Disown - Command/Artie?

Ahmet

Cooper said:

Bloodlining one person because they paid me credits to do it when I was desperate for credits is one of the worst decisions I've made while playing Achaea. At least once a week I'm reminded of it, and I'd do just about anything to undo it. 

It's almost like the real thing!

Antidas

Quisse said:

Antidas said:

Rangor said:

There is a problem in that I can bloodline people without a father, without the mothers consent.......

I feel like this is one of those things that makes no sense at all from an RP perspective, and yet needs to remain as it is for the sake of game mechanics. Who you want your text-family to be should, in the end, be up to the newbie who's joining said family. Like Skye said above, people can get charmed into making a potentially bad decision, and allowing a parent to dictate who the other parent can and cannot be essentially removes all decision capabilities from the newbie and forces them to go along with w/e the other parent wants, no matter what that is.

Not to mention a situation where maybe parent1 goes dormant, and now child is unable to ever even have a parent2.

There's just too much power in the parent being able to have the ability to say "no, s/he can't be your parent because I don't agree with it" imo.

I like having the power to decide who Antidas has been boinking in secret. WHO WILL IT BE?

Mycian prostitutes, duh!


@Frederich I specifically said it was -not- good RP. It makes literally zero sense from an IC perspective, so I'm definitely not trying to pretend like it's good RP lol. Your other points are valid, but do me a favor and read what I wrote before getting aggressive in response to something you perceive I said.

Quisse

Antidas said:

Quisse said:

Antidas said:

Rangor said:

There is a problem in that I can bloodline people without a father, without the mothers consent.......

I feel like this is one of those things that makes no sense at all from an RP perspective, and yet needs to remain as it is for the sake of game mechanics. Who you want your text-family to be should, in the end, be up to the newbie who's joining said family. Like Skye said above, people can get charmed into making a potentially bad decision, and allowing a parent to dictate who the other parent can and cannot be essentially removes all decision capabilities from the newbie and forces them to go along with w/e the other parent wants, no matter what that is.

Not to mention a situation where maybe parent1 goes dormant, and now child is unable to ever even have a parent2.

There's just too much power in the parent being able to have the ability to say "no, s/he can't be your parent because I don't agree with it" imo.

I like having the power to decide who Antidas has been boinking in secret. WHO WILL IT BE?

Mycian prostitutes, duh!

That's our story, and I'm sticking to it.

Ahmet

There's a four letter word that makes it good RP, but would make about 20% of Achaea's population really horrible people.

Just saying.

Skye

bloodline show azhrarn <-- this is my great-great-grandfather.

Children
--------
Rinoa           M: Unknown            F: Azhrarn
Kirath          M: Shaja              F: Azhrarn
Khalid          M: Shakti             F: Azhrarn
Yuilie          M: Shaja              F: Azhrarn
Szantharis      M: Unknown            F: Azhrarn
Narses          M: Shaja              F: Azhrarn
Riokai          M: Shaja              F: Azhrarn
Shiromancer     M: Shaja              F: Azhrarn

Grandchildren
---------
Nekojin         M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Laila           M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Alyssandra      M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Horatio         M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Mavado          M: Rinoa              F: Elric
Aragon          M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Zulah           M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Geraint         M: Rinoa              F: Rangor
Floyd           M: Rinoa              F: Khalid
Sarune          M: Rinoa              F: Khalid
Santchual       M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Mylene          M: Rinoa              F: Jack
Wesleyan        M: Floralei           F: Kirath
Ablar           M: Aneila             F: Khalid
Mendax          M: Aneila             F: Khalid
Keelase         M: Trenia             F: Khalid
Wicked          M: Unknown            F: Khalid
Pronto          M: Accipiter          F: Khalid
Rouge           M: Unknown            F: Khalid
Trance          M: Askiva             F: Khalid
Clide           M: Jynne              F: Khalid
Akia            M: Unknown            F: Khalid
Adela           M: Accipiter          F: Khalid
Lurtz           M: Jynne              F: Khalid
Calamiddes      M: Taraus             F: Khalid
Cahir           M: Ariella            F: Khalid
Amarna          M: Kaio               F: Khalid
Stom            M: Taraus             F: Khalid
Aookiji         M: Unknown            F: Khalid
Hrafnir         M: Yuilie             F: Unknown
Linsa           M: Elysium            F: Narses
Mildrith        M: Unknown            F: Narses
Viperda         M: Riokai             F: Darryl
Pandion         M: Riokai             F: Darryl
Mulciber        M: Riokai             F: Darryl

Skye

Great Grandchildren
---------------
Rabthe M: Laila F: Jaemon
Jess M: Laila F: Jaemon
Silo M: Laila F: Jaemon
Jinn M: Laila F: Jaemon
Ravenkiller M: Laila F: Jaemon
Shadowled M: Laila F: Jaemon
Guga M: Laila F: Pronto
Kuniko M: Laila F: Unknown
Tuor M: Laila F: Jaemon
Tealthantos M: Laila F: Jaemon
Papillon M: Laila F: Marcalo
Gaunt M: Laila F: Jaemon
Clotilde M: Laila F: Jaemon
Romanovsky M: Laila F: Degar
Leti M: Laila F: Jaemon
Belmont M: Laila F: Jaemon
Fort M: Laila F: Jaemon
Arthemis M: Laila F: Jaemon
Snareman M: Laila F: Jaemon
Slanter M: Laila F: Degar
Kinnikuman M: Laila F: Jaemon
Destine M: Laila F: Jaemon
Zelton M: Laila F: Unknown
Umfufu M: Laila F: Degar
Anduil M: Laila F: Jaemon
Terrell M: Laila F: Cain
Virlomi M: Laila F: Jaizsur
Trendric M: Laila F: Darkender
Daelok M: Laila F: Erhon
Alyza M: Laila F: Cain
Navara M: Laila F: Unknown
Gawan M: Laila F: Denex
Mako M: Laila F: Denex
Anei M: Laila F: Diavolo
Inei M: Laila F: Diavolo
Bean M: Laila F: Ottis
Apsuthius M: Laila F: Achimenius
Imadis M: Laila F: Unknown
Insanic M: Laila F: Denex
Kowski M: Laila F: Namino
Slaide M: Laila F: Achimenius
Dello M: Alyssandra F: Mendax
Miaea M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Noonan M: Ainia F: Horatio
Lyzander M: Viviane F: Horatio
Whitedragon M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Aridonis M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Skweli M: Apathy F: Horatio
Trevor M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Myranda M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Olesia M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Raeynna M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Ardus M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Leos M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Lira M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Ortanis M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Pete M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Gwynn M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Missi M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Dolpholo M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Edana M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Asscio M: Melony F: Horatio
Turika M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Stiergis M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Haze M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Velveteen M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Doni M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Foxx M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Aggronor M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Krow M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Kagero M: Isis F: Horatio
Sinovia M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Sorumous M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Alisiandra M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Marvi M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Jolee M: Beldaran F: Horatio
Balynne M: Katia F: Zulah
Varim M: Shazara F: Geraint
Malie M: Goldberry F: Geraint
Pikey M: Aeryi F: Geraint
Sergei M: Shazara F: Geraint
Tribal M: Misty F: Geraint
Eluviar M: Shazara F: Geraint
Jodi M: Kyla F: Geraint
Dalkazar M: Ainia F: Geraint
Jakiro M: Skylana F: Geraint
Soltar M: Greyda F: Geraint
Zaldin M: Hira F: Geraint
Mizik M: Misty F: Geraint
Kez M: Misty F: Geraint
Gwendra M: Aelyn F: Geraint
Mogetsu M: Dethea F: Geraint
Demetri M: Alrena F: Geraint
Tahirah M: Sarune F: Unknown
Serendae M: Sarune F: Unknown
Luciano M: Sarune F: Erhon
Poergh M: Sarune F: Hoka
Dro M: Santchual F: Degar
Sorantia M: Larutan F: Mendax
Arielle M: Accipiter F: Mendax
Kiella M: Callianessa F: Mendax
Renaissance M: Dadalyn F: Mendax
Agorio M: Callianessa F: Mendax
Mex M: Oenone F: Mendax
Ataraxius M: Amunet F: Mendax
Fixx M: Unknown F: Mendax
Duske M: Amunet F: Mendax
Macturin M: Keelase F: Unknown
Saindi M: Wicked F: Unknown
Premethius M: Lilliel F: Pronto
Ashia M: Hipsana F: Pronto
Lavantis M: Lilliel F: Pronto
Constancia M: Portia F: Pronto
Chrysanthe M: Portia F: Pronto
Gherchen M: Unknown F: Pronto
Lysea M: Unknown F: Pronto
Laswell M: Unknown F: Pronto
Osael M: Nintailiy F: Trance
Bella M: Musicia F: Trance
Liheon M: Musicia F: Trance
Natseji M: Alakardaiel F: Trance
Hollis M: Nintailiy F: Trance
Lexx M: Akia F: Terrell
Lou M: Amarna F: Unknown
Drillex M: Mildrith F: Unknown
Larah M: Mildrith F: Unknown
Kalika M: Miya F: Viperda <-- mom
Emynui M: Miya F: Viperda
Rife M: Mulciber F: Unknown
Meir M: Mulciber F: Unknown
Kyrra M: Mulciber F: Jhui

When I tried to post this in full it said my post was several thousand characters too large.

Nobody should have a bloodline that looks like this and to make it worse, it even loops around at at least two points because of incest and a person who was once my husband appears as the father of a very distant aunt.

Xaden

Skye said:

When I tried to post this in full it said my post was several thousand characters too large.

Nobody should have a bloodline that looks like this and to make it worse, it even loops around at at least two points because of incest and a person who was once my husband appears as the father of a very distant aunt.

I've seen this kinda circuity ruin characters. It's a bit ridiculous alright.

Krypton

Skye said:

It's not even six degrees of Kevin Bacon anymore, it's more like three degrees of Beldaran.

It's worse than that.

It's three degrees of Hipsana.

Senoske

Xaden said:

Skye said:

When I tried to post this in full it said my post was several thousand characters too large.

Nobody should have a bloodline that looks like this and to make it worse, it even loops around at at least two points because of incest and a person who was once my husband appears as the father of a very distant aunt.

I've seen this kinda circuity ruin characters. It's a bit ridiculous alright.

It's super frustrating. Honestly.

The cross out idea I like. Same with the obscure bloodline. Just ugh, something. I'm just tired of typing more 100x just to get to the bottom of my bloodline.

It's at the point that if I decide to adopt again, I literally tell the person, "Hey, look at my bloodline. You good with that?" Because from an IC standpoint it's embarrassing as hell.

Zahan

The ability to obscure from public view might be nice but I think that ultimately will hurt the new players who get bloodlined and maybe can't see what they're getting into until it's too late.  It seems like a bad idea unless there is a way to see it anyway via some sort of ledger in Delos, which makes it useless - just make them all accessible that way.

As far as disowning, that doesn't make sense.  Sure it sucks you weren't careful even though they told you to be, you shouldn't be able to take your personal frustrations about your personal choices out on other people by kicking them out.  What does make sense, though, is some sort of emancipation - the ability to disassociate yourself from your current bloodline.  Your bloodline description could change to something like, "This person has cast himself from his family line." and then of course, you'd permanently lose the ability to ever mess around in the bloodline system again.  But at least you'd have a clean page to look at.

Really though, just ignore me since I have no horse in this race.  I knew right from the day it launched what a terribad idea bloodlining was and so mine is spotless.

Skye

In Senoske's defence though, I don't think he had any idea that Candace would try to be Ash Ketchum for babies when he bloodlined her.

Cooper

Rexak didn't go Candace mode, but he is the only person who I bloodlined. Now I'm related to something like 70% of Achaea, and it's really stupid.

Ahmet

Cooper said:

Rexak didn't go Candace mode, but he is the only person who I bloodlined. Now I'm related to something like 70% of Achaea, and it's really stupid.

You can blame Gawi for that one.

Achilles

Cooper said:

Bloodlining one person because they paid me credits to do it when I was desperate for credits is one of the worst decisions I've made while playing Achaea. At least once a week I'm reminded of it, and I'd do just about anything to undo it. 

Oh man Achilles old enough to bloodline anyone who is still active.  I should start an auction.

Austere

Achilles said:

Cooper said:

Bloodlining one person because they paid me credits to do it when I was desperate for credits is one of the worst decisions I've made while playing Achaea. At least once a week I'm reminded of it, and I'd do just about anything to undo it. 

Oh man Achilles old enough to bloodline anyone who is still active.  I should start an auction.

Momma? 

Achilles

Austere said:

Achilles said:

Cooper said:

Bloodlining one person because they paid me credits to do it when I was desperate for credits is one of the worst decisions I've made while playing Achaea. At least once a week I'm reminded of it, and I'd do just about anything to undo it. 

Oh man Achilles old enough to bloodline anyone who is still active.  I should start an auction.

Momma? 

Next Angel Auction or whatever we call it in Targ now.  You'll have to bid by proxy.

Ahmet

While we're on the topic of fucked up bloodlines though, BLOODLINE SHOW SAADYA anyone? Totally unacceptable, even if he did pay for that blasted gender swap.

Antidas

Ahmet said:

While we're on the topic of fucked up bloodlines though, BLOODLINE SHOW SAADYA anyone? Totally unacceptable, even if he did pay for that blasted gender swap.

Lmao. Thats just weird, admin really should do something about that imo.

Jonathin

Cooper said:

Rexak didn't go Candace mode, but he is the only person who I bloodlined. Now I'm related to something like 70% of Achaea, and it's really stupid.

Yeah, I hate it, too, gramps.

Krypton

Ahmet said:

While we're on the topic of fucked up bloodlines though, BLOODLINE SHOW SAADYA anyone? Totally unacceptable, even if he did pay for that blasted gender swap.

Why's it unacceptable? Yeah it results from the only coded restriction for bloodlining being two opposite genders, but I don't think it needs to imply anything more than "was the mom, is now the dad".

Ahmet

Krypton said:

Ahmet said:

While we're on the topic of fucked up bloodlines though, BLOODLINE SHOW SAADYA anyone? Totally unacceptable, even if he did pay for that blasted gender swap.

Why's it unacceptable? Yeah it results from the only coded restriction for bloodlining being two opposite genders, but I don't think it needs to imply anything more than "was the mom, is now the dad".

Because biologically speaking, he wasn't the father. Or isn't the mother. Whichever way you define it, s/he is/was only one.

Kyrra

Wait, cousin @Skye?

Skye

You're either a cousin or an aunt. I'm not too clear on the second cousin, third cousin business. 

Siduri

Quisse said:

Antidas said:

Rangor said:

There is a problem in that I can bloodline people without a father, without the mothers consent.......

I feel like this is one of those things that makes no sense at all from an RP perspective, and yet needs to remain as it is for the sake of game mechanics. Who you want your text-family to be should, in the end, be up to the newbie who's joining said family. Like Skye said above, people can get charmed into making a potentially bad decision, and allowing a parent to dictate who the other parent can and cannot be essentially removes all decision capabilities from the newbie and forces them to go along with w/e the other parent wants, no matter what that is.

Not to mention a situation where maybe parent1 goes dormant, and now child is unable to ever even have a parent2.

There's just too much power in the parent being able to have the ability to say "no, s/he can't be your parent because I don't agree with it" imo.

I like having the power to decide who Antidas has been boinking in secret. WHO WILL IT BE?

You know you wanna =3

Anedhel

Siduri said:

Quisse said:

I like having the power to decide who Antidas has been boinking in secret. WHO WILL IT BE?

You know you wanna =3

Pff, just say it was Annie, and when you sell the movie rights to the hawt Aarashi action, we'll split 50/50. Deal?

Aodfionn

get back in your corner, annie. no one said you could come out of the box yet.

Prythe

I was bloodlined before I really knew what it meant, nor was it explained. Was grabbed by a friendly face (whom I adore) and a hubby (whom I do not).

I later was adopted into the family of my heart - the Lenas. 

I was not even aware that "bloodlining" mean they gave birth to me. Was not part of my backstory then, still is not.

This was all back a zillion years ago.

So I guess I have two moms and a grandmother I adore - only one of whom shows on my bloodlining.

I refuse to bloodline because reasons (which should be obvious) but I do have a few children carrying a combination of my surname and that of my spouse's.

Synbios

Ahmet said:

There's a four letter word that makes it good RP, but would make about 20% of Achaea's population really horrible people.

Just saying.

...Wine? Beer? Mead? Vodk(last letter omitted due to being too drunk to continue)?

Prythe

Synbios said:

Ahmet said:

There's a four letter word that makes it good RP, but would make about 20% of Achaea's population really horrible people.

Just saying.

...Wine? Beer? Mead? Vodk(last letter omitted due to being too drunk to continue)?

All of those might be involved, but are still not a justification. 

(Just saying.) 

(Couldn't resist.)

(Come on, it was a tad funny along with some important social commentary!)

Ahmet

Bad jokes are bad.