info is going to see i'm fresh from the trial and wonder why they should listen to anything I say at all. See where i'm coming from Zeon or is the hard shell encasing that minuscule mind of yours still acting as a reflective barrier to common sense?

Achilles

Interesting the group with the most earrings thinks its fine the one who has to face thek the most doesn't. What a twist.

Zeon

@Kaie

I was just curious because it sounded like (and now you've admitted to) trying to detract from the credibility of his/her post by fixating on his/her alt status. This is a public forum and we rate people's comments on their quality, not their in-game stature.

Edit: Also I'm not sure why you're slinging insults my way after a four word forum response to a comment of yours.

Kaie said:

@ Zeon It just puts things into perspective and possibly adds credibility to his comments. If I made an alt and say.. I named him Wiggler. Then I joined forums as Wiggler and posted about how Zeon ran away from me in a duel. You're going to be like wtf is Wiggler? and your friends will be like WTF is wiggler? Then, I go on to post things regarding class skills and pk as if I know about them but to anyone looking at my characters info is going to see i'm fresh from the trial and wonder why they should listen to anything I say at all. See where i'm coming from Zeon or is the hard shell encasing that minuscule mind of yours still acting as a reflective barrier to common sense?

Kyrra

Not everyone abuses the shit out of them. That being said, @Tvistor would have removed my head from my shoulders last night without them! So much </3.

I use mine for the convenience of travel and I really see no difference between them and the vodun travel ability. I've had a pair of earrings for as long as Khairt and Kyrra have been married, which is like 248 IG years or something now. I've used them to avoid death, theft, wasting inks on raidos and turning up to cleave the little sirens that follow my husband around.

Others utilise them differently, obviously, but I don't see them as being that massively OP. They are pricey and they restrict you to use one other person. For the purpose of this thread, you might as well whine about any other ability that requires assistance in removing you from your location. Yank, hoist, grove summon, vodun summon, empress, deliver, beckon, lunge and probably countless others. Mudlet mapper goto saved me getting ganked by Tanris in UW and Cadarus in Delos.