I wouldn't say "Absolutely not" but... It depends on your definition of the word 'Christmas Movie'...
In the traditional sense of the definition, no, it's not a Christmas Movie... ...In the sense that it's a movie, that occurs on/around the time of Christmas, then yes it is.
You need to define 'Christmas movie' before you can determine whether Die Hard does or does not fit those criteria.
Is a Christmas movie a movie that explores the values and practises associated with the holiday, ie. 'the meaning of Christmas'?
Die Hard shows us John McClane attempting to reconcile with an estranged family member, his wife, at a party. Circumstances force them to occupy a building together. While others present focus on material wealth, which leads to their downfall, John places a higher value on personal relationships, and this factors into his happy ending.
Is a Christmas movie a movie that takes place at Christmas?
Die Hard takes place over the course of a work Christmas party and its aftermath. The Christmas setting is largely peripheral, with critical but ultimately minor plot relevance, serving as the impetus for the protagonist's presence (attending wife's work party) and villain's plot (building is largely unoccupied due to holiday).
Is a Christmas movie one that you would be willing to watch on Christmas?
Die Hard features smart writing, respectable acting, engaging action, relatable characters, and no overt moralising, making it inoffensive and engaging for audiences of almost all ages and backgrounds. The presence of minor Christmas elements weighs subtly but heavily in its favour here; a movie with no Christmas elements would be less desirable to watch over the Christmas period, regardless of its other merits.
Die Hard does not focus on the spirit, values, or celebration of Christmas, meaning it rates lower in criteria #1 and #2 than more Christmas-centric movies like Jingle All the Way and Elf. However it rates relatively highly overall when all three criteria are taken into account. By rating highly in the crucial criteria #3, it pulls ahead of more Christmas-y but less watchable and, critically, less re-watchable movies like Home Alone 2, Batman Returns, Gremlins, Reindeer Games, and A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas. It goes without saying that for adult audiences it ranks well above the myriad saccharine family-oriented movies like Miracle on 34th Street, A Christmas Story, The Polar Express, Frosty the Snowman (1969 animated), and It's a Wonderful Life.
Elf is an abomination to the world and should be quickly sacrificed and slaughtered, lest we all fall to Oblivion irl.
(I have no opinion of Die Hard - I am among the "not actually seen it" camp.)
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
I think the main things I considered regarding this was the fact that Christmas is not a staple of the plot. The movie can play out easily enough on Thanksgiving, or any day really.
That the story takes place around Christmas, and has some Christmas decorations doesn't make it a Christmas movie. I think it's a really good action movie.
Essentially a man is visiting his wife and daughter, which happens to be during Christmas. The office party is hosted by a Japanese company to, primarily, celebrate the closure of a recent deal. Due to the timing, they essentially decide to merge the celebrations in respect of the location and culture.
Not to mention it was released in July. If you take away the setting of Christmas Eve, it's simply an action film on par with Con Air.
Not only Die Hard, but also Lethal Weapon: What says Christmas better than a coked up prostitute jumping off a balcony to the tune of Jingle Bell Rock?
Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
Christmas movies in my house have been defined by the BBC over the years, they include Jurassic Park, Batteries Not Included, Flight of the Navigator, Ferngully, Muppet Treasure Island, and Bedknobs and Broomsticks (to name a few.)
Nothing featuring Bruce Willis will ever be permitted on my TV at any time of the year.
Not many people know this, but "yippie ki-yay motherfucker" was actually a traditional Christmas greeting long before Roy Rogers misappropriated it in the 1950s. The Lethal Weapon franchise was an attempt to restore Christmas values by instilling new generations with traditional festive language.
In the interests of ensuring that I didn't offer solely my own opinion, I posed this question to my fellow academics over our group lunch today.
The answer we came to after discussion and debate was an unequivocal yes, Die Hard is a Christmas movie.
So there. Academically-assessed.
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
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Bruce Willis and explosions.
In the traditional sense of the definition, no, it's not a Christmas Movie...
...In the sense that it's a movie, that occurs on/around the time of Christmas, then yes it is.
Is a Christmas movie a movie that explores the values and practises associated with the holiday, ie. 'the meaning of Christmas'?
Die Hard shows us John McClane attempting to reconcile with an estranged family member, his wife, at a party. Circumstances force them to occupy a building together. While others present focus on material wealth, which leads to their downfall, John places a higher value on personal relationships, and this factors into his happy ending.
Is a Christmas movie a movie that takes place at Christmas?
Die Hard takes place over the course of a work Christmas party and its aftermath. The Christmas setting is largely peripheral, with critical but ultimately minor plot relevance, serving as the impetus for the protagonist's presence (attending wife's work party) and villain's plot (building is largely unoccupied due to holiday).
Is a Christmas movie one that you would be willing to watch on Christmas?
Die Hard features smart writing, respectable acting, engaging action, relatable characters, and no overt moralising, making it inoffensive and engaging for audiences of almost all ages and backgrounds. The presence of minor Christmas elements weighs subtly but heavily in its favour here; a movie with no Christmas elements would be less desirable to watch over the Christmas period, regardless of its other merits.
Die Hard does not focus on the spirit, values, or celebration of Christmas, meaning it rates lower in criteria #1 and #2 than more Christmas-centric movies like Jingle All the Way and Elf. However it rates relatively highly overall when all three criteria are taken into account. By rating highly in the crucial criteria #3, it pulls ahead of more Christmas-y but less watchable and, critically, less re-watchable movies like Home Alone 2, Batman Returns, Gremlins, Reindeer Games, and A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas. It goes without saying that for adult audiences it ranks well above the myriad saccharine family-oriented movies like Miracle on 34th Street, A Christmas Story, The Polar Express, Frosty the Snowman (1969 animated), and It's a Wonderful Life.
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Nothing beats Elf, though.
(I have no opinion of Die Hard - I am among the "not actually seen it" camp.)
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
That the story takes place around Christmas, and has some Christmas decorations doesn't make it a Christmas movie. I think it's a really good action movie.
Essentially a man is visiting his wife and daughter, which happens to be during Christmas. The office party is hosted by a Japanese company to, primarily, celebrate the closure of a recent deal. Due to the timing, they essentially decide to merge the celebrations in respect of the location and culture.
Not to mention it was released in July. If you take away the setting of Christmas Eve, it's simply an action film on par with Con Air.
Nothing featuring Bruce Willis will ever be permitted on my TV at any time of the year.
Photo circa 2012 of Nicola when finding Die Hard in her house.
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
The answer we came to after discussion and debate was an unequivocal yes, Die Hard is a Christmas movie.
So there. Academically-assessed.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
When Canada rules the world,
things will be... nii~ice.
You may not like Bruce, @Nicola, but you have to at least give Argyle a chance. And of course, Hans Gruber will always have a warm spot in my heart.
I hope so -- this would be an amazing thing.