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MinifieMinifie Posts: 1,921Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
edited December 2017 in North of Thera
ANNOUNCE NEWS #4855                                     (12/17/2017 at 01:17)  
From   : Nicola
To     : Everyone
Subject: The Tash'la!
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We were considering getting you all Logosmas gifts and took a gander at Ironbeard's naughty and nice 
lists. Well, you were almost all horrible enough to earn coal in your stockings (so much denizen 
blood spilled), but we've been under a bit of pressure to deliver something special.

This pressure hasn't been quite great enough to create diamonds, but we don't think this addition 
will boar you at all.

Thanks to the efforts of all who gathered earth cores, the Tash'la are now available as a player 
race!

Head to https://www.achaea.com/2017/12/16/the-tashla/ for a glimpse at their artwork!

Enjoy!

Penned by My hand on the 23rd of Ero, in the year 759 AF.

The racial home of the tash'la people lies not upon Sapience, nor even Meropis, but on a world far 
from the homes of most adventurers. Beneath the shattered moons of a distant world upon Yggdrasil's 
boughs reside the tribes of the Kelstaad, roaming across violet and gold prairies and delving deep 
into earth and soil for riches undreamed of. Since their now-legendary Freeing and overthrow of 
their old ways to embrace the new, they have held firm alliance with Elemental Earth, spreading out 
across the great expanse of the World Tree's branches. Arriving upon the world of Achaea in 759 AF 
during the great Elemental turmoil, the tash'la began to spread out, seeking ever more awareness of 
the Prime Material Plane and the new world unveiled to them.

A race of boar-like humanoids, they generally disdain the mystical arts, working as close-knit, 
resilient groups in the depths of a melee. Crystalline growths adorn their joints and flow forth 
from their skull in place of hair, brought forth by the mineral dormium from an early age and 
infusing them with some of Earth's legendary resilience, bolstering an already formidable race to 
new heights of fortitude. Tending towards the violets and indigos of dormium, there are nevertheless 
other colours represented upon their geodesic mutation, ranging from cool turquoise to rare, fiery 
red.

Statistics for this race:
Specialisation      Str.        Dex.        Con.        Int.
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Unspecialised       12          11          14          11
Vanguard            14          11          14          10
Traverser           12          13          13          11
Protector           12          10          16          11
Elder               11          11          14          13

This race has the following trait:
Terran Will
- Grants the ability to HUNCH, making it hard to move you (conveys the standing firm defence).
- Rare minerals you consume shall convey their benefits for 10% longer than normal.

Dat con, shaman/jester/apostates rejoice!

Speculation: 4 elements, 4 stats, 4 new races? These guys ARE aligned to earth!


(Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Taryius says, "Oops, thats not a foray. Thats two novices going at it in the wilderness."
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Comments

  • KietKiet Posts: 2,878Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    As cool as the race and the lore is... a 14 con race is absurdly broken for classes that only care about tankiness. The current race stats thing where you're doomed to be suboptimal if you want to roleplay your race only got worse, now. Pls to divorce stats from race.

    Otoh, maybe terran will has heavy downsides, the trait has no info yet.
  • TelendriethTelendrieth Posts: 213Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Ever since I saw these things I rather loved them. I was not expecting this. Damn nice surprise guys!

    I'm struggling not to make an "Extra Thicc" comment about dat con though..
    Utianima
  • MinifieMinifie Posts: 1,921Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Ever since I saw these things I rather loved them. I was not expecting this. Damn nice surprise guys!

    I'm struggling not to make an "Extra Thicc" comment about dat con though..
    Image result for extra thicc aku        


    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Taryius says, "Oops, thats not a foray. Thats two novices going at it in the wilderness."
    TelendriethAsmodron
  • TelendriethTelendrieth Posts: 213Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished

    Terran Will

    - Grants the ability to HUNCH, making it hard to move you (conveys the standing firm defence).

    - Rare minerals you consume shall convey their benefits for 10% longer than normal.

  • KietKiet Posts: 2,878Member @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Terran Will

    - Grants the ability to HUNCH, making it hard to move you (conveys the standing firm defence).

    - Rare minerals you consume shall convey their benefits for 10% longer than normal.

    Well then this race is just absurdly powerful, making anything but this race a terrible choice for pk/bashing for a few classes.
  • MinifieMinifie Posts: 1,921Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kiet said:

    Terran Will

    - Grants the ability to HUNCH, making it hard to move you (conveys the standing firm defence).

    - Rare minerals you consume shall convey their benefits for 10% longer than normal.

    Well then this race is just absurdly powerful, making anything but this race a terrible choice for pk/bashing for a few classes.
    Hmm? I couldn't hear you over my 19/18 str/con runewarden self before fury... So ridic :D


    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Taryius says, "Oops, thats not a foray. Thats two novices going at it in the wilderness."
  • CooperCooper IowaPosts: 4,456Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kiet said:

    Terran Will

    - Grants the ability to HUNCH, making it hard to move you (conveys the standing firm defence).

    - Rare minerals you consume shall convey their benefits for 10% longer than normal.

    Well then this race is just absurdly powerful, making anything but this race a terrible choice for pk/bashing for a few classes.
    You're over reacting, and the second statement is not really accurate.

    That race will be significantly slower bashing than pretty much every other race. 

    Strength/int/dex is very important. 1 point is roughly 6% bashing speed.



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  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,702Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I don’t see anything yet that makes me want to suddenly swap to it, for con or str builds. Knee jerk reactions aren’t usually accurate.


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  • KietKiet Posts: 2,878Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited December 2017
    Cooper said:
    Kiet said:

    Terran Will

    - Grants the ability to HUNCH, making it hard to move you (conveys the standing firm defence).

    - Rare minerals you consume shall convey their benefits for 10% longer than normal.

    Well then this race is just absurdly powerful, making anything but this race a terrible choice for pk/bashing for a few classes.
    You're over reacting, and the second statement is not really accurate.

    That race will be significantly slower bashing than pretty much every other race. 

    Strength/int/dex is very important. 1 point is roughly 6% bashing speed.


    How is a 3 con differential between the top and worst con races reasonable? The point of the new races was to diminish 'min-maxing', and I've made my opinion clear on how it didn't go far enough. This is doing the opposite, though.

    A lot of people (not me, but still) will take tankiness over a slight dps increase in bashing any day. That's completely ignoring the fact that str/int are not even remotely as worthwhile as con in pk for several classes.

    Dwarf is better for the non-physical damage types, but the majority of the high damage classes are purely or mostly physical, which means this race is a lot better for those. In addition, con has the benefit of possibly pushing you past a limb damage breakpoint, which in the case of absurd classes like DWB becomes very important. This is without addressing the fact that, well, dwarf shouldn't be the king anyway.

    This isn't a 'kneejerk reaction.' It's the same thing I've been saying for years now (the stat spreads for the races are not ideal). This is simply pushing that same argument even further. Now, if you're a mhun or satyr you're at least 900 hp behind the min-maxed con race at level 100, versus 600 before (which was bad, too).

    It's a bit silly for a game based largely around roleplay to not only punish role-play choices for races, but to then push to make those choices even less ideal.
  • KeorinKeorin Posts: 538Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Kiet said:
    As cool as the race and the lore is... a 14 con race is absurdly broken for classes that only care about tankiness. The current race stats thing where you're doomed to be suboptimal if you want to roleplay your race only got worse, now. Pls to divorce stats from race.

    Otoh, maybe terran will has heavy downsides, the trait has no info yet.
    Like the other +str or +con races, this one seems to be balanced around being less pretty/humanlike then less optimal races. 
    MinifieKietLennShirszae
  • CailinCailin Posts: 192Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Minifie said:
    Speculation: 4 elements, 4 stats, 4 new races? These guys ARE aligned to earth!
    I'm thinking more like four different things, not all races. I was thinking about how air brought Vastar's return. Maybe we'll get another class, or another tradeskill? I don't know, but this is really cool, no wonder they said it was "big". :)
  • MinifieMinifie Posts: 1,921Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Keorin said:
    Kiet said:
    As cool as the race and the lore is... a 14 con race is absurdly broken for classes that only care about tankiness. The current race stats thing where you're doomed to be suboptimal if you want to roleplay your race only got worse, now. Pls to divorce stats from race.

    Otoh, maybe terran will has heavy downsides, the trait has no info yet.
    Like the other +str or +con races, this one seems to be balanced around being less pretty/humanlike then less optimal races. 
    I mean, She is a mighty Tash'la but is actually a beautiful siren...


    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Taryius says, "Oops, thats not a foray. Thats two novices going at it in the wilderness."
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  • KietKiet Posts: 2,878Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Keorin said:
    Kiet said:
    As cool as the race and the lore is... a 14 con race is absurdly broken for classes that only care about tankiness. The current race stats thing where you're doomed to be suboptimal if you want to roleplay your race only got worse, now. Pls to divorce stats from race.

    Otoh, maybe terran will has heavy downsides, the trait has no info yet.
    Like the other +str or +con races, this one seems to be balanced around being less pretty/humanlike then less optimal races. 
    Yeah, which is... not great, imo.
  • TelendriethTelendrieth Posts: 213Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Nicola said:
    As I teased at a few days ago (and now updated for recent events), we're at about 50% of the build release and maybe 35% of the development team effort live so far. Tomorrow is going to be pretty great!
    You are making me be awful and keep a computer up and running so I can peek in at work! Thankfully patient volume is usually down this time of year. :P 
  • TysandrTysandr Posts: 439Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Nicola said:
    As I teased at a few days ago (and now updated for recent events), we're at about 50% of the build release and maybe 35% of the development team effort live so far. Tomorrow is going to be pretty great!
    Americans. 

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  • MinifieMinifie Posts: 1,921Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @nicola that female one is -amazing-, I REALLY wish stats could be divorced, I would love to be a tash'la magi without overgimping myself, that is an amazing concept to visualise!


    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Taryius says, "Oops, thats not a foray. Thats two novices going at it in the wilderness."
  • AsmodronAsmodron Posts: 2,495Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Hmm, for a boar-like race...i'm getting more of a sabertooth feel when I look at them. Though the canines are upside down >>
    Torinn
  • TorinnTorinn Posts: 942Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Yes, I think they're more like.. squirrels or feline than boar
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    AsmodronHalos
  • DaironDairon Posts: 304Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Less than 10 hours after I decide to buy a dagger and reincarnate.... worst timing ever! 

    But very cool race. Looking forward to the character descriptions out there!
  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoPosts: 3,002Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I love the lore of the Tash'la. Having them as a race is fantastic. The art looks damn awesome too

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

  • KeorinKeorin Posts: 538Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I love the race, they've got some actually interesting lore and identity, and they're tied into some very interesting things.

    I'm a bit less thrilled that that the difference between optimal and less then optimally minmaxed races seems to only be getting wider. 
    ShirszaeKiet
  • SynbiosSynbios Posts: 4,556Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Speculation: 4 elements, 4 stats, 4 new races? These guys ARE aligned to earth!
    Stop, human. My metaphysical boner can't take much more of this.

    Tysandr
  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaPosts: 2,377Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Missed opportunity:

    This race has the following trait:
    Terran Will
    - Grants the ability to HUNCH, making it hard to move you (conveys the standing firm
    defence).
    - Rare minerals you consume shall convey their benefits for 10% longer than normal.
    - Your name will automatically append with -tesh/-teshe.


    Discurean Ranger, Ahmetesh Ter'sez (male Tash'la).
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
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  • IctinusIctinus Posts: 175Administrator Admin
    FYI, the "-tesh" suffix is indicative of region, not a universal attachment. 
    "If you build it, they will come."
    ShirszaeZayneUtianima
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna bePosts: 3,370Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Besides, @Ictinus wouldn't want me sounding so much like his precious Builder.
    Huh. Neat.
  • AsmodronAsmodron Posts: 2,495Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Minifie said:


    Speculation: 4 elements, 4 stats, 4 new races? These guys ARE aligned to earth!

    You were almost there!
    Cailin
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