Quick Combat Questions

Lyr

Another combat-esque question: Should I splurge for a ranger's bow? Or just get a collar of Lupus for my mount? Or something else entirely?

Reference skills & artefacts:
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The collar would allow me to actually bring my mount to fights. The bow would give me something line of sight / area, as priest is extremely deficient in that. I could also continue saving up for a Lv3 mace, I suppose.

Achilles

@Lyr

What kind of mount?  You aren't trans riding yet, being able to trample after you beckoned someone into totem would seem like a third of the reason to have a mount for a priest (the other being blocking and flying).  Unless you can trample, I'd just stick to cheap mounts.

Ranger bow good for anyone priest, you can heal insomnia and deafness and shoot people with delph/prefarar in one motion.

Lyr

Golden gryphon.

Garao

Achilles said:

Garao said:

Aren't they both artie rapiers O.o

Yes, so in this case it won't apply.  Also, since Chord is a runie I don't think having average rapier speed of 229 and 234 will make a huge difference.  Paladin's would need the soulpiercers a lot more.

Rapier speed will be 229 and 238, so around 2 seconds dsl speed which is -plenty- fast enough. Rapier damaged of 96 and 100 with a 2s dsl speed is crazy, and definitely worth it. The pre-damage and break damage of your setups will be immense, group damage crazy. Spiercer runie.... oh yes.

Achilles

229 speed avg is 1.9-2s already.  At 235 it might be 1.8.  The extra .1s and 4dmg on his rapiers are not "that" game changing.

Maht

Difference between Eagle/Eagle and Eagle/Soulpiercer should be 0.0729 seconds fully runed (1.9602 -> 1.8873 assuming nimble), not sure how the game rounds it. Possibly "worth it" if you account the other extra stats, but I'd go for something more noticeable.

My vote is for wings; I love wings so much.

vvv @Garao with straight math (not ingame testing so no lag or anything) using a formula that has proven correct for me in the past, with trans weaponry+chivalry and nimble, 238/238 should be 1.8144s - I could be completely wrong! 

Garao

Thought 238/238 was 1.9.

Er, not a very productive comment I know. I'm not suggesting @Chord get the spiercer, like I said earlier it's a matter of personal taste. I would vote Eagle Wings, despite knowing I'd upgrade the spiercer... While knowing I should still get Wings.

Zeon

I'd get the wings.

Also I can't believe I just read a page on suggested artefacts and there weren't any nihilist salespeople trying to sell some Rings of Flying™.

Maht

Zeon said:

I'd get the wings.

Also I can't believe I just read a page on suggested artefacts and there weren't any nihilist salespeople trying to sell some Rings of Flying™.

I promise if you buy one you won't get brokenstarred anymore.

Remember to put me down as your referrer.

Vaehl

If Penwize goes runewarden he'd buy Soulpiercers and customize them as Eagle's Screams.

Xith

Yeah, quick forged-sword question. What do people pay for top-notch rapiers on average?

Achilles

for something with over 240+ speed you'll pay over 100cr for it.  I sold a 66 158 243 for 150 credits 

Cooper

100cr+

Lyr

Bow + marksman trait > collar of Lupus* for me, then?

*Edited for clarity.

Xith

Just tested ring of pestilence. It seemed to only give these afflictions.
Paralysed.
suffering from epilepsy.
unnaturally stupid.
extremely generous.
agoraphobic.
afraid of heights.
shivering.
inspires disloyalty in those nearby.

Anyone have conflicting data? If not, feel free to make note of that.

Iocun

Only one you forgot is amnesia.

Sena

Spin staff is 10% cutting/blunt/magic resistance, flail staff is 15% cutting/blunt/magic resistance. If I remember right, the only unlisted commands are swing and flail.

Lyr

Marksman: worth it for priest?

Zeon

if you have a bow probably. because there aren't too many good minor traits, imo.

Achilles

Lyr said:

Marksman: worth it for priest?

Definitely, you'll have accuracy issues already without aim/snipe.  

Lyr

All right, so switching out mana weaver for marksman seems like a good idea. What about devout? I know it's only 5% more but that adds up over time, and devotion always seems to be lacking. I don't really know of another good minor trait, except maybe glass shatterer.

Achilles

Devout is okay.  But really the extra 2% per hour doesn't really help in all day raiding scenarios, you'll have to hoof it to the tree to immolate to really get back devo.

I'd take mana weaver over devout.  But I'd take one of the resistances (imbued, venomous blood, firetender, icewarden in that order) over mana weaver.

Xith

Iocun said:

Only one you forgot is amnesia.

Yeah, I had a feeling it gave that too, but my test subject obviously couldn't diagnose that one.

Trey

Xith said:

Yeah, quick forged-sword question. What do people pay for top-notch rapiers on average?

I once auctioned a 247 speed for 450cr, mostly because Cooper stuck it out when he knew he was going to be outbid regardless both because he's a bro and wanted to make the other party pay for outbidding him, afaik.

Cooper

LOL. I remember that. Poor Isis got schooled. Shouldn't have messed with me.

Sohl

nevermind

Cooper

It wasn't scamming, though. I bid up until I didn't have the credits to cover my bidding, then stopped.

Mishgul

i paid kui 400cr for a 247 once, because i'd just got paid a lot of money and felt like i could spend anything on anything.

oh how wrong i was

Tirac

I once paid 270 credits to learn forging and then bought a 400 credit forging hammer, and then bought about 200 credits worth of steel, making a bunch of crappy 231s and ending up buying rapiers from other people anyway. Ah, my frivolous youth... oh wait this was me last month.

Manifest

That was me last month, too

Forging is the absolute worst.