Starting over (again)

Drauka

I want to play again and have so much real money and time invested in the character, but don't want to drag/explain my past all over again. Also don't really want to do combat stuff (just want to chat, rp, and experience the world created).

Is there a good way to just start over and play the game again, without trying to remember stuff I did years ago? Started on the character in 2004. 

Or should I just roll a new toon and scrap it all? Looking for your creative suggestions.

Ahmet

Retirement is always an option. You recover a certain percentage of your credits/lessons/artefacts for use on a new character.

Drauka

Ahmet said:

Retirement is always an option. You recover a certain percentage of your credits/lessons/artefacts for use on a new character.

oh wow, that is awesome. I didn't know that was a thing.

Kiet

No one's gonna ask you about your past, just make it up or give them the bare basics you remember if it comes up in conversation.

It's really not that hard to come out of inactivity, just log in and start playing and read help files/search the news/forums to catch up.

Korrok

Except that joining an organization, they ask you everything about your past. 

Kiet

Korrok said:

Except that joining an organization, they ask you everything about your past. 

Unless you have like world's worst memory surely you remember at least "I joined X and Y cities and then I was rogue" or whatever. If you don't, just say you don't remember, it was a long time ago ICly too. That's all you really need.

Melodie

The only time people want super-exacting details of your history is if you are a long-term enemy to their city, with many listed crimes (and even then, depends which city), or you're particularly (in)famous enough to be remembered.

That said, do what seems interesting to you. I always find it a shame to waste a character's story just out of uncertainty, but I know a fresh start can be appealing!

Anedhel

There are many ways to recover from not remembering your character's history from 2004. As long as it's not too outlandish, you can make a lot of different things plausible. Maybe your character's been roaming the high seas in search of a mythical monster for the past century and a half. Maybe your character's been the victim of a rather nasty injury that kept him/her sidelined for ages, unable to move, until a mysterious old man gave him a cure in exchange for a mountain of gold. Opportunities are endless, just pick an avenue and roll with it! (Always fun to leap and then look)

Drauka

Thanks everyone. I will probably try to keep the same character then. Apostate is my favorite class.

Drauka

Not even back a couple days, only talked with a few people and "Enemied to: Aurora, Mhaldor, Sartan, and Targossas"  and just got ganked out of the blue... and I just figured out how to use curing on serverside.

Honestly makes me just want to retire and go to another game or quit IRE entirely. It doesn't help with roleplay or immersion or anything, it's like hitting a toddler in the face.

Szanthax

How? I've been defiling Babel for years and still not enemied. 

Why would someone randomly gank you?

Taraus

Drauka said:

Not even back a couple days, only talked with a few people and "Enemied to: Aurora, Mhaldor, Sartan, and Targossas"  and just got ganked out of the blue... and I just figured out how to use curing on serverside.

Honestly makes me just want to retire and go to another game or quit IRE entirely. It doesn't help with roleplay or immersion or anything, it's like hitting a toddler in the face.

Hint: Resorting instantly to OOC tells, without any attempt at in-character dialogue, doesn't really help with roleplay or immersion, either.

You weren't randomly ganked. You randomly quit Mhaldor as an established individual, and thus, you were enemied, and the blood price was sought.

Minifie

Taraus said:

Drauka said:

Not even back a couple days, only talked with a few people and "Enemied to: Aurora, Mhaldor, Sartan, and Targossas"  and just got ganked out of the blue... and I just figured out how to use curing on serverside.

Honestly makes me just want to retire and go to another game or quit IRE entirely. It doesn't help with roleplay or immersion or anything, it's like hitting a toddler in the face.

Hint: Resorting instantly to OOC tells, without any attempt at in-character dialogue, doesn't really help with roleplay or immersion, either.

You weren't randomly ganked. You randomly quit Mhaldor as an established individual, and thus, you were enemied, and the blood price was sought.

This worries me, returning after a long dormancy can be difficult, I started afresh to not deal with any of the difficulty of it, but surely OOC you could at least go "ok recently returned dormant character give him a moment to reget his bearings and then kill him." 

Really we don't need returning characters coming back and, in the state of learning all the changes, to get that initial bitter taste back and quit. 

Kiet

Minifie said:

Taraus said:

Drauka said:

Not even back a couple days, only talked with a few people and "Enemied to: Aurora, Mhaldor, Sartan, and Targossas"  and just got ganked out of the blue... and I just figured out how to use curing on serverside.

Honestly makes me just want to retire and go to another game or quit IRE entirely. It doesn't help with roleplay or immersion or anything, it's like hitting a toddler in the face.

Hint: Resorting instantly to OOC tells, without any attempt at in-character dialogue, doesn't really help with roleplay or immersion, either.

You weren't randomly ganked. You randomly quit Mhaldor as an established individual, and thus, you were enemied, and the blood price was sought.

This worries me, returning after a long dormancy can be difficult, I started afresh to not deal with any of the difficulty of it, but surely OOC you could at least go "ok recently returned dormant character give him a moment to reget his bearings and then kill him." 

Really we don't need returning characters coming back and, in the state of learning all the changes, to get that initial bitter taste back and quit. 

He had like 4 days to get readjusted since he originally lied about being a novice, lol.

Minifie

Kiet said:

Minifie said:

Taraus said:

Drauka said:

Not even back a couple days, only talked with a few people and "Enemied to: Aurora, Mhaldor, Sartan, and Targossas"  and just got ganked out of the blue... and I just figured out how to use curing on serverside.

Honestly makes me just want to retire and go to another game or quit IRE entirely. It doesn't help with roleplay or immersion or anything, it's like hitting a toddler in the face.

Hint: Resorting instantly to OOC tells, without any attempt at in-character dialogue, doesn't really help with roleplay or immersion, either.

You weren't randomly ganked. You randomly quit Mhaldor as an established individual, and thus, you were enemied, and the blood price was sought.

This worries me, returning after a long dormancy can be difficult, I started afresh to not deal with any of the difficulty of it, but surely OOC you could at least go "ok recently returned dormant character give him a moment to reget his bearings and then kill him." 

Really we don't need returning characters coming back and, in the state of learning all the changes, to get that initial bitter taste back and quit. 

He had like 4 days to get readjusted since he originally lied about being a novice, lol.

I've been back for like a month and I still am relearning stuff. 

Szanthax

Minifie said:

Kiet said:

Minifie said:

Taraus said:

Drauka said:

Not even back a couple days, only talked with a few people and "Enemied to: Aurora, Mhaldor, Sartan, and Targossas"  and just got ganked out of the blue... and I just figured out how to use curing on serverside.

Honestly makes me just want to retire and go to another game or quit IRE entirely. It doesn't help with roleplay or immersion or anything, it's like hitting a toddler in the face.

Hint: Resorting instantly to OOC tells, without any attempt at in-character dialogue, doesn't really help with roleplay or immersion, either.

You weren't randomly ganked. You randomly quit Mhaldor as an established individual, and thus, you were enemied, and the blood price was sought.

This worries me, returning after a long dormancy can be difficult, I started afresh to not deal with any of the difficulty of it, but surely OOC you could at least go "ok recently returned dormant character give him a moment to reget his bearings and then kill him." 

Really we don't need returning characters coming back and, in the state of learning all the changes, to get that initial bitter taste back and quit. 

He had like 4 days to get readjusted since he originally lied about being a novice, lol.

I've been back for like a month and I still am relearning stuff. 

Back for over a year(2?) and still relearning stuff...

Szanthax

In addition I think communication could save everyone a lot of grief. 

Jurixe

In all fairness, you've definitely been around long enough to know that if you quit Mhaldor, you die - whether that be via offering yourself for execution or waiting for someone to come after you and kill you. Going through the proper channels would probably have saved you some grief. No idea what the OOC tells were about so not going to comment on that.

Having said that, you probably aren't going to die again for the act of leaving, so you shouldn't have to worry about that any more. Now you can start over wherever you like.

Taraus

Minifie said:

Taraus said:

Drauka said:

Not even back a couple days, only talked with a few people and "Enemied to: Aurora, Mhaldor, Sartan, and Targossas"  and just got ganked out of the blue... and I just figured out how to use curing on serverside.

Honestly makes me just want to retire and go to another game or quit IRE entirely. It doesn't help with roleplay or immersion or anything, it's like hitting a toddler in the face.

Hint: Resorting instantly to OOC tells, without any attempt at in-character dialogue, doesn't really help with roleplay or immersion, either.

You weren't randomly ganked. You randomly quit Mhaldor as an established individual, and thus, you were enemied, and the blood price was sought.

This worries me, returning after a long dormancy can be difficult, I started afresh to not deal with any of the difficulty of it, but surely OOC you could at least go "ok recently returned dormant character give him a moment to reget his bearings and then kill him." 

Really we don't need returning characters coming back and, in the state of learning all the changes, to get that initial bitter taste back and quit. 

You're absolutely right, returning -can- be a huge, sometimes overwhelming task. I've done it myself, after several longer-than-a-RL-year absences. But you also have to make something of an attempt yourself to both try to 1) relearn the game, and 2) re-establish your character.

Lying & misrepresenting situations, and making absolutely no attempt to actually roleplay are things that will make a player's attempt to return to a character more difficult than necessary. And more often than not, it's just as easy to say everything ICly as it is OOCly.

ETA: Essentially, if you want other people to try, you have to try, too.

Drauka

I'm retiring the character. I mean come on. Can make up reasons all you want, but this is BS. It is still a game and you know it. I didn't publicly do anything and kept in-line with my character's RP, and was totally polite and consistent  to everyone in-game. 

It must be a great time when someone leaves Mhaldor, then a gank squad can kill people "for RP reasons". 

Not fun. No thanks. 

I think it is ridiculous that I'm the one at fault when I didn't ICly do anything. This is too much BS for a dang game. Enjoy feeling right in your actions. Never coming back.

Jhui

you know you respawn after you die right?

Szanthax

That's both sad and slightly dramatic.

Take your one death and move on. @austere @Morthif @Jadys got maggoted and hunted by all of taegossas, but they were "major" players in the city...


Quit a city...expect to be killed for it. 

Minifie

Szanthax said:

That's both sad and slightly dramatic.

Take your one death and move on. @austere @Morthif @Jadys got maggoted and hunted by all of taegossas, but they were "major" players in the city...


Quit a city...expect to be killed for it. 

We all react differently to different situations, I've had my fair share of tantrums over what others would consider trivial. Coming back to a game after a long hiatus and getting railroaded would probably get me fired up

Kiet

What squad mate you died one time 1on1 after purposefully lying about your history to Mhaldor.

You had it coming.

Szanthax

Minifie D4 said:

Szanthax said:

That's both sad and slightly dramatic.

Take your one death and move on. @austere @Morthif @Jadys got maggoted and hunted by all of taegossas, but they were "major" players in the city...


Quit a city...expect to be killed for it. 

We all react differently to different situations, I've had my fair share of tantrums over what others would consider trivial. Coming back to a game after a long hiatus and getting railroaded would probably get me fired up

I'll agree with this. I tantrum depending in how drunk I am. Normally I just throw myself into people and die 10 times before I get naked and pass out

Austere

Szanthax said:

That's both sad and slightly dramatic.

Take your one death and move on. @austere @Morthif @Jadys got maggoted and hunted by all of taegossas, but they were "major" players in the city...


Quit a city...expect to be killed for it. 

@Antidas and @Atalkez tried to gank me when stuff first went down.  They missed their shot after about 10 minutes of me trying to figure out how they were tracking me without veils(nerf friends), and that was pretty much the end of it.  I think I dueled Atalkez a few days into it, but I didn't really view it as retribution for quitting the city.  Agreed upon fight.  2 zap kills and a week and a half of missing 1200 cr worth of skills or so(nerf tdf).  No gank deaths. 

Melodie

It should be noted he was not ganked, and he was an older player in Mhaldor, well-aware of Mhaldor's very traditional blood price bit.

It was also only one death. No TDFs, no maggot, no constant hunting, no cursing out in tells. Most of us have no idea who he really is. We went with a (fairly mild) punishment of quitting the city (which he did without speaking to anyone at all), and that ended that. We've no intention of touching him further.

I'm kind of baffled at the reaction. I'm sorry you didn't find Mhaldor to your taste, and that is perfectly acceptable. I don't know what Ysela told you exactly, but I'm sure she didn't say you'd get away scot-free (nobody does). But this isn't, and won't be, a big deal unless you make it one.

If you still feel the need to retire, then perhaps Achaea's conflict system isn't quite for you, and I wish you the best wherever you decide to spend your time.

Szanthax

Austere said:

Szanthax said:

That's both sad and slightly dramatic.

Take your one death and move on. @austere @Morthif @Jadys got maggoted and hunted by all of taegossas, but they were "major" players in the city...


Quit a city...expect to be killed for it. 

@Antidas and @Atalkez tried to gank me when stuff first went down.  They missed their shot after about 10 minutes of me trying to figure out how they were tracking me without veils(nerf friends), and that was pretty much the end of it.  I think I dueled Atalkez a few days into it, but I didn't really view it as retribution for quitting the city.  Agreed upon fight.  2 zap kills and a week and a half of missing 1200 cr worth of skills or so(nerf tdf).  No gank deaths. 

And I feel like the truedf would have had me playing alts until it was over...

Tahquil

Rofl. Everyone should go to the start of the thread and read through the whole thing again.

Minifie

Mhaldor will pay the blood price again when eleusis gets bored, you know the price playing with mhaldor.

Sherazad

Minifie said:

Mhaldor will pay the blood price again when eleusis gets bored, you know the price playing with mhaldor.

Quoting on mobile:
This is almost alway true if you change Mhaldor and Eleusis with other strongly aligned factions,  depending on numbers. 

Tahquil said:

Rofl. Everyone should go to the start of the thread and read through the whole thing again.

To be fair,  @Kiet 's advice would only work if no one remembers you. Apparently, someone did.